No, if turnout is 75% or more which I am sure would be this time, this result would be final.
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No, if turnout is 75% or more which I am sure would be this time, this result would be final.
They aren't reading this they're too busy spilling lager down their sofa-beds.
Calm down, it wasn't my idea!
The EU may come back to Britain with better terms to rejoin.
In the long run it is better to be in the EU imo.
Really hope things work out and people don't suffer.
In the long run it is better to be in the EU imo.
Really hope things work out and people don't suffer.
Not that it matters but this is wrong. The people signing the petition for another referendum think the winning side should need more than 60% of the vote. Short of Scotland declaring independence tomorrow that's not going to happen.
If 16-17 year olds are deemed mature enough to be allowed to have children, drive and join the armed forces then they should be allowed to vote on something that will have a significant impact on their lives.
The email link won't load. Bloody mi5 up to their tricks again.
Surely the amount of idiots can't be that high?
I seen an interview with a Welsh lady who said she voted to leave because of the austerity cuts, yeah because the UK plunging into another recession because of leaving the EU will fix all that. Jesus.
The time for a protest vote was the General Election.
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I didn't say a petition is a right thing to do. However taking such an important decision to the country and all Europe based on what, 1.5% of voters? Especially as Leave campaign leaders have already admitted that they lied to all these 17 million about saving £350 million per week and reducing migration? I am sure there are lots of people who would change the vote now.
1,519,000 registrations.
"We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum."
It seems to suggest that any result from a >75% turnout would be considered legitimate regardless of the % voting leave or stay.
Everyone who is eligible: for the love of God, sign it.
Even if your not eligible, just tick the box saying your british, I don't think it can tell.
I don't know.. suddenly I'll have James Bond or Piers Morgan knocking at my door.
Quite a few thousand votes were removed last night so not sure it is that simple.
Make sure you sign it with a pen.
its amayzing how quick it is going up its its gone up half a million in an hour.....
Not saying it will happen, but will be very interesting IF this get's over 17 million.
I disagree but I can see where you're coming from.
I'll be impressed if it gets over 3.3 million if i'm honest. That's still 5% of all voters. Not too shabby for an online petition.
To put it into perspective... 3.6m voted from the 33 districts of London.
Very interesting to see the concentration of signatures in university areas such as Oxford and Cambridge vs. big cities like Birmingham, Sheffield and Leeds.
Get Jeremy Vine on the case!
think that is very unlikly, but if this carries on at a simlar rate, thier is an outside chance they may have a real debate about it.
same as the reffrendum isnt it? rich areas voted in, poor out.......
I'll be interested to see how the voting continues in the next few days when the dust settles.
I would have preferred a more decisive result too, but that's democracy for you. Nobody ever said it was a perfect system, just the best we have come up with so far.
Parts of the Leave campaign were dishonest and the same is true for Remain. I can think of many, many instances of lies being fed to the public which have determined electoral results. Cameron fought the last two general elections with promises to cut immigration to the tens of thousands, if he could have done that then UKIP and the whole idea of leaving the EU would have died years ago. Of course he never even came close, it was utter bullshit from the minute some policy wonk thought it up for him.
Yes he did.
Do people actually think this will work? So what if they did another referendum and the turnout was 74% with a 59% Remain and 41% Leave? Would the remainers be all happy and cheery until they realise that they fell under the 60% threshold and the vote was null and void and another referendum had to be held, costing us more and more money.
Plus where does it end? Can we force another General Election if the government who is elected are elected in with 34% of the vote? Can those who voted other parties complain and force another election?
It's a nice way for people to vent anger, but in reality, there is quite likely a 0% chance of this having any chance of success. A democratic country pandering to the will of 1.5 million upset people against the wishes of 17 million. Yep that works
Plus where does it end? Can we force another General Election if the government who is elected are elected in with 34% of the vote? Can those who voted other parties complain and force another election?
It's a nice way for people to vent anger, but in reality, there is quite likely a 0% chance of this having any chance of success. A democratic country pandering to the will of 1.5 million upset people against the wishes of 17 million. Yep that works
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Not bad, but still wont change anything?
Not bad, but still wont change anything?
I can see something like this happening in the US after Trump wins, then immediately says he won't implement any of his policies.
People who wanted to remain wouldn't even need to leave their sofa, because if they didn't vote, the turn out would never reach 75%
was this written by one of those highly educated university types who couldn't be bothered to vote by post and didn't want to get wet so didn't vote?
I am for doing what's right for the country, but entrusting the future of the county to people too dozy to know what day it is, or how to use a post box, or who can't see the massive flaw in their proposed masterplan here, doesn't seem like the best way forward.
The best and only way forward if people want to stay in the EU is going to involve people getting off their arse and taking direct action, that's the only way to stop us leaving.
But that would involve effort, so I don't count on many people joining me.
Signed.
Won't do any good of course, but this is such a monumentally important issue that anything is worth a try.
Won't do any good of course, but this is such a monumentally important issue that anything is worth a try.
So if people who want to remain don't vote and turnout doesn't reach 75%, surely Leave would get 60%, don't you think so?
Signed. Sorry but I just don't want ye to leave us. As bad and all as ye are, I'll miss ye.
That's not what it says.
It says that any vote that doesn't comprise of 75% of the resgistered electorate is invalid and would have to be called again, not only that, but 60% of those people would have to vote one way or the other or the status quo would remain.
So you would have the minority of the people deciding against the majority by not doing a thing.
It's not 60% of those that bother to vote, or you could have the absurd situation where the future of the county is decided by 10 people.
Ergo, people could hold the county to ransom by never lifting a finger.
To implement it you would have to make it compulsory to vote, which goes against the very idea of democracy itself, as its your right to decide whether you vote or not.
Also how exactly would this work? They'd want a rule, retrospectively added to a referendum that's already taken place? Can that even happen?
I could see it being debated and added to future referendums, but to ones that's already happened?
Plus wouldn't such a rule have to be added to the ballot paper so the voter knows full well that his/her vote may not actually count if certain requirements aren't met?
I could see it being debated and added to future referendums, but to ones that's already happened?
Plus wouldn't such a rule have to be added to the ballot paper so the voter knows full well that his/her vote may not actually count if certain requirements aren't met?
Yes, It quite incredible how these vastly intelligent people seem to think you can just change things as you like if things don't go the way you want.
This is one of those times where its not going to be resolved unless people are prepared to get their hands dirty.
It's a completely pointless petition. But I've signed it anyway.
I'd have thought you'd be better of saying the legality of the referendum was void because of the lies told by the leave campaign. £350 million more to spend on the NHS being the key claim. You can add that because it was so close, it has to be rendered void, but the premise of this one is stupid.
Still, signed.