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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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It seems like the official meeting between the 2 clubs is today.

United sent Raiola to table an initial bid of €100m. I think was purely a formality - we expected it to get rejected so we can get the counter-offer.

The counter offer will be met today and an agreement will be reached.

Expect this to be done by this day next week. Depends how long it takes to complete paperwork and technicalities.
 
Romeo Agresti who is one of the most connected Journos for juve says the second meeting will be held today .
 
It would have been ever better if he was classified as home grown. He missed it by a year didnt he?
 
VanGaalEra said:
There was a stat posted earlier in the thread that Pogba wins the ball back in the final third more than any other player in Europe. Or he's in the top 3, something like that.
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Oh really? That's awesome. Did not know he had it in him like that.
Also proof on how deceiving an eye test can be.
 
Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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In which industry does in take hours to sell a £100m asset?
 
Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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Exactly, all they need to do is hit Continue however they need to ensure they save the game.
 
unitedbhoy said:
It seems like the official meeting between the 2 clubs is today.

United sent Raiola to table an initial bid of €100m. I think was purely a formality - we expected it to get rejected so we can get the counter-offer.

The counter offer will be met today and an agreement will be reached.

Expect this to be done by this day next week. Depends how long it takes to complete paperwork and technicalities.
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I think we will hear something tonight as a lot of it will be formalities considering how long we have spent preparing for this deal.
 
Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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I'd like to see you agree a £100m deal in the time you state it should take! A 30 second conversation? I've been stood behind people in McDonald's that take longer than that to decide what to have for dinner....JUST BE PATIENT, we aren't even out of JULY yet on the back of an international tournament year too...things take time.
 
RDCR07 said:
It would have been ever better if he was classified as home grown. He missed it by a year didnt he?
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I thought he was classified as homegrown? He was with us 3 seasons.
 
WPMUFC said:
So according to the Juve "tier list" Romeo Agresti would be in the top 3 for transfer rumours.



http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/tran...ba-after-manchester-united-offer?ICID=HP_BN_1

There is another meeting today, where Juve will demand the 120m euros. Pogba wants to go to MUFC. If Romeo Agresti is somewhat reliable. We could get an answer today.
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After doing a 5 min check, every single journo with any reliability on that list has reported Pogba to United. Just a matter of when...
 
Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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The price was probably agreed in around 10 minutes of the meeting. The rest of the time is the cocaine, hookers and caviar. a 2nd meeting is generally needed to remember what happened.
 
RDCR07 said:
@Drz I didnt say Griezmann wasnt a top 10 attacking player. I was referring to the discussions in the previous thread about posters talking about players and judging based on them being a top XI player. I didnt he isnt among the best. I said he isnt the best. There is a difference. And you're claiming Pogba hasnt "done anything" but doesnt that apply to Griezmann as well? What has he accomplished so far?
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Already answered in that post, he was instrumental in getting his national team and club team to a final.
 
Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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This isn't football manager. The entire process is mostly legal, everything has to be written out, checked, confirmed, agreed to, processed, evaluated then signed.

The Law firm i'm at when it comes to any new deals it's a long & strenuous process of raising paperwork and having it checked and confirmed can take months depending on the size of the deal. Then it needs to be sent other to the other party, that can take 1 day, 1 week, 1 month maybe longer.
Then we need to countersign, from there it's a process of evaluating all the terms and conditions involved and many more steps.

With football you'll need to consider all the personal terms that need to be included, terms from both clubs, sponsorship and image rights of both the club and the player, add-on bonuses & wages, clauses in contract. Agent terms and conditions.

Honestly the fact that it gets turned around as quickly as it does is quite remarkable.
 
Pentame said:
What I really don't get is how the hell it can take several days to settle for a price. It's something that should be doable in a meeting within an hour.
So what happened yesterday? United made a formal offer of ~£85m but Juve said that they want £100m. All that should be done in a 30 second conversation.
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Unfortunately our Woody isn't as hot shot a CEO as you clearly are.
 
vi1lain said:
This isn't football manager. The entire process is mostly legal, everything has to be written out, checked, confirmed, agreed to, processed, evaluated then signed.

The Law firm i'm at when it comes to any new deals it's a long & strenuous process of raising paperwork and having it checked and confirmed can take months depending on the size of the deal. Then it needs to be sent other to the other party, that can take 1 day, 1 week, 1 month maybe longer.
Then we need to countersign, from there it's a process of evaluating all the terms and conditions involved and many more steps.

With football you'll need to consider all the personal terms that need to be included, terms from both clubs, sponsorship and image rights of both the club and the player, add-on bonuses & wages, clauses in contract. Agent terms and conditions.

Honestly the fact that it gets turned around as quickly as it does is quite remarkable.
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I was about to say something like this, but you've done it in a much more succinct and erudite way. Good post.

It's a legal minefield, and it probably takes a big team of lawyers on both sides to sort out quickly.

In fact, here they come now

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Maradona10 said:
Romeo Agresti who is one of the most connected Journos for juve says the second meeting will be held today .
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Yeah but what exact time today? Because if it's not by mid afternoon there will be a meltdown on the caf!
 
I think if we pull this one off, we might have to give Woody some credit on the football side of the job for once.
 
Prodigal7 said:
A players value is mostly derived from his marketability and not his performances. Obviously players mostly become marketable due to their performances on the pitch but in this case, Pogba is one of the most marketable players in the world and that's why we are talking £100m +. It's no more complex than that really.
Football is a business like everything else, whether we like it or not.
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Sure, I'm fine with that definition. But that is pretty much the problem, marketability is probably measured by how many Pogba shirts we could sell, but that is correlated to the "illusion", "love" for Pogba, not his ability to get us winning, or playing good football. I didn't feel we needed to be more marketable as much as I believe we need to perform better.

That said what if Pogba comes in and does a Fellaini, does that throw his marketability out the window?
 
StanleyCupboard said:
I was about to say something like this, but you've done it in a much more succinct and erudite way. Good post.

It's a legal minefield, and it probably takes a big team of lawyers on both sides to sort out quickly.

In fact, here they come now

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That whole episode of them going to broker a deal on our behalf is hilarious :lol:

The quality of their suits should've given them away though.
 
Drz said:
Sure, I'm fine with that definition. But that is pretty much the problem, marketability is probably measured by how many Pogba shirts we could sell, but that is correlated to the "illusion", "love" for Pogba, not his ability to get us winning, or playing good football. I didn't feel we needed to be more marketable as much as I believe we need to perform better.

That said what if Pogba comes in and does a Fellaini, does that throw his marketability out the window?
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What do you mean 'does a fellaini'? If you mean flop?...his marketability would take a small hit but it would I think you are underestimating the player rather then some of us over estimating him
 
United will make a lot of money from Pogba's marketing. After he becomes the world's most expensive player playing in the EPL he will attract lots of sponsors for United and himself and of course United will have about 50% of his image rights.

He's worth about £50 million as a footballer right now but with his potential and marketability it will be a good move for United in the long term.
 
Vialli_92 said:
United will make a lot of money from Pogba's marketing. After he becomes the world's most expensive player playing in the EPL he will attract lots of sponsors for United and himself and of course United will have about 50% of his image rights.

He's worth about £50 million as a footballer right now but with his potential and marketability it will be a good move for United in the long term.
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Yep, this is my stance on the whole thing
 
Drz said:
Sure, I'm fine with that definition. But that is pretty much the problem, marketability is probably measured by how many Pogba shirts we could sell, but that is correlated to the "illusion", "love" for Pogba, not his ability to get us winning, or playing good football. I didn't feel we needed to be more marketable as much as I believe we need to perform better.

That said what if Pogba comes in and does a Fellaini, does that throw his marketability out the window?
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I dunno, Rooney seems to have maintained his marketability despite being poor at football for the last few years.
 
JPRouve said:
That's a meaningless point, he isn't great but it doesn't mean that he did wrong.
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Did he? Playing Gignac ahead of Martial? I have followed Deschamps closely in the past years but in Italy he was meah at best and its quite an easy to lead honestly
 
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