It is always said about Ronaldo he improved leaps and bounds as soon as he realised he didn't need to prove himself and he didn't need to do it all by himself, really seems like he has forgot at this tournament, all he does is shoot, just constant shooting regardless of what his team mates positions are or the likelihood of him scoring. This may be his final tournament as one of the top couple of players in the world though so I understand his desperation.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)
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I feel bad for him now.
Dont!
To be fair he doesn't have the team around him to constantly create chances for him, so he's trying to do it all himself. If he doesn't do that then he's virtually anonymous. He's no Messi, his passing range isn't anywhere near as good, nor is his dribbling and vision. He's not much use as a playmaker. That's why he always goes missing when everyone else is playing poorly.
The Football Manager player-having-a-mare script keeps going for Ronaldo. The classic offside goal getting tucked away with ease after missing handfuls of chances and a penalty beforehand.
Most overhyped player in football history?
More than Denilson, David Luiz and Robinho together?
Those 3 would make you forget them after a few bad seasons or huge mistakes.
Ronaldo's longevity makes you wait something big from him. A big match, a grand performance in a final. But no, he has never produced such things. He is ubelievably consistent in the leagues he has played, but the big competitions and matches are not for him.
I'm sorry to say so, but anybody who compares Cruyff or Maradona to them, has never thought of the personality - the mental strength - that players like Cruyff and Maradona brought in the game.
P.S.: CHL is a big competition, but scoring against the BATEs and the Wolfsburgs says nothing if you can't score in EUROs and WCs.
More than Denilson, David Luiz and Robinho together?
Those 3 would make you forget them after a few bad seasons or huge mistakes.
Ronaldo's longevity makes you wait something big from him. A big match, a grand performance in a final. But no, he has never produced such things. He is ubelievably consistent in the leagues he has played, but the big competitions and matches are not for him.
I'm sorry to say so, but anybody who compares Cruyff or Maradona to them, has never thought of the personality - the mental strength - that players like Cruyff and Maradona brought in the game.
P.S.: CHL is a big competition, but scoring against the BATEs and the Wolfsburgs says nothing if you can't score in EUROs and WCs.
No. He just is a selfish player. Granted the players next to him aren't on the same level as his real madrid teammates, but his idiotic shots from long range blocked by the defenders just shows he has no faith in his teammates. I think after all the misses he's had, his team has the right to have no faith in him. Nani was just as close to scoring and still works hard to involve his teammates. Don't justify the single reason why Ronaldo will never be considered the best player in the world: he's just too selfish.
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If he was a less selfish player he would have developed that side of his game though, he could obviously have it in his locker. Even Zlatan when Sweden are playing poorly drops deeper and takes the game from there and tries to lay team mates on knowing he will get all the attention, Ronaldo never drops deep so defenders can just keep their positions and not worry about other players.
If he was a less selfish player he would have developed that side of his game though, he could obviously have it in his locker. Even Zlatan when Sweden are playing poorly drops deeper and takes the game from there and tries to lay team mates on knowing he will get all the attention, Ronaldo never drops deep so defenders can just keep their positions and not worry about other players.
classic Portugal performance in a tournament!
Obligatory fantasy football captain fail, even in a sh!T game like McDonalds, where you can change your cap every day
Had 8 captains without a goal or assist now!
Obligatory fantasy football captain fail, even in a sh!T game like McDonalds, where you can change your cap every day
Had 8 captains without a goal or assist now!
It's lunacy that he's still allowed to take them.
Always amuses me when he's described as clinical.
And some want to give hime the Balon D'Or this year.
Overreaction imo
It belongs to Modric
The only bad thing he did was miss the penalty. Tried hard tonight to be fair to him.
Believe me I hate Ronaldo more than any one but he was still good.
Believe me I hate Ronaldo more than any one but he was still good.
No way
Deserved that deserved that for his comments
I am raising a question.
Can you say he is overhyped?
I say YES, in terms of how big a player he is. Comparing him to the great ones is nonsense.
Comparing him to really overhyped players, Denilson for example, is nonsense, too.
His longevity is superb, but he will never be a maestro with real balls.
His goalscoring is remarkable but as a player he is one of the most over rated players.
When people are claiming he's one of the all time greats and better than Messi etc etc it's hard to deny he's over rated?
Then who is the one who played the best football AND helped his team win trophies?
Knew he'd miss unfortunately. It's not happening for him and he does miss them sometimes when the pressure is on.
Really shouldn't be owning the FKs either
Really shouldn't be owning the FKs either
Exactly. That's exactly what I 've written in a comment just before this one you are reading.
You cannot compare him to Maradona. It's ridiculous.
Luis Suarez
Its moreso case of people overrating the other all time greats - probably because they were larger than life figures when most people saw them as kids.
Scored in the Final & top scorer in the 2007 CL at Utd? Dismantled the Arse on their shiny new ground. Crucial goals throughout that run.
Heart of stone required not to see tonight was amusing after the unsportingness of his Iceland comments, tbf.
But lumping him with Denilson, Robinho seems wide of the mark to me. Not even hitting the post with that one,
.Only 3 goals away from joining Platini as the all time top scorer in the Euros, albeit he has played 15 games to Platini's 5! Interestingly Rooney is joint (with a few people) 4th on the list of all time top goal scorer in the competition. Two goals in this competition would take him second alongside Alan Shearer. Rooney has 5 goals in 8 games across three tournaments.
Yea that's like saying that back in the days they had it a lot easier and therefore one cannot discuss anything and compare players that are from different generations.
There's nothing ridiculous in comparing him with Maradona.
I'm not getting into debate if he's better or not, mind you, just saying you cannot claim that it's ridiculous or it's a no-starter.
He's been the best player over the last 3 seasons imo.
I like him again.
Said this earlier. Put any top player in Madrid and make them the focal point and they would score as much if not more. RvN would get 70+ goals if he played for this Madrid. Suarez, Iniesta, Neymar and Xavi are the players I would put above CR in this era.
The other all time greats lead their national teams to glory. Maradona took Argentina (and Napoli) by the hand and produced miracles. Pele was the best among other top players and so on.
Neymar? He's had 1 good season come on.
- Looks at Ronaldo thread
- Sees people saying Ronaldo is overrated
- Dies a little inside
- Sees people saying Ronaldo is overrated
- Dies a little inside
Scored in the Final & top scorer in the 2007 CL at Utd? Dismantled the Arse on their shiny new ground. Crucial goals throughout that run.
Heart of stone required not to see tonight was amusing after the unsportingness of his Iceland comments, tbf.
But lumping him with Denilson, Robinho seems wide of the mark to me. Not even hitting the post with that one,
I ve already answered to this. You didn't get it.
I am raising a question.
Can you say he is overhyped?
I say YES, in terms of how big a player he is. Comparing him to the great ones is nonsense.
Comparing him to really overhyped players, Denilson for example, is nonsense, too.
His longevity is superb, but he will never be a maestro with real balls.
Can you say he is overhyped?
I say YES, in terms of how big a player he is. Comparing him to the great ones is nonsense.
Comparing him to really overhyped players, Denilson for example, is nonsense, too.
His longevity is superb, but he will never be a maestro with real balls.
100%. He turns up for his NT and his season at Liverpool in 13/14 season is one of the best individual seasons I have ever seen and he was the best player that year. He turned Liverpool from a mid table team to title contenders. No other player in this era can do that as far as I'm concerned.
For me he is the best #9 I have seen since MvB. If he was faster he would be the undisputed best for me. He does everything that a complete #9 should do.
Neither coexisted with Messi - so there. If you put each of these players in a time period by themselves they would be comparably dominant.
He's been shite but this is madness.
Do people even read the comments?
I am raising a question.
Can you say he is overhyped?
I say YES, in terms of how big a player he is. Comparing him to the great ones is nonsense.
Comparing him to really overhyped players, Denilson for example, is nonsense, too.
His longevity is superb, but he will never be a maestro with real balls.
Can you say he is overhyped?
I say YES, in terms of how big a player he is. Comparing him to the great ones is nonsense.
Comparing him to really overhyped players, Denilson for example, is nonsense, too.
His longevity is superb, but he will never be a maestro with real balls.
He'll go down as one of the greatest players ever and his goal scoring record is incredible but I don't recall ever seeing a player who plays for himself as much as he does. I know he contributes massively through large amounts of goals but there are plenty of times where he costs his team as well - not necessarily his penalty miss (which could happen to anyone) and actually thought he did OK tonight but the likes of insisting on shooting for 40+ yards on free kicks is just moronic. It's as if he thinks of personal contribution through goals only and could be a better player and captain if he learned when to play for the team and when to do it himself. Ego is important but I'd expect a player of his pedigree and experience to be better at controlling it for the sake of winning the game.
Probably harsh given his record but...
Probably harsh given his record but...
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