we need to start buying from our local rivals now.
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I think we are definitely improving. Teams were after Schneiderlin last summer and we got that quick and out of the blue and the same this year with Pogba. Going forward we will be getting more and more efficient.
Yea I know, it came from Super Desporte or something. A Valencia paper anyway.
He really didn't. His first post of 'info' was on page 93. Big whoop.
fun and jokes aside, surely we are well stocked in CM after this signing
Yea, may well not be.
I've said a few times though that I certainly think Jose likes him. The very first reports around December/January of Mourinho coming were all 'he is coming in the summer and bringing Andre Gomes with him'. Was a bit of a random name to keep putting in the reports I thought. Being Portuguese, and looking at the calibrate of clubs chasing him this summer, it's clear he is considered quite a big deal within the game, and Jose, being a compatriot may have got in there early and planned to make him part of his project.
He is following the "better late than never" mantra.
fun and jokes aside, surely we are well stocked in CM after this signing
Things can change quickly to be fair. The departures haven't started yet. Gomes and Pogba infront of a defensive midfielder will be something. Gomes is capable of more defensive stuff than he showed in France I believe, although possibly still a bit too open.
Hash says that Goal guy above knows his stuff:
Didnt see Gomes name on the board though.
In fairness we wont be getting him. We need to move along way too many players to fit in just one more player.Sky suspended betting.
About time. All these betting sites are about 24 hours late.
The deal is done. I dont want pointless updates.. Just waiting for the confirmation.
NEVER try and find a link between betting and transfers. The prices change rapidly due to public money flooding the likely destination based on minute-by-minute news. If enough money comes in they will "suspend" it to create buzz. It's an AWFUL system.
hopefully we get a Di MArzio update today to see if the second bid has gone in and was accepted.
I hope he trolls us all by saying we are his dream club and he always wanted to return.
we are a while yet away from confirmation
I always had Manchester in my heart, have many friends here.
A lot of journalists will have a lot to answer for if this doesn't happen now.
It is my personal opinion. I prefer the way Griezman plays his football, the awareness he displays when surrounded by the opposition. The level of pressing he provides for a number 10. The fact that he proved despite a rather slight frame that he is also capable of playing up-top as a lonely false-9.
The fact that he actively contributed to getting his national team and his club team to the final of major competitions. His first touch, decision making, finishing when one on one.
All those elements make him superior to Pogba in an attacking midfield position in my opinion.
There are very few players that I could consider worth 100mil: Lewandoski, Suarez, Messi, CR7, Neymar and Griezman.
I find your reasoning absolutly flawed, and I'd speculate that you spend more time reading about football than watching it.
So let's take this step by step :
- Griezman isn't in a top 11, but just in the uefa 11 for the euros. Pogba isn't. Rojo made the world cup 11, so that shows that this measuring stick is flawed.
- If Griezman isn't amongst the best #10/ strikers / attacking players in the world. Then what does that make Pogba? a player that displays lesser ability/ aggression/ creativity/ passing accuracy/ maturity?
- Pogba is not worth 100mil, but the price is inflated by our nonsensical desperate need to make a marquee signing, compounded by a rather gutteral level of journalism and reporting devoid of critical thinking that essentially consists of being the first to blow a trumpet and the first to throw said trumpet under the bus. Being right, wrong or capable of an objective view point is pretty much immaterial.
- We are talking about over 100 million; a hundred million; 100,000,000 for a player that has proven nothing. It should not take a rocket-scientest to put that figure and what we are getting into context, regardless of who makes these prices.
I do not wish to dampen the expectation and some clear enthusiasm for this signing, but this achieves nothing but setup a marketing coup to show our financial muscle.
Pogba will only truly be rated once competitive football kicks-off again, I hope it goes better for him than the last competitive games he was involved in.
Cheers.
Exactly.
Even Madrid cant always pay some of this prices.
Its good for the English league as it can financially show its financial might.
Tbf, only a couple of random Italian sources have said that the deal is done. The rest, including Di Marzio have only said that things have become concrete.
@Drz I didnt say Griezmann wasnt a top 10 attacking player. I was referring to the discussions in the previous thread about posters talking about players and judging based on them being a top XI player. I didnt he isnt among the best. I said he isnt the best. There is a difference. And you're claiming Pogba hasnt "done anything" but doesnt that apply to Griezmann as well? What has he accomplished so far?
So far, Griezmann has bottled it in two major finals.
I'd get banned if I translate that
Well, he says feck off a lot.
So according to the Juve "tier list" Romeo Agresti would be in the top 3 for transfer rumours.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/tran...ba-after-manchester-united-offer?ICID=HP_BN_1
There is another meeting today, where Juve will demand the 120m euros. Pogba wants to go to MUFC. If Romeo Agresti is somewhat reliable. We could get an answer today.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/tran...ba-after-manchester-united-offer?ICID=HP_BN_1
There is another meeting today, where Juve will demand the 120m euros. Pogba wants to go to MUFC. If Romeo Agresti is somewhat reliable. We could get an answer today.
I keep thinking he is DiMarzio.
A players value is mostly derived from his marketability and not his performances. Obviously players mostly become marketable due to their performances on the pitch but in this case, Pogba is one of the most marketable players in the world and that's why we are talking £100m +. It's no more complex than that really.
Football is a business like everything else, whether we like it or not.
Marca running an article of Pogba pictured smoking an e-cigarette
(borrowed from the sun)
http://www.marca.com/futbol/liga-italiana/2016/07/20/578f3b9a268e3e9b518b4586.html
(borrowed from the sun)
http://www.marca.com/futbol/liga-italiana/2016/07/20/578f3b9a268e3e9b518b4586.html
It's Pog-day.
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
You don't set a new world transfer record in an hour!
Come on, like it's that simple. Plus there is also the discussion of how much upfront, how many months the rest is spread over etc.
They are not negotiating about 10 quid. Big money at stake.
He is the one from team Di Marzio!
It's mostly for show.
So many nitty gritty details to go over in a contract. It aint as simple as they make it seem in Football Manager.