Labour MP Jo Cox shot | RIP Jo Cox

[Rado_N]

Well it seems to affect everyone in the family the same ie not at all.

You're disgusting.

 

[Penna]

Sorry but am I the only one who thinks her family really are emotionless and hardly showing any signs of grief in this video? Surely you wouldn't have even slept for the 2 days since and would be utterly distraught.

She's being composed, she wants to give her message clearly. It takes a bit of self-control.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

Cor blimey, there's no point arguing with @BringNaniBack.

As an aside I'm notorious in my family for not crying after someone's death until weeks after. Not sure why, I think it's just a case of that's when it hits me that I'll never see that person again.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

"If people feel that voting doesn’t change anything, then violence is the next step,” Mr. Farage said in an interview with the BBC last month. “I find it difficult to contemplate it happening here, but nothing’s impossible.”

(Source: New York Times)

One of the few things Farage has got right I suppose.

 

[DenisIrwin]

I do wish people would stop arguing over a label to pin on this. Wtf does it matter?!

 

[Shamwow]

Sorry but am I the only one who thinks her family really are emotionless and hardly showing any signs of grief in this video? Surely you wouldn't have even slept for the 2 days since and would be utterly distraught.

You seriously can't see the grief there? It's screaming through the cracks.

 

[NinjaFletch]

Still avoided replying to the Rigby question.

Even more amusingly because to the best of my knowledge his murderers were tried and convicted of murder not 'terrorism'.

 

[Rado_N]

I do wish people would stop arguing over a label to pin on this. Wtf does it matter?!

It's pretty important to understand the implications of extreme rhetoric.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

I do wish people would stop arguing over a label to pin on this. Wtf does it matter?!

No point sitting on the fence. Labels do matter, have always done. How we label someone is indicative of how we see others in society.

 

[DenisIrwin]

It's pretty important to understand the implications of extreme rhetoric.

Extremely important?

 

[Fener1907]

Sorry but am I the only one who thinks her family really are emotionless and hardly showing any signs of grief in this video? Surely you wouldn't have even slept for the 2 days since and would be utterly distraught.

Stick to the contrived conspiracy theories. Reading human emotions clearly isn't your forte.

 

[SteveJ]

For many people at such sad events, decorum is important - they know that breaking down and wailing (even if that would be entirely understandable in the circumstances) will only cause pain to those they, and the deceased, care about. For instance, there are many conspiracy theories about Princess Diana's death and yet her two young sons were truly admirable and mature in their stoic behaviour at the time and afterwards; are we then seriously to believe that those boys were 'in on it' too?

 

[FlawlessThaw]

Even more amusingly because to the best of my knowledge his murderers were tried and convicted of murder not 'terrorism'.

You're right they were found guilty of Murder. To be fair maybe we're wrong about @Redeadwhatever his name is. I mean he could have seen the Lee Rigby killers as just mentally insane as well...

 

[BringNaniBack]

Stick to the contrived conspiracy theories. Reading human emotions clearly isn't your forte.

Clearly it's not yours mate. I read human emotions just fine.

 

[Silva]

Sorry but am I the only one who thinks her family really are emotionless and hardly showing any signs of grief in this video? Surely you wouldn't have even slept for the 2 days since and would be utterly distraught.

You're fecking mental.

 

[Fener1907]

Clearly it's not yours mate. I read human emotions just fine.

Nothing about the way you perceive the world seems 'fine,' buddy/pal/friend/mate.

 

[Ubik]

Sorry but am I the only one who thinks her family really are emotionless and hardly showing any signs of grief in this video? Surely you wouldn't have even slept for the 2 days since and would be utterly distraught.

F*ck off, you utterly comtemptible piece of shit. You're comfortably the worst poster I've had the misfortune of reading on this board, and in this thread so far you've only been concerned with trying to smear the remain camp and now implying that it's some kind of conspiracy.

 

[BringNaniBack]

Feckin hell. Seriously. Who are you to say how someone should react in grief? Get a life.

I'm not to say but I would imagine 2 days after the death of your daughter/sister you wouldn't look as fresh as a daisy and be out doing a speech. Why would you even want to be out in public doing that? Let alone her husband who released a statement about half an hour after she died. I'm sure the first thing on my mind when my closest loved one had just died would be to quickly write a statement to the press telling them we need to fight against the hatred that killed her.

They must just have a different mindset to me, maybe i'm just not human. I will leave it there. Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[BringNaniBack]

Nothing about the way you perceive the world seems 'fine,' buddy/pal/friend/mate.

I perceive the world how it is. Sadly it's not a very nice place.

 

[unchanged_lineup]

I'm not to say.

This is where you should have left it.

 

[BringNaniBack]

F*ck off, you utterly comtemptible piece of shit. You're comfortably the worst poster I've had the misfortune of reading on this board, and in this thread so far you've only been concerned with trying to smear the remain camp and now implying that it's some kind of conspiracy.

Thanks. You're also a brilliant poster.

 

[Shamwow]

I'm not to say but I would imagine 2 days after the death of your daughter/sister you wouldn't look as fresh as a daisy and be out doing a speech. Why would you even want to be out in public doing that? Let alone her husband who released a statement about half an hour after she died. I'm sure the first thing on my mind when my closest loved one had just died would be to quickly write a statement to the press telling them we need to fight against the hatred that killed her.

They must just have a different mindset to me, maybe i'm just not human. I will leave it there. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Have you been through the experience yourself?

 

[Rado_N]

I'm not to say but I would imagine 2 days after the death of your daughter/sister you wouldn't look as fresh as a daisy and be out doing a speech. Why would you even want to be out in public doing that? Let alone her husband who released a statement about half an hour after she died. I'm sure the first thing on my mind when my closest loved one had just died would be to quickly write a statement to the press telling them we need to fight against the hatred that killed her.

They must just have a different mindset to me, maybe i'm just not human. I will leave it there. Sorry if I offended anyone.

I'm sick of you, take a break.

 

[RedTiger]

This threads descending a little bit.

 

[SteveJ]

While we're on the subject of possible conspiracy...

Do find it very suspicious that a quiet loner decided to murder a mother of two young kids a week before the referendum, while slinging out the phrases he has. If he targeted her, it means he researched her. If he researched her, it means he believed whatever motive he held to be more important than depriving two kids of their mother, adding fuel to the Brexiters = far right nutjobs angle and, ultimately, making a remain vote more likely. It's incredible that someone could put so much planning into a crime that would only damage their cause(s).

I think he's been heavily manipulated. Or that a switch was flipped at some point and he became genuinely deranged, not just damaged and vulnerable.

/tinfoil hat.

Most often, there's no conspiracy at all. For example, the received wisdom for decades was that the Nazis arranged the burning of the Reichstag; now, virtually every credible historian concludes that the arrested culprit started the fire off his own back (so to speak).

It's fine - and somewhat healthy for democracy - to be aware of the possible motivations & actions of one's government/representatives but, often, the actual truth is simple.

 

[Rado_N]

Extremely important?

I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to get at.

 

[Fener1907]

I perceive the world how it is. Sadly it's not a very nice place.

You keep telling yourself that, enlightened one.

 

[Cheesy]

I'm not to say but I would imagine 2 days after the death of your daughter/sister you wouldn't look as fresh as a daisy and be out doing a speech. Why would you even want to be out in public doing that? Let alone her husband who released a statement about half an hour after she died. I'm sure the first thing on my mind when my closest loved one had just died would be to quickly write a statement to the press telling them we need to fight against the hatred that killed her.

They must just have a different mindset to me, maybe i'm just not human. I will leave it there. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Because I'd imagine he wants to remain strong for their children, and try to honour her memory as best he can. Personally, I'd say he comes across as rather admirable for doing so. No doubt that doesn't suit your twisted narrative, though.

 

[Rednotdead]

You're posting frequently enough for a person with no time to post.

I didn't say "no time to post" did I?

 

[Rado_N]

I didn't say "no time to post" did I?

So answer the bloody questions.

 

[NinjaFletch]

While we're on the subject of possible conspiracy...



Most often, there's no conspiracy at all. For example, the received wisdom for decades was that the Nazis arranged the burning of the Reichstag; now, virtually every credible historian concludes that the arrested culprit started the fire off his own back (so to speak).

It's fine - and somewhat healthy for democracy - to be aware of the possible motivations & actions of one's government/representatives but, often, the actual truth is simple.

Just out of interest would you be able to send me something on that? I need a break from startng at medieval manuscripts and haven't heard anything like that (although most of my Nazi Germany knowledge comes from a GCSE and a module in my first year as an undergrad so probably not surprising).

 

[Rednotdead]

All I'm doing is asking for your opinion. Not even asking for detail, just a few words would do. Would you class Rigby murder as terrorism or excuse it like you're doing with this case? Simple.

I'm not "excusing" anything. Maybe I just have a different view on what's "terrorism". My view is that it needs to be linked to a specific organisation with terrorist aims. Obviously you'll disagree.

 

[SteveJ]

Just out of interest would you be able to send me something on that? I need a break from startng at medieval manuscripts and haven't heard anything like that (although most of my Nazi Germany knowledge comes from a GCSE and a module in my first year as an undergrad so probably not surprising).

Sorry, chief, I don't have anything specific. Even Professor Wiki is more informed than I am:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich..._Van_der_Lubbe.27s_role_in_the_Reichstag_fire

 

[Rednotdead]

So answer the bloody questions.

I'll answer what I answer and you'll have to make do with that. If that annoys you, so be it.

 

[Rado_N]

I'll answer what I answer and you'll have to make do with that. If that annoys you, so be it.

So you'll call a well articulated post "utter utter nonsense" and then when asked to back up your views you just ignore any questions because you don't feel like answering them.

Don't expect to be taken seriously acting like that.

 

[NinjaFletch]

I'll answer what I answer and you'll have to make do with that. If that annoys you, so be it.

You realise you've spent far more time dodging the question than you would have spent just answering it in the first place right?

 

[unchanged_lineup]

You realise you've spent far more time dodging the question than you would have spent just answering it in the first place right?

This. Don't understand why you're dancing around it, and at great length too.

 

[Frosty]

Just to help, terrorists get charged with murder under the common law all the time. There is no specific terrorist offence needed, because the common law offence covers all intentional killings. Lee Rigby's killers were charged with murder too.

 

[Damien]

Former BNP member to contest Jo Cox's seat: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...tion-bnp-politician-jack-buckby-a7089966.html

All major political parties have said they do not intend to contest the upcoming by-election to elect an MP to the seat following the tragedy, out of respect for Ms Cox’s family and colleagues. However, Jack Buckby has announced he will be contesting the seat for far-right political party Liberty GB, which lists as its main aims; "halting the Islamisation of Britain" and "promoting British values and assimiliation rather than multiculturalism".

Jack Buckby statement:

"While the murder of Jo Cox is tragic, we must not let this tragedy blur the fact that the Labour Party is responsible for the demographic and cultural assault on Britain which has already done great damage in areas of Yorkshire.

"Too much is at stake to allow Labour to retake Batley and Spen unchallenged. The constituency is part of a region that has been turned upside down by mass immigration, with mosques sprouting like triffids, Islamic extremism proliferating, child-rape gangs still on the loose, and long-standing English communities under threat of demographic eradication.

"The Labour Party has blood on its hands. And by shutting down debate and labelling working class people concerned about their communities as racists, they risk driving desperate, disenfranchised people to further horrendous acts like this."

 

[SteveJ]

mosques sprouting like triffids

The triffids were fictional too, 'mate'.