Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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I hate how deep he drops when playing for Portugal, it's the same with Ibra and Sweden - once the standard of quality around them drops, they go deep and try to force things on their own but there's nobody up front anymore. Stay where you're supposed to be and have some faith in your teammates, especially Ronaldo who has a very good playmaker in Moutinho behind him. The chances will fall to you eventually.

On another day he could've scored one or two goals and his abysmal overall performance would be overlooked, but it's not the case today.
 
This is true. Real Madrid create more chances for him so he's bound to score which gives people the false illusion he had a great game. But he misses so many chances and takes many shots for Real Madrid too, goals mask his poor performances.

But how many other strikers would score the same amount of goals if the Real Madrid team was built around them? I guess we will see when Real Madrid leavers them..

I can definitely say that not many if any at all will get close to his goalscoring ratios.
 
Very selfish player

No denying how good he is but never been a fan of his game.
 
His contribution is next to nothing when doesn't score. Valid criticism IMO.
Hardly. Did you not see the cross to Nani? Should have been put away. That would have gone down as an assist to Ronaldo. And you're forgetting that he had a bunch of assists for Madrid this season.

This whole "Ronaldo is only a goalscorer" argument is the worst.
 
I hate how deep he drops when playing for Portugal, it's the same with Ibra and Sweden - once the standard of quality around them drops, they go deep and try to force things on their own but there's nobody up front anymore. Stay where you're supposed to be and have some faith in your teammates, especially Ronaldo who has a very good playmaker in Moutinho behind him. The chances will fall to you eventually.

On another day he could've scored one or two goals and his abysmal overall performance would be overlooked, but it's not the case today.

I disagree. I think in theory players as good as Zlatan and Cristiano should be dropping deep if their team are struggling. The criticism I'd have is that Cristiano's all round game has regressed so much he ends up fecking up attacks when he does it.

You can't afford a poacher if you're not an elite side though, something has to give.
 
Hardly. Did you not see the cross to Nani? Should have been put away. That would have gone down as an assist to Ronaldo. And you're forgetting that he had a bunch of assists for Madrid this season.

This whole "Ronaldo is only a goalscorer" argument is the worst.
The only chance he created all game.

His assist numbers are there, but hardly impressive if you break them down. It's often him passing the ball to an open man during counters.
 
I hate how deep he drops when playing for Portugal, it's the same with Ibra and Sweden - once the standard of quality around them drops, they go deep and try to force things on their own but there's nobody up front anymore. Stay where you're supposed to be and have some faith in your teammates, especially Ronaldo who has a very good playmaker in Moutinho behind him. The chances will fall to you eventually.

On another day he could've scored one or two goals and his abysmal overall performance would be overlooked, but it's not the case today.
Thoroughly disagree with this post. Zlatan drops deep out of necessity, Cristiano on the other hand hasn't played out his comfort zone for years because he has a great team around him. Only Nani had less touches according to Whoscored
 
He really needs to stop taking free kicks. He was once 3 for his last 100, though he scored one through the Wolfsburg wall since then. Surely is around 4 for his last 115 or so. I feel like I rarely see that dip and swerve he used to be able to create so often. He was never a Juninho or Beckham, but he surely has massively regressed in this particular area (which is only exacerbated by the fact he takes so many).
 
He's really not great when he isn't scoring and Madrid isn't feeding every single attack to him.
 
It amazes me how ruthlessly honest the cafe can be. This is a player who graced OT and fans worshiped the ground he walked on, even in his early days as a footballer yet he will still be questioned.

I agree with the posts on here about him struggling when playing against great teams or playing with the international team who are far inferior but doesn't every player struggle with these shortcomings in a team game?

The guy is absolute class dispute his mega ego which nobody likes ,agreed. But don't all top sportsmen/top actors have this?

Someone said he's a highlights player and I agree with that too but jeez his highlights are great to watch.

Thumbs up to the constructive criticism, it makes for great reading.:angel:
 
If you hit that many freekicks, and score that little , the ones that go in just seem like a fluke , especially when he rarely gets it over the wall or even on target .

Give me 120 half court attempts on a basketball court . I reckon I could get 3 or 4 in and every one would be a fluke .

How a teammate hasn't told him to feck off from free kicks is beyond me
 
He's really not great when he isn't scoring and Madrid isn't feeding every single attack to him.

So basically like any other great goal scorer. This is what baffles me when people call him the best in the world when he simply isn't. I repeat, put any great #9 in Madrid or Barcelona they would post similar numbers, especially if they were taking as many shots as CR does every game. he has been taking the most shots in Europe now in the top leagues for almost a decade. His actual effeciency isn't great.

RvN would score 70+ in Madrid if he were the main #9. Ronaldo has the EPL hype machine and Nike adverts on his side. Look at the Nike advert for the Euros were CR is dribbling through teams by himself. Never happens in real life and he gets dispossessed very easily when he doesn't have space to kick the ball in front of him. He is not a very good dribbler and in Madrid, Modric, Hames, Isco, Lucas Vasquez, Benzema and Marcelo are all better at carrying the ball forward. He might look flashy but there is very little effectiveness. Iniesta, Xavi and Messi are above him in this era and I would say Suarez is a better footballer than him as well.

He gets to do what he wants because he is bigger than Madrid essentially. Like Messi does what he wants at Barcelona. It is because of the star power they have had, the difference is Messi affects almost all phases of play and can be the motm playing 40 m away from goal and not taking a single shot and makes others look better. Ronaldo needs others to make him be effective.
 


:lol:

Such a tosser!

Then again, I guess that sore loser mentality has helped spur him on throughout the years.
 
I disagree. I think in theory players as good as Zlatan and Cristiano should be dropping deep if their team are struggling. The criticism I'd have is that Cristiano's all round game has regressed so much he ends up fecking up attacks when he does it.

You can't afford a poacher if you're not an elite side though, something has to give.
Portugal is an elite side imo. When you have players like Nani, Moutinho, Joao Mario and Andre Gomes/Quaresma around you, they create plenty of opportunities if you are where you're supposed to be (and he did have those chances today as well). Ronaldo isn't Messi, if he drops deep he just passes it backwards or sideways again instead of trying to beat one or two opponents because I don't think he can do that anymore (at least consistently). I get that he's trying to force things and wants to get involved as much as possible but just don't think it's that necessary in that team. Granted it's not Kroos and Modric he's playing with but still plenty of quality around him to say up front and wait for his chances.

You might be right about Zlatan, but it frustrated me a lot yesterday. He had very few options when he dropped deep and was facing towards the goal, and he doesn't have that explosive acceleration either to make things happen. He does most of his damage when he's in or around the box. Sweden is a painfully average side but and he's still better than any other player if he tries to distribute the game but it takes all of their threat in front of goal away. He can't be in two places at once, of course.
 
Portugal is an elite side imo. When you have players like Nani, Moutinho, Joao Mario and Andre Gomes/Quaresma around you, they create plenty of opportunities if you are where you're supposed to be (and he did have those chances today as well). Ronaldo isn't Messi, if he drops deep he just passes it backwards or sideways again instead of trying to beat one or two opponents because I don't think he can do that anymore (at least consistently). I get that he's trying to force things and wants to get involved as much as possible but just don't think it's that necessary in that team. Granted it's not Kroos and Modric he's playing with but still plenty of quality around him to say up front and wait for his chances.

You might be right about Zlatan, but it frustrated me a lot yesterday. He had very few options when he dropped deep and was facing towards the goal, and he doesn't have that explosive acceleration either to make things happen. He does most of his damage when he's in or around the box. Sweden is a painfully average side but and he's still better than any other player if he tries to distribute the game but it takes all of their threat in front of goal away. He can't be in two places at once, of course.


Zlatan is essentially a bigger Messi in terms of his style. He drops deep to facilitate play and is pretty much a false #9. He isn't a CF or a #9 as he can't play with his back ot goal, is pretty poor in the air despite his size and doesn't have the mobility nor the ability to break lines with his dribbling. That is the reason he flops in pretty much every top side he faces. Messi as a false #9 could dribble his way through blocks and had Pedro and Villa creating space for him so he could do his diagonal runs when the defence was being split by Pedro and Villa. At PSG, he couldn't drive the ball forward and ended up getting pocketed by almost every CB he faces at an elite level Rio and Vidic in 09, Samuel and Lucio in 10, Did nothing against Pique and Puyol.Mascherano, flopped against BBC (Bonnuci, Barzagli, Bonnuci), Flopped against Chelsea 4 games in a row (Cahill and Terry), Flopped against Ramos and Varane etc He tries battling them as a #9 but just gets destroyed as he can't turn them like Eto'O and Suarez.

Blanc misuses him to be fair. He should be playing off Cavani but they need a 3 man MF to build up their play so it's a catch 22 with Ibra. At Juve he was effective off Del Piero and Trezeguet and at Inter off Crespo iirc.
 


:lol:

Such a tosser!

Then again, I guess that sore loser mentality has helped spur him on throughout the years.


Unfortunate he reacts like that, doesn't do him any justice, what did he expect, of course Iceland are going to be happy with a draw against Portugal, they have a population of around 10.5 million, Iceland is around 320 thousand. To them it is a big deal, they know there is little chance of winning anything, but as it is ther first ever time in a major football competition, they are out to do the best they can, and have a great time, in Reykjavik tonight they are celebrating, but taking the pi** out of themselves for celebrating like they won the cup, Well done Iceland, shame they didn't follow Ronaldo's script and just roll over and let him have his own way.
 
Don't you love it when a star player in a team full of top players is angry that another small team full of unknowns had the nerve to defend for their lives to salvage a point? i mean how dare they not give ronaldo enough space to do something useful. Shame on them.
 
That's right. He lead them against an awful side that Lewandowski put 5 past off the bench.
So what? Wolfsburg beat Bayern in the season opener SuperCup
Atletico Madrid lost to a relagation side that put them out of the cup
Dortmund got cooked by Liverpool to put them out of Europa League
Shit Happens in football man and nothing is ever constant and one would be a fool to think so. The fact was that Madrid were down 0-2 and the stakes were high if they wanted to progress on to inevitably win the cup. Ronaldo was a major factor in overturning the aggregate and they did it. Second of all, who cares if he didn't do that for them before the playoffs? What matters is that he helped his team qualify...after that was the end result?

I agree that Ronaldo has not performed that well against bigger clubs, but I completely disagree with the idea that he is a" passenger" Ronaldo is getting the chances and working hard to put himself into good positions to score but he just lets himself down.
 
Just very slightly on the downslope, probably last tournament?

Under pressure I'd say.

We were lucky to see him at Utd, unplayable for 2 seasons, the 3-1 at Arsenal, the Rooney goal vs Bolton was it? Best attacking header of the ball in the League?

Shame it might be the ego that get's remembered, it shouldn't be really. I know it was only the EPL but the entire League was terrified of him.
 
So what? Wolfsburg beat Bayern in the season opener SuperCup
Atletico Madrid lost to a relagation side that put them out of the cup
Dortmund got cooked by Liverpool to put them out of Europa League
Shit Happens in football man and nothing is ever constant and one would be a fool to think so. The fact was that Madrid were down 0-2 and the stakes were high if they wanted to progress on to inevitably win the cup. Ronaldo was a major factor in overturning the aggregate and they did it. Second of all, who cares if he didn't do that for them before the playoffs? What matters is that he helped his team qualify...after that was the end result?

I agree that Ronaldo has not performed that well against bigger clubs, but I completely disagree with the idea that he is a" passenger" Ronaldo is getting the chances and working hard to put himself into good positions to score but he just lets himself down.

Yes, but they were awful in the moment Madrid played them. Again the level of the team wasn't very high. Madrid just underperformed. CR has never dominated a top team like Messi did against City last year where he was a constant threat for almost the whole game, or Xavi dominating Madrid for like 3 years and every mf for 4 straight years, or Iniesta dominating finals consistently throughout his career. CR is a goal scorer and it just baffles me he is called the 'best footballer' when he clearly isn't. What is he doing now atm that RVN wouldn't be able to do? Yet noone would call RvN the best in the world. He gest into scoring positions because he feels that is the only way to help the team and to feed his ego. Can you imagine him giving up a penalty to his teammate? As I said, great goal scorer, nowhere near being the best footballer on the planet. He has been a tap in merchant for the last 3/4 seasons. Suarez in his first full season in a super team almost beat his highest GS record. His overall play is below par which is why I am baffled when people compare him to Messi or even Maradona.
 
Guys I agree that he had a really poor game in regards to his finishing an that he did not handle himself well in the post game interview, but lets not go overboard to assume that if you through any striker into Madrid's position that they would automatically score 60 goals a season like Ronaldo would. Bit of a Knee Jerk reaction no?
 
and I would say Suarez is a better footballer than him as well
The only worthy response to this is a ":lol:". You can make a case for Xavi and Iniesta being more important for the last decade, even if most will disagree, but what has Suarez done to even justify the comparison? Outscored Ronaldo in the league in one season (while Ronaldo scored more in CL)? If you're limiting Ronaldo to a simple goalscorer, you should also note that Suarez, if you take away the goals (which is pointless though), often looks very clumsy and frustrating - and there is a gap in footballing ability even between him and Neymar, nevermind Messi, who is the only player regularly outperforming Ronaldo.
 
The only worthy response to this is a ":lol:". You can make a case for Xavi and Iniesta being more important for the last decade, even if most will disagree, but what has Suarez done to even justify the comparison? Outscored Ronaldo in the league in one season (while Ronaldo scored more in CL)? If you're limiting Ronaldo to a simple goalscorer, you should also note that Suarez, if you take away the goals (which is pointless though), often looks very clumsy and frustrating - and there is a gap in footballing ability even between him and Neymar, nevermind Messi, who is the only player regularly outperforming Ronaldo.

Suarez outperfromed CR since his final season at Liverpool and was doing more than just getting on the end of team moves and was a constant threat. Suarez outperfromed Neymar this season and last season. Last season, he scored the winner against Madrid that essentially sealsed the title, scored the CL winner, destroyed City away, battered Madrid away in the 4-0 win, was the only attacker that turned up in the Atletico ties, Was the player of the torunament in CwC. He simply has made Barcelona better because he does more for the team bar just scoring which I can't say about CR. He constantly harries the defence and runs even till the last minute like his family are at gun point, he actually runs to open up space for his team which CR is incapable of doing as he has shown multiple timers since his united time when he was placed as a #9. He is better at holding up the ball and turning defenders which is what ELite #9s can do such as Eto'O, R9, MvB etc could do. I would rather have Suarez in my team than CR. Suarez scored ore despite taking fewer shots.

What good team did CR score against in the cl? He flopped against PSGx2, City and Atletico, teams that Suarez put to the sword when they were in better form as well. Suarez is more capable of scoring out of nothing as we saw against City, Madrid, his bicycle kicks, his volleys. CR has never scored a bicycle kick despite trying multiple times to. Suarez is a better passer and he looks clumsy because he is always trying to shifty the ball forward with his 1st touch so there is higher room for error.

Guys I agree that he had a really poor game in regards to his finishing an that he did not handle himself well in the post game interview, but lets not go overboard to assume that if you through any striker into Madrid's position that they would automatically score 60 goals a season like Ronaldo would. Bit of a Knee Jerk reaction no?

Any ELITE striker nd make them the focal point then yes they would get the same numbers. My point being he is a great goal scorer. His overall performance is below par which is why he can't be the best 'footballer', or some claiming he is the best ever. If goal scoring was the metirc for greateness, Gerd Muller would be #1 as he simply turned up in big games and scored the most important goals, but noone in their right mind would say he is a top 5 player but I hear this being spouted when CR is being talked about.
 
Yes, but they were awful in the moment Madrid played them.
Who cares?
Nothing is ever constant in football and Wolfsburg should have been filled with confidence going into this game. He still one.
CR has never dominated a top team
Lies. In a season where did subpar against the top teams he did pretty damn well against Barcelona in the 2nd El Classico..or are they a small team or a team in poor form?
CR is a goal scorer and it just baffles me he is called the 'best footballer' when he clearly isn't.
He is unable to create chances for his team?
Capable of taking his players on when it is neccessary?
Being a constant threat to the opposition whenever he is on the ball?
 
It amazes me how ruthlessly honest the cafe can be. This is a player who graced OT and fans worshiped the ground he walked on, even in his early days as a footballer yet he will still be questioned.

I agree with the posts on here about him struggling when playing against great teams or playing with the international team who are far inferior but doesn't every player struggle with these shortcomings in a team game?

The guy is absolute class dispute his mega ego which nobody likes ,agreed. But don't all top sportsmen/top actors have this?

Someone said he's a highlights player and I agree with that too but jeez his highlights are great to watch.

Thumbs up to the constructive criticism, it makes for great reading.:angel:
I think the criticism around here stems from the fact that he really isn't the same player as he was for us. He used to dominate games to a remarkable extent; for all his talents, he doesn't really do that anymore, and it's sad to see. I sort of get the impression that Ronaldo thinks he needs to score to have a good game, but some of the best players in the world have proved that is not the case.
 
Suarez outperfromed CR since his final season at Liverpool and was doing more than just getting on the end of team moves and was a constant threat. Suarez outperfromed Neymar this season and last season. Last season, he scored the winner against Madrid that essentially sealsed the title, scored the CL winner, destroyed City away, battered Madrid away in the 4-0 win, was the only attacker that turned up in the Atletico ties, Was the player of the torunament in CwC. He simply has made Barcelona better because he does more for the team bar just scoring which I can't say about CR. He constantly harries the defence and runs even till the last minute like his family are at gun point, he actually runs to open up space for his team which CR is incapable of doing as he has shown multiple timers since his united time when he was placed as a #9. He is better at holding up the ball and turning defenders which is what ELite #9s can do such as Eto'O, R9, MvB etc could do. I would rather have Suarez in my team than CR. Suarez scored ore despite taking fewer shots.

What good team did CR score against in the cl? He flopped against PSGx2, City and Atletico, teams that Suarez put to the sword when they were in better form as well. Suarez is more capable of scoring out of nothing as we saw against City, Madrid, his bicycle kicks, his volleys. CR has never scored a bicycle kick despite trying multiple times to. Suarez is a better passer and he looks clumsy because he is always trying to shifty the ball forward with his 1st touch so there is higher room for error.



Any ELITE striker nd make them the focal point then yes they would get the same numbers. My point being he is a great goal scorer. His overall performance is below par which is why he can't be the best 'footballer', or some claiming he is the best ever. If goal scoring was the metirc for greateness, Gerd Muller would be #1 as he simply turned up in big games and scored the most important goals, but noone in their right mind would say he is a top 5 player but I hear this being spouted when CR is being talked about.
Elite?
I highly doubt it. Ronaldo has such a vast amount of passion, intelligence, and hunger to get in on goal or put his teammates in on goal. I can't think of one player in todays game who possesses such hunger and a mentality like he does as a forward. Not 1. People who think poaching is as easy as tapping a ball in don't really understand the game and what goes into it.

Second off all, for a team that is so "focused" on Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema sure are producing a lot of goals.
 
Who cares?
Nothing is ever constant in football and Wolfsburg should have been filled with confidence going into this game. He still one.

Lies. In a season where did subpar against the top teams he did pretty damn well against Barcelona in the 2nd El Classico..or are they a small team or a team in poor form?

He is unable to create chances for his team?
Capable of taking his players on when it is neccessary?
Being a constant threat to the opposition whenever he is on the ball?

Dominated Barcelona? How exactly? He did nothing specatacular bar scoring that header. That was it and yes they were in poor form. Griezmann hammered them, Sociedad beat them, etc We have different definitions of domination. CR stays on the edge to score. That's it. He can be anonymous for 90s minutes.

Is he consistent threat? Nope he is not, he literally can't dribble except there is a massive gap between him and the defdnder or when hei s close to the panalty box. When he drops deep he rarely can dribble more than one player. He is certainly not a constant threat, except we are talking about Espanyol or Malmo. He was anonymous in Every single big teams they faced this season as I said earlier. He was handled pretty well because he isn't a good dribbler and hasn't been one for years. And by chances like Messi does from deep? Nope. He can cross the ball into the box like any decent footballer and pass for a teammate to score when Madrid break but he rarely if ever unlocks teams with passes. He is just not capapbel and has not shown that as part of his game.
 
Elite?
I highly doubt it. Ronaldo has such a vast amount of passion, intelligence, and hunger to get in on goal or put his teammates in on goal. I can't think of one player in todays game who possesses such hunger and a mentality like he does as a forward. Not 1. People who think poaching is as easy as tapping a ball in don't really understand the game and what goes into it.

Second off all, for a team that is so "focused" on Ronaldo, Bale and Benzema sure are producing a lot of goals.

Yes, that hunger leads him to shooting when his teammates are better placed and having tyhe most shots per game since OPTA started collating stats. He is a volume shooter that cares only about goals. The CL finals summed him up. He did absolutely nothing but got the headlines in both games and that would be how he will be remmebered despite being subpar in both games.

Yea, because Madrid create a lot of chances. Ronaldo takes almost 10 shots per game. Bale has shown he can score against scrubs when CR was out and he was carrting the team and was once again Madrids best player in another final while CR was anonymous. Madrid and Barcelona are super teams. MAdrid have like 6 facilitators in Benzema, Kroos, Modric, Hames, Marcelo and Isco.

My point is that CR has shown no more than RvN in his last 4 seasons when Ruud was at his peak. Yet noone called him the 'best' player because he wasn't. I just find it fascinating that people think CR is the best 'football player' when he clearly sin't. As I said in an earlier post, Ronaldos season is basically from game to game, he scored but he did nothing else, the commentators keep repeating he hasn't been great but he scored, then by the end of the seasonj he has 50+ and people forget his ACTUAL PERFORMANCES and go, wow look at is stats, he must be the best. That is my only gripe.
 
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The best Cristiano Ronaldo with Portugal was in 2004 :drool:... and he had the luck to play with Figo, Deco, Maniche.
 
Dominated Barcelona? How exactly? He did nothing specatacular bar scoring that header. That was it and yes they were in poor form. Griezmann hammered them, Sociedad beat them, etc We have different definitions of domination. CR stays on the edge to score. That's it. He can be anonymous for 90s minutes.
Did you watch the game?
Skipped past whoever was marking him at least 3 times
and he was constantly making darting runs and putting the defense under pressure. One moment you see him below the circle, next moment he is in the box he was a threat the entire game and you can't ignore it. If you are too blind to see that then no point in pursuing this any further. (PS last time I checked Socidad was fecking team, but nice try with your Ronaldo Hate)

First off as a forward to be a threat is to be someone who will threaten a goal. Whether you are making a deep intelligent runs, or coming back deep to take the pressure from his teammates, or setting up a teammate by creating a chance in the final third, all of these classify as being a threat, and in every single game Ronaldo has played he has always done that, whether or not that threat escalates into a successful attack is up to him, but there are very few games where he has failed in that aspect IMO. Being a threat doesn't always mean scoring or assisting goals(otherwise through this newly discovered thing called common sense a threat) or dropping deep and making really good dribbling runs or looking for a scholes pass etc...One may not be as aesthetically pleasing as the other but they still qualify as a threat in respect to the forward role of a team. Football Basics 101.

Also it is a little bit unfair to hold the Barcelona greats and Ronaldo together without considering the fact that the style of play of both teams are quite drastically different as one side likes to dominate possession and one side is more inclined to react on the counter. Less possesion= Less opportunities for him to impact the game offensively.
 


Remember absolutely loving him for this . Now , I watch it and think what a fecking bellend
 
He did absolutely nothing but got the headlines in both games and that would be how he will be remmebered despite being subpar in both games.
-I remember the pass he had to Benzema to initiate the transition offense, that was consequently followed by a deep cutting run to free himself in the box only for Benzema to shoot and succumb to the pressure of oncoming defenders instead of passing to a free Ronaldo.
-I remember Ronaldo skipping past Juanfran and putting in a pass to Isco only for the other Real Madrid player to squander it.
-He was also a very serviceable option on the counter too it was just his poor finishing and decision making that got the better of him. He was below standard yes, but I would like to remember the key moments he also had that helped his team.

Where do you get your statistics from? Messi.net? Ronaldo takes 10 shots per game? Nice try. Per 90 minutes(according to whoscored) he averages 6.4 shots a game and doesn't even lead his team in La Liga. In addition, I was not aware that Ronaldo can't facilitate. He leads his team in assists, and we can clearly see him in games also contributing his own created chances. The thought of Ronaldo solely being a poacher who magically ends up with 60 goals per season is quite extreme, even if his game will have to resort to that more and more as a gets older--a very logical thing to do unless one is silly enough to think he can escape the laws of human nature.
 
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Remember absolutely loving him for this . Now , I watch it and think what a fecking bellend


You're doing what I'd call a "reverse Mourinho." :lol:

I don't pretend to watch Real Madrid game or Ronaldo post 2008 but on the rare occasions that I do see him play, I can't help but wonder that he was a more exciting player to watch when he was playing with us.
 


:lol:

Such a tosser!

Then again, I guess that sore loser mentality has helped spur him on throughout the years.

:lol: He really goes on about this point. Come off it, Ronnie.

Iceland has a population of 330,000. What else are they supposed to do against a traditionally strong footballing nation in the opening game? Come out and be slaughtered?

Surely it's just his ultra-competitive spirit purring emotion before logic. If he said that at a more level headed moment, I would would write him off as a stupid fool.
 
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