Well, I think regardless who wins the title this upcoming season, I think you've all won the Transfer Muppetry Cup of 2016. It's a mind blowing figure for a player that's not as hyped as the last 3-4 transfer records.
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All the Italian media is reporting that Pogba asked to leave. Propaganda by the Juve management? Tell the media to write such statements so it would look as if Pogba is looking to leave, and not wanting to stay despite new contract offer? The public would then shift the blame more towards the player rather than the board/management?
Either way, whatever happens in between, I would only believe and get excited once he hold up the shirt, or at least someone post a blood sample with his name or something.
Either way, whatever happens in between, I would only believe and get excited once he hold up the shirt, or at least someone post a blood sample with his name or something.
Yep it's brilliant. I already know the sort of comments that they'll be using if we pull this deal off, they'll be the exact comments I'd use if he were transferring to Man City for £100m. And they'd come from the same place as mine would: fear.
Good job the men in power at our club don't evaluate transfers on hype then. Otherwise we'd end up spending £35m on a Geordie's with ponytails who've had a decent half season.
I think it's more about the principle of the matter. United don't want to appear as though they've paid well over the odds and Juventus don't want to look like they've let one of their best players go unless it's for a sum that they couldn't say no to. If everyone comes out looking like it was a fair deal then no one loses face.
If this deal gets finialised, I suspect it will be a large fee but most of it will be performance and achievement based add-ons, which will ultimately be what the negotiations are about. Can't see anyone wanting to stump up €120m cash up front.
I'm sorry you're right, absolutely every detail you might need to know is available publicly, there's no way in the world that there couldcould be more to this. And of course, I'm sure you know better than the people who've made a career out of this.
All I'm trying to say is that yes these sorts of people make mistakes, but at the same time the club isn't going to spend £100m just like that without thinking about it and checking out it could afford to lose it if the worst happened.
I actually dropped my mouse during the post and it changed the font on a word. I don't know what the default font setting is for this forum and was trying to find the one that fit before giving up and just covering the whole body of text with what seemed to best fit.
I didn't set out to do anything to the font.
It sure looks ugly looking at it from that perspective but if we properly take into account the omnipotence we place on the manager and how it no longer tallies with the reality of the modern game then it becomes understandable. Every manager signs players according to their philosophy/principles and its very rare for managers to have similar opinions on players. The only way out of this mess is by establishing a senior post reserved for a football person on the board who will see to it that all the recruitment the club does is tailored to satisfy a specific strategy from the manager to the playing staff.
Having said that it can be argued that the ones in bold have delivered and can improve whilst Darmian and Schneiderlin can be expected to be valuable squad members, at least. Mourinho has come in and signed players to complement the existing ones and if his signings succeed then next summer we'd need just one or two signings meaning that our spending would have normalized.
Mkhitaryan would have cost closer to £50m if he wasn't in the last year of his contract and in fact maybe even more because they would not have sold him. Raiola didn't get the money Dortmund did.
We will probably have issues with Raiola in the future because he is renowned for being a cnut and getting what his player wants and will go to any lengh and play whatever games to get it done. He would not have pushed Pogba into doing anything that he didn't want to do. He has been critical in the past about agents putting money before their player desires, he isn't someone who push a player to move unless they want to, look at Hemsik could have earned much more buy moving but has wanted to stay a Napoli.
So we've signed the best player in the French League and one of the best players in Italian(almost done) and German League this season. All this without the Champions League.
More or less confirms that it was Ferguson and Gill decision to look for value in market rather than being instructed by Glazers. Such a shame really
It worked for Fergie and Gill.
Fact is the signings since Fergie has left have been poorly mainly. Only Shaw and Martial really you'd think will be mainstays.
Obviously not including this seasons signings. As much as the signings excite me. I'm not going to get too excited yet. I was delighted when we got Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Depay last year and that didn't work out. The less said about Falcao and Di Maria the better.
We found out that the caf doesn't watch football and missed the part where Deschamps played Pogba in his positions but Pogba failed to impress.
Obviously not an indication of his quality though as most of the supposed best players were poor.
A pic of Mou's drawing board, accidentally present in the frame of his daughter's pic of him is doing the rounds. People say Pogba can be seen in the lineup.
Someone please post it so that our experts from the world of Muppetry may scrutinise it.
Someone please post it so that our experts from the world of Muppetry may scrutinise it.
Was posted eons ago and also got its own thread.
You used one of your 5 posts for that?
I expect him to be signed today, probably announced Friday.
K.
Should have checked first...
3 actually, and this is the last one...
According to cds, only an official stamp is left for transfer. Juve wont stand in the way. United Have indicated we will meet their asking price.
Howard Nurse?
I reckon this will be done today.
The best player of the team played in his best position and that's Griezmann. The problem for Pogba is that he hasn't outperformed his competition, has an advanced #8 or on the left side of a flat midfield three.
To make it clear, I said before the competition that France best formation is the 4312, that's why I disagreed with Deschamps selection and like @BBRBB said numerous times (I think that it was BBRBB) Deschamps discriminates the Ligue 1, that's why he didn't used that formation.
Our best team is that one:
-----Benzema-Griezmann
----------Ben Arfa--------
Pogba----Diarra---Kanté
Or
-----Lacazette-Griezmann
-----------Ben Arfa
Matuidi---Mendy---Kanté
But here is the trick, Pogba has never outperformed Matuidi, you can't really justify Pogba over Matuidi if you concentrate on actual performances, Pogba's potential or perceiced talent is completely irrelevant, he needs to prove his worth on the field with the blue jersey. Pogba is great with Juventus, he has mastered their system but he is a tactical nightmare outside of it, he doesn't really think for himself yet, he hasn't matured yet. And that's not a criticism, it will come, he is in the same situation than Kroos at the same age.
Pogba is still on holiday so I strongly doubt it. The most that will happen by today is that we agree a fee. It won't be announced for a fair few days imo.
First bid to test the waters, second bid to get a bit closer to the asking price, third bid the final resolution.
Figure most likely £100M deal could fall through at any stage, Real Madrid could come in with money and sell some players but looking good at this stage.
Figure most likely £100M deal could fall through at any stage, Real Madrid could come in with money and sell some players but looking good at this stage.
I think that's partly down to his agents interference. There's so much hype now and money...that hopefully the motivation to be the best is still there. I'm sure it is, but these agents don't help and I'm almost sure half of what they tell these kids is bullshit.
Have a feeling it will be done in time for the kit launch and woody will flaunt Pogba at the kit launch.
It will actually help us in the long term because it will jack up market inflation and send transfer fees for top players even higher, narrowing the circle of clubs that can actually pay them.
If you're not intelligent enough to understand what I mean, it doesn't mean I misuse terms, it means you've the intellectual complexity of a spoon.Christ! Did I say I know more than them? Did you follow the discussion?
'Irony', 'Parody of yourself' - you don't know how to use them, and I am not here to do the job your High School English failed at. Buzz off.
What a self righteous reply. I see you appear every so often on these boards with ludicrous statements.
Most apt username 2015
Need I say more. Utterly inept.
Predicted a while ago it would be this Friday. If it happens can I claim ITK status
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He didn't play him in his best position though did he? The Pogba of Juve was very different to the one who played for France
That's an interesting theory to be fair.
I would guess United's target is to have Pogba on board for the City match in China. That would be a marketer's dream, wouldn't it. The biggest player making his debut for the most popular club against their biggest rivals in front of the biggest potential audience in the world.
As much as I love Fergie he was increasingly turning into Wenger when it came to transfers. He should have invested big after Ronnie left. Apart from the RVP splurge his dealings were mediocre at best. Also letting Hazard slip to Chelsea because of the agent fee yet spending £7M on Bebe that same summer was a bad sign.
Still this was all masked by his managerial brilliance and wasnt exposed until he retired and Moyes took over.
I'm pretty sure we wouldn't see Pogba on the tour regardless.
Would probably be Ibrah's introduction against Galatasary, and Pogba's intro in the testimonial. Maybe not even then.
There's no chance he's going to play during the pre season.
What is his best position and most importantly can France create the role that he has with Juventus without Juventus's players? The answer is no, Pogba needs to adapt and at the moment he can't. Neymar, Ronaldo or Bale don't play in their best positions for their country but no one blame the manager because we all know that it's not really possible without damaging the teams.
I think 120m include Pogba's salaries and perks.
His wages dont count in the 120m. Thats just the transfer fees. His wages amount to around 13-15m per year.
Its just a pre-season friendly. Wouldnt worry about it too much.