Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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ObelOitment Fungentula said:
You still believe that Jose's post-match bad loser comments were really an attempt to take all the bad press on himself instead of the squad?

I never thought that the case, and surely last seasons meltdown showed to all that he really isn't that calculated and detached.

Sometimes, elite sportsmen and managers just are bad losers - it goes with the territory.
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Of course it is, everyone has caught on to that since his debut season. It's win-win for him and the press. They get more clicks/sell more papers because the mindless masses lap it up and the Chelsea players escape criticism for the most part. You can be a sore loser and take the press heat. There can also be heat to take after a win so it's not all about losing. On the other hand when his teams win he also gets a lot of of the praise and his positive words about his players will blow like the wind through the media's ear as the focus will inevidibly always come back to him.

Some of the Portuguese players were visibly nervous on the pitch and they failed to beat a tiny nation but now all the press is on Ronaldo who feeds of this kind of criticism and little is said about Portugal's performance. It would be a new one for Ronaldo but it's something he's done before. Calculated? Don't think so but it wouldn't surprise me.
 
How long do you reckon Ronnie will play international football for while playing so many games for Real Madrid each season? don't forget he debuted playing non-stop football at 17 years of old, it is a miracle he hasn't burnt out ala Micky Owen. TBF he has been VERY lucky with seriously injuries.. not once as he had an injury which has meant he missed a major international tournament. Yeah he trains hard etc but serious injuries have nothing to do with that.

Surely this or the World Cup in Russia 2018 is his last international tournament. But I reckon he has that arrogant to think he can play in the infamous Qatar 2022 too he even admitted himself he wants to. Surely he can't play at such a high level for Real Madrid until then aswell!?
 
His comments about Iceland were poor. He is a very bad loser and is never gracious in defeat, or when his team does not get the result that they wanted.
 
The lack of a childhood has really fecked with this man's head. He really doesn't make it easy for himself, does he?
 
Borys said:
Terrible captain IMO. Judging by his performance and comments after the game.
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Absolutely. A captain is supposed to lead by example. Behaving like a self-serving, egotistical, disrespectful, and all-round pathetic individual is not an example that is going to encourage the right mentality within a team.

Whilst undoubtedly one of the most talented footballers of our generation, it's very difficult to like the man. One thing that will always stand out for me is the time Real Madrid scored and the camera cut to Ronaldo. Instead of celebrating with the team he was throwing a tantrum because he thought the ball should have been played to him so he could have scored.

Everything always has to be about him. If the team isn't playing well he never offers encouragement or motivation. If he isn't playing well he constantly sulks and whines. That's not what you want from a captain.
 
Seems to be being bullied a bit, turning into everyone's whipping boy. Him and Clive Tyldesly. Don't see this level of invection aimed at Russian Ultras. And those guys really pout.
 
Obiorahking_ said:
I think you are underestimating what he does for his team mainly because it doesn't involve him on ball goal scoring threats, such as coming back to dribble out of tight spaces to unlock the defense, or making a sexy lob/ through pass, etc.. They are all great and electric types of moments to watch but why are these more of a threat than constantly, and I mean constantly making runs and finding space in between the defense, or dropping deeper to bring out the CBs, or initiating give and goes to lose his marker and set himself free? Though the latter might be a little more individualistic, I believe these are threats that Ronaldo displays every single game at an uber elite rate that is rarely other matched by other elite forwards. Just because ones playing style is completely different than the others doesn't mean that that one is better than them.(I agree Messi is better than Ronaldo)

Although Ronaldo didn't really showcase this as much against bigger teams this season, Ronaldo has also proven to be a facilitator for his team throughout the season. He has proven to be a crafty passer in the final third to set his teammates up for goal, No?
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Except he is pretty awful at dribbling in tight spaces and gets crowded out almost all the time, sexy through pass? Almost all his assists are square passes. He rarely makes any pass I would consider difficult. He is a great crosser of the ball though. He doesn't constanly make runs, that is just false. He only makes runs when he thinks he will score. That is why I said his general off the ball movement is awful. He doesn't run to create space and open up the pitch for his team like Suarez done. Suarez has one of the best off the ball movments I have ever seen. Only MvB is comparable. Cbs never follow him because they have Benzema to look after and in fact Benzema is the one that let's CR run late into the box and uses his movement to split the Cbs. He doesn't really do gove and goes like Messi. He gets the ball and then runs into space. When he dribbles if he has not space to kick and rush, he is dispossessed almost all the time.

Dribbling is one of the most important attributes in football and it's no surprise that Maradona, Pele, Cruijff etc where all all time dribblers, especially in very tight spaces. Messi's dribbling creates numerical superiority and his passing is on a different level to CRs, especially his final ball which is the best in Europe along with Ozils atm. He is involved in multiple phases of play and can simply do things CR cannot do. The problem here is that people are merging CR at United with CR at Madrid and think he is some supreme dribbler still. I blame all the Nike adverts and FIFA games for propagating that particular myth. It's on par with Zidane carrying France to the WC in 98.
 
If you play to his strength's and give him chances he will bang the goals in. In the tight matches where his team are not so dominant is where the problems with Ronaldo are. He's a passenger in those types of games unless given chances,

Against Barcelona this season he was a different player I have to say. I dont understand why he cant make things happen more often like in that match.

He can be a good team player when he wants to but he hardly does it.
 
Vialli_92 said:
If you play to his strength's and give him chances he will bang the goals in. In the tight matches where his team are not so dominant is where the problems with Ronaldo are. He's a passenger in those types of games unless given chances,

Against Barcelona this season he was a different player I have to say. I dont understand why he cant make things happen more often like in that match.

He can be a good team player when he wants to but he hardly does it.
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So basically like any top Goal scorer then? As I said before, put RVN or any top player in Madrid and make them the 1 goal scorers they would score as much as CR if not more.
 
totaalvoetbal said:
So basically like any top Goal scorer then? As I said before, put RVN or any top player in Madrid and make them the 1 goal scorers they would score as much as CR if not more.
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Well there is nothing special about scoring goals like he does. Gerd Muller was doing it long before Ronaldo started doing it. There is this upsession with scoring goals the only thing counting between having a good and bad game these days.
 
He's the worst dribbler in football. His movements are so robotic & transparent. When it comes to general play he isn't anywhere near the Top 10.
 
Would be interesting to see how many goals Rooney would score if played instead of Ronaldo for current Real Madrid team. Sorry to say that because I always liked him but for me he is very overrated player ATM.
 
did i just hear that right....36 attempts from a free kick and still no goal...that technique of his (and Kane who tried to copy it) doesn't appear as great as it was. Bring back the old Baggio / Beckham / Del Piero curlers!!!!
 
Sad thing about Portugal is they've been impressive in both games but have been let down by Ronaldo.
 
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did i just hear that right....36 attempts from a free kick and still no goal...that technique of his (and Kane who tried to copy it) doesn't appear as great as it was. Bring back the old Baggio / Beckham / Del Piero curlers!!!!
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That technique is just a good old fashioned toe poke I reckon. When I was at school if you toe poked the thing you were regarded as a non footballing twat. But yeh it doesn't seem to work anymore.

You can't beat a top corner curler. NOT ARF.
 
He's doing alright this match. Needs to stop with his FK technique, it's a proven and failed technique.
 
If he wasn't fouled he would have probably scored from the chance that would have been there for him.
 
I've seen this type of game on Football Manager, where it seems scripted that the most clear cut chance of all time will still end up as a miss.
 
He looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders when he stepped up, bickering with the ref. Strange.
 
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