He's not physically up to the league, I'd go as far as to say he's a complete pussy of a player and doesn't fancy the physical side of our game. I suspect he'd jump at the chance to go home.
Jose's signings and those possibly leaving this summer?
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He's not physically up to the league, I'd go as far as to say he's a complete pussy of a player and doesn't fancy the physical side of our game. I suspect he'd jump at the chance to go home.
I liked a lot of things about Darmian when he first came but feck me, that Arsenal away performance was an inept as I've seen from a senior international player at that level. He was completely and utterly embarrassed by Sanchez, which can happen to anyone of course, but Darmian shrank and got fecking bullied by him too.
If we are going to get rid of him we need someone who can play at RB not an out of form RM like Valencia.
Completely agree, it was at that moment it was clear he wasn't a United player. He gave in, United players shouldn't give in.
I wasn't convinced by a few injuries he got towards the end of the season, I hate to think someone doesn't fancy a certain match but I honestly think he could have been taking the easy route out.
Sign someone then, he's not the only right back in the world football.
If he's not good enough, he's not worth having anyway.
I think our new Eric is possibly that someone, as I just feel that Jose will want to bring in a more experienced centre half.
If we signed Pogba, Zlatan and Bailly this summer, I feel we would be in very good shape going into next season.
Dare I say it, I think 4th would be within reach.
Dare I say it, I think 4th would be within reach.
Just reading the Darmian quotes, Arsenal away was horrendous and the 20 minutes he came on away at Spurs was horrendous, Fosu-Mensah was unreal and as soon as he got injured, replaced by Darmian 8 minutes later we were 3 down. I think Mensah might make himself first choice during pre season as he is the type of full back Jose craves (big strong athletic can attack and loves a tackle), maybe keeping Valencia or Young as back up, I like Varela but he might be a bit to lightweight for Jose.
Bailly has played right back for Villareal quite a lot last season so he could be an option, he might still go buy another CB as well, hopefully not Stones, but I can see him going all out for Pogba and we could have a chance depending on Madrid, love the look of that Pjanic, looks a classy midfielder and Matic has been mooted today.
Ibra looks just about done and hopefully he goes all out for a top RW, pipe dream is Griezmann but can't see him leaving A. Madrid, especially if Simone stays, Sane from Schalke looks a good player but I would throw 30m at Leicester for Mahrez, him Martial Ibra, Pogba Rooney Pjanic/Matic (dreaming a little there but it is silly season).
Personal choice would be:
In's: Bailly, Pogba, Pjanic, Mahrez/Sane, Ibra
Out's: Rojo, Valencia, Jones, Fellani, Mata (only because I think he is now on borrowed time), Schweinsteiger
Bailly has played right back for Villareal quite a lot last season so he could be an option, he might still go buy another CB as well, hopefully not Stones, but I can see him going all out for Pogba and we could have a chance depending on Madrid, love the look of that Pjanic, looks a classy midfielder and Matic has been mooted today.
Ibra looks just about done and hopefully he goes all out for a top RW, pipe dream is Griezmann but can't see him leaving A. Madrid, especially if Simone stays, Sane from Schalke looks a good player but I would throw 30m at Leicester for Mahrez, him Martial Ibra, Pogba Rooney Pjanic/Matic (dreaming a little there but it is silly season).
Personal choice would be:
In's: Bailly, Pogba, Pjanic, Mahrez/Sane, Ibra
Out's: Rojo, Valencia, Jones, Fellani, Mata (only because I think he is now on borrowed time), Schweinsteiger
Really bizarre, how Darmian looked like a world beater for about two months, then became a completely different player. He was rock solid and dominated almost every 50/50 ball. Then he declined. Usually that doesn't happen to new players until the second season. If it was a confidence issue then it's a very serious issue because he never really came back.
Rojo and Darmian to go for me, because neither can be trusted. Smalling and Jones can also play RB so I'd keep them.. Jones can also do a job as the anchor man protecting the back four, I can see Mourinho utilizing him in a role like that, so I'd give him another chance.
Rojo and Darmian to go for me, because neither can be trusted. Smalling and Jones can also play RB so I'd keep them.. Jones can also do a job as the anchor man protecting the back four, I can see Mourinho utilizing him in a role like that, so I'd give him another chance.
I wonder will JM be going for some targets that he had been looking at while he still at Chelsea up to late last year ?
Shame the Caneiro thread has been locked...not RAWKesque at all. No. Would it be considered passable to refer to him as the Sexist One when the mood takes? Much like Suarez was the Racist? I think it'll be ok.
Anyway, carry on. Bailly, good signing. Good thing he's not woman really.
Anyway, carry on. Bailly, good signing. Good thing he's not woman really.
Shut it, you daughter of a whore!Shame the Caneiro thread has been locked...not RAWKesque at all. No. Would it be considered passable to refer to him as the Sexist One when the mood takes? Much like Suarez was the Racist? I think it'll be ok.
Anyway, carry on. Bailly, good signing. Good thing he's not woman really.
I still think there is lot more to come.. Mourinho loves revamping squads early doors and making them his own. He has had alot of time off and I would not be surprised if he has got a very clear vision of targets and who he thinks he doesn't need at the club.
** ideally I'd want a striker at his peak to really take our attack to the next level, but if we are to go for top 4.. Ibra for one season should be sufficient and we can spend big next year on a big striker like a Greizmann/Dybala/Kane type of talent. Or Rashford could continue to progress and cement himself as United's number 9.
For me James Rodriguez or Andre Gomes and Ibrahimovic, if I had to put money on it are definitely coming. The other positions I expect to be filled but will depend on who is available/willing to come/Mourinho decides to gamble on youngster from within the squad. Controlling CM, RW are the next priorities in terms of signings.
- Big name CB (Varane/Stones etc)/Unknown right back (depends on Bailly's role),
- Bailly - basically I expect Right back and CB to be sorted out in the summer.
- Kante/Matic
- Pogba/Nevez/Pjanic
- Gomes/Rodriguez
- Willian/Mahrez
- Ibra**
** ideally I'd want a striker at his peak to really take our attack to the next level, but if we are to go for top 4.. Ibra for one season should be sufficient and we can spend big next year on a big striker like a Greizmann/Dybala/Kane type of talent. Or Rashford could continue to progress and cement himself as United's number 9.
For me James Rodriguez or Andre Gomes and Ibrahimovic, if I had to put money on it are definitely coming. The other positions I expect to be filled but will depend on who is available/willing to come/Mourinho decides to gamble on youngster from within the squad. Controlling CM, RW are the next priorities in terms of signings.
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Shame the Caneiro thread has been locked...not RAWKesque at all. No. Would it be considered passable to refer to him as the Sexist One when the mood takes? Much like Suarez was the Racist? I think it'll be ok.
Anyway, carry on. Bailly, good signing. Good thing he's not woman really.
Quit yer wumming. His behaviour was criticised by the majority of our fans in that thread bar a few misogynists.
His character also continues to be a subject of heated debate with many United fans very suspicious of him and convinced he will embarrass us as a club so it's pretty stupid to try and create a narrative that all his past behaviour is now forgotten because he's our manager.
As of now he has yet to do something controversial while under our employment and until he does he'll get the benefit of the doubt. When he does you can be damn sure there will be a queue of United fans lining up to condemn his behaviour.
There will be no t-shirts and no sudden degrees in foreign expletives, that's for sure.
There's just no fun in here since Ferguson left.
More boringly, and worryingly, it seems Mourinho is sorting out Moyes' and LvG's messes pretty quickly.
The first club to hire female doctor in the first team squad and they're labeled sexist....
According to whoscored, Bailly only played 2 games at RB. He also apparently rated out at 7.75 there which is great.
I agree with your ins. Pretty much exactly what I'd do except I reckon we need another CB, someone who can distribute from the back and partner smalling. If we don't sign another, I'm not sure how comfortable I am letting both Rojo and jones go.
So I'd add another CB to the ins. Manolas maybe?
Out: Fellaini, Rojo, Darmian, jones, mata, schweinsteiger
Hopefully we could fetch £15-20m for each of mata and Fellaini, ~£10m for each of Rojo, Jones and Darmian.
Yeah mate agree thinking about it before we could do with another cb yeah apparently solid the lad at roma although never seen him play to be honest, would love Varane but can't see it happening, don't fancy Stones tbh
Want Blind to stay done really well this year harsh if he gets sold but we will see, rumours Juve bidding 30 for Mata and yeah think we would get 15 for Fellani, interesting times buddy few signings and the kids we have could be a class season next year
Do people even watch these players play? These guys sucked. I don't understand why we would go after expensive options who wouldn't even crack the first team.
Mourinho hasn't come here to challenge the 4th place trophy. There's very little point getting rid of LVG who was basically competing for that trophy in the past two seasons then.
We need 4 moresignings.
CB, ST, RW and CM.
Pogba, Mahrez, Ibrahimovic and Manolas.
Bang on,
Filha da puta doesn't mean "son" of a whore. Even if it did, it's not anatomically correct to be considered be sexist.
Golddigger only after money, she has taken equal rights / equal opportunities for women back 10 years. all because she wasn't sat on a fecking bench on match days.
Agreed but we can't just expect to challenge after the two years we've had. If we get in the top 3, it should be classed as a good season. People may say, 'that's a lack of ambition, We are United!' but we have to look at ourselves now! We have so many average players we would need to change around 8 to be classed as a world beater again.
I like your recommendation....but.... I don't see us getting Pogba. I feel this could be like the Vidal transfer of two years back. Will he, won't he, but he has his pick of clubs and we are not the most attractive proposition yet, next year maybe but not yet.
Mahrez i could see. He loves the prem and has already stated his preference to stay in England so that rules a lot of teams out. It could be between us and Arsenal if we both go in for him. Its a big if though.
I also think we are done with CB this year, i don't think JM would spend £30+ mill for Bailly to sit on the bench and i don't agree with those that see him as a right back.
I do hope Zlatan comes in but i also hope he isn't the biggest player we get this summer, We shall see.
We've made one transfer (relatively unknown CB) and sold no one so far so a bit of an odd comment.
Confidence seemed shot to me but I totally disagree about not being physically up to the league. Serie A is a physical league too and early doors as someone else said in this thread he was winning all his 50/50s. The only thing concerns me about him as a player is his lack of pace over 10metres, one of the reasons Sanchez dance passed him.
Also I dont see Mensah there as some mentioned, he looked much better on the left for me but I dont see him as a full back at all, I expect him to fill in at centre back and central midfield which is where I see his future longer term. He is a beast already physically but positionally he looked lost at right back for me.
I dont see any short term concerns for us personally at right back, Darmian could kick on, we have Valencia who can do a decent job then the likes of SMalling, JOnes, Mensah can all play there. Dont see us signing anybody to play there this window anyway
8 players is ridiculous.. so you think we have only 3 players that could start for a challenging team?
Not talking about CL favourites but our squad is good enough to challenge for the title if we add only Bailly and Ibra. I really do believe that.
We already were the best team against the top 6 with LVG in charge! So all they need is depth, a fluent game and a manager that can adapt his team to different situations.
So many players were underachieving, look at Herrera, Schneiderlin, Depay etc. all of them have the potential to drive under Mourinho.
DDG
Darmian-Smalling-Bailly-Shaw
Schneiderlin-Rooney-Herrera
Rashford-Ibra-Martial
Which 8 players have to be replaced to be a potential title winner?
Leicester and Spurs were challengers this year, none of them have a better squad than that.
I'm sure transfer business isn't over yet so add a winger for example Willian or Mkhitaryan in combination with fit-again Shaw/Schweini and our youngsters.
I know positivity isn't a thing here and understandingly so given the last 3 years but his team can win the title I'm sure.
Top 3 isn't a goal for Mourinho.
I'm hoping for something like that:
In: Bailly, Ibra, Stones, Willian
Out: Mata, Blind, Fellaini
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I agree with you that he is being overly negative....same token you are over positive in my opinion. He is right we have a lot of average players but we dont need 8 players. Personally I think it is somewhere in between, two is definately not enough, that isnt a midfield to win the league and Rashford on the right wing for a season to rely on....no. I think if Ibrahimovic is signed, we still definately need a quality central midfielder and a right winger minimum. We have lots of good youngsters and "average" players for a good squad, where I think the other person is to a degree right is we dont have anything close to a good first 11 to consistantly challenge, ideally I would like to see 5 players signed and pretty much the same amount shipped out at least
Yes! Name me the players that would get in a top team in Europe.
This is all guesswork. Potential is all well and good but we need here and now.
This is just unfair. It seems that if some fans mention that our players aren't good enough, we are being negative! Its just my opinion and it counts as much as the next guys.
1. Darmian
2. Blind
3. Depay
4. Mata
5. Rojo
6. Schweinsteiger
7. Side show bob
8. Rooney
Im taking about performance last season not potential. Mata was a hard choice as im a fan but his lack of pace is a killer when he plays wide right. Im lucky enough to have a season ticket and have never missed a game in the 2 years ive had it, that said, Mata's shooting is very poor. He got 10 goals last year with 6 of them in the league but i've watched him miss chance after chance.
I hope the window isn't closed for us but bringing in player creates other problems. Team cohesion doesn't just happen overnight.
De Gea is now 100% behind the philosophy. Bought a really strong defender. Linked with Pogba, Matic, Morata and their ilk.
I'm already reminiscing about the lengthy posts to educate us unwashed on how ass whoopingly world class Herrera, Blind, Schweinsteiger and Scneiderlin were going to turn out.
No idea why anyone is mentioning Blind as a departure. He was our best defender last year and one of the best in the entire league. It's not cool to say it, but it's true. Smalling was great, Blind was better. He can also play everywhere that Rojo can, who is the definition of average.
In
Bailly
Ibra
Pogba
Out
Rojo
Valdes
I could see Fellaini and Mata leaving in January, Darmian too possibly. But I think Jose will give most of the squad half a season before he starts a committed clear out. Januzaj and Memphis are going to need to show a lot in this coming season in order to not be replaced by an expensive replacement.
In
Bailly
Ibra
Pogba
Out
Rojo
Valdes
I could see Fellaini and Mata leaving in January, Darmian too possibly. But I think Jose will give most of the squad half a season before he starts a committed clear out. Januzaj and Memphis are going to need to show a lot in this coming season in order to not be replaced by an expensive replacement.
Wonder what Mourinho makes of the current midfield. It was a major disappointment last season, for one reason and another.
In: Bailly (tick) Ibra (?) and Willian (I am convinced Mou can lure him up to OT), a CM (can't see us getting Pogba though)
Out: Rojo (Sunday league), Jones (injuries), Fellaini (obvious reasons), Mata (can't see Mou changing his philosophy), Valdes (old and might as well give fresh blood a chance to sit on a bench)
Out: Rojo (Sunday league), Jones (injuries), Fellaini (obvious reasons), Mata (can't see Mou changing his philosophy), Valdes (old and might as well give fresh blood a chance to sit on a bench)
You got that right. He gets a tap on the ankle, and not only does he refuse to get up and get on with it, but you actually don't see him for weeks after. He's weak as piss and doesn't reflect the United way.
Jose recently posted some of his work stuff on Instagram. One of the folders was a formation field, with red players and white players. But if you zoom in enough and flip the image it looks like 4-2-3-1 formation for the red players. Could mean we are likely to sign players suited to the 4-2-3-1 formation.
In:
Bailly (done)
Ibra (hopefully)
Matic (fan of his)
1 right winger/1 CM
Out:
Mata
Carrick
Jones
Herrera.
Bailly (done)
Ibra (hopefully)
Matic (fan of his)
1 right winger/1 CM
Out:
Mata
Carrick
Jones
Herrera.
The negative comment is just an opinion, and you are making good pointst. Dont get me wrong, last season was one of the worst United sides I can remember in over 30 years so I am negative too. I think the majority of our signings in 4-5 years or so have been awful and bar Rooney and Darmian on that list I would agree with every player you want to get rid of and more. I just think we have a big squad which is decent apart from the first eleven and not all the outgoings need to be replaced from outside. We need a few star players in terms of talent rather than name to add to our youngsters and experienced players, like you say we dont have many on last years showing that would get in to Europes top sides but DeGea, Shaw, Smalling all looked very good to me for the majority of the time they played to be first eleven players, Fosuh Mensah, Perreira and Rashford are all potential stars and for another season at least Rooney, Valencia and Carrick tho past there best and probably over rated anyway are not bad players by any means. The last 3 years has been awful both in terms of style of play and talent and we ned to act urgently to avoid slipping like Liverpool did from there heyday.
I just think we have 1/3 of a great first eleven, a few decent players, some great young ones and dont need to add 8 players that is all
I listed you 11 players and asked you to upgrade 8 of them because according to you we are that far away... I didn't mean to ask which of the bench warmers you'd replace.
You are also talking about different things here. First you said we can't realistically challenge for the title and should aim for top 3.
That's not the same level as being a CL favourite like Real or Barca.
If we're talking about being Bayern/Barca level you are not that wrong, it'd need around 5 top class signings and some time too.
However, what I replied to was our goal for the next season. How the hell should that be top 3 and not the title? Do you realize we were 4 points away from top 3 in this last awful season?
So we can add
-a new Manager, one of the best in Europe
-Bailly, top defender
-Zlatan fecking Ibra
-1-2 more signings for sure
-Shaw and Schweini fit again
-Martial, Rashford etc. further developed
..and you'd call it a success with 4 more points than this season?!
Also, you are underestimating the influence of a good manager. Look what Simeone did at Atletico. They are challenging for CL title for a few years now and how many of his players would walk right into a Real/Barca side? It's not always about buying the most fancy players around to be competitive.
The players i would like to be sold -
1. Jones - Now that we have bought Eric, Jones has moved down to 5th in CB pecking order. i know Rojo is shit as a 4th choice CB, but at least he remains match fit and can play odd 3-4 matches when both Smalling and Eric are out injured. I would prefer a player who can stay match fit than to a guy who remains in sidelines for 8-9 months and decent skill-wise.price -10-12 mils.
2. Mata - Clearly his impact/overall contribution on the game has diminished and he is not the same player he was 2-3 years ago. He slows down the attacking moves- Does not track back to help defence and we can't afford such a luxury player. if we get an offer around 20 mils. we SHOULD sell him.
3. Varela and Young - we already have Darmian and TFM as 1st - 2nd choice RBs. Valencia is a better RB than both Varela and Young.Also he fits Mou's criteria for a RB. Combined fee - 8-9 mils.
4. Fellaini - If we are going to buy Ibra and an AM-CAM, i don't see any place of Fellaini in the squad as he sucks as a CM.Bastian,Carrick,Mogran all are better than him as a CM. fee - 15-18 mils.
Total cost recouped from selling players - 55 -60 mils.
It's better we spend this 50-60 mils on a RW / CAM who can improve our 1st team significantly like -Mahrez
1. Jones - Now that we have bought Eric, Jones has moved down to 5th in CB pecking order. i know Rojo is shit as a 4th choice CB, but at least he remains match fit and can play odd 3-4 matches when both Smalling and Eric are out injured. I would prefer a player who can stay match fit than to a guy who remains in sidelines for 8-9 months and decent skill-wise.price -10-12 mils.
2. Mata - Clearly his impact/overall contribution on the game has diminished and he is not the same player he was 2-3 years ago. He slows down the attacking moves- Does not track back to help defence and we can't afford such a luxury player. if we get an offer around 20 mils. we SHOULD sell him.
3. Varela and Young - we already have Darmian and TFM as 1st - 2nd choice RBs. Valencia is a better RB than both Varela and Young.Also he fits Mou's criteria for a RB. Combined fee - 8-9 mils.
4. Fellaini - If we are going to buy Ibra and an AM-CAM, i don't see any place of Fellaini in the squad as he sucks as a CM.Bastian,Carrick,Mogran all are better than him as a CM. fee - 15-18 mils.
Total cost recouped from selling players - 55 -60 mils.
It's better we spend this 50-60 mils on a RW / CAM who can improve our 1st team significantly like -Mahrez
Carrick stays. Mata stays; he will be a touchstone of Mou's new United style, and show that Woodward was right about him all along. Fellaini I am less sure about, but for the moment, he stays. No Pogba, obviously. Matic in, and maybe one or two obscure talents, one of whom can play on the wing. Ibra. ***'s all, folks.
Do you realize, Leicester and Spurs were the only teams to have a good season? Arsenal finished but that must have been sean as a bad season as their main rivals were all in poor form throughout the season.
1. Darmian Starts - 32 Sub - 7
2. Blind Starts - 55 Sub - 1
3. Depay - Starts - 27 Sub - 18 (granted, bench warmer)
4. Mata - Starts - 49 Sub - 5
5. Rojo - Starts - 26 Sub - 2
6. Schweinsteiger - starts - 21 Sub - 10 (Always going to be injury prone)
7. Sideshow bob - Starts 23 Subs - 11
8. Rooney - Starts - 38 Sub - 3
Thats a lot of games started for so called benchwarmers!