Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies

[Chip]

Maybe don't do that?

Okay, boss. It was just a little rant - and respond to the fact that he's hanging out with Chad Johnson(and that busty "journalist" et al). But then again, as long as it doesn't affect his footballing ability it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Jacky Quacky]

 

[crossy1686]

I'm starting to think that the only thing holding this deal up is the writing of Pogba's statement that will address every single nonsense headline put out by pro Madrid news outlets.

 

[F1D]

link?

https://twitter./IndianRegista/status/757514926403575809

Just add com after the dot, I can't embedd tweets.

 

[WPMUFC]

 

[gulli_G]

How does that make him a better player? David De Gea has been the best keeper in the world for the past three seasons. He hasn't exactly had much success in Europe has he?

Well he was a key catalyst in that success, the stats don't lie, what has Gundogan done recently

 

[AndyJ1985]

I don't really watch Serie A so only really seen bits and pieces of Pogba since he left United

The type of player that he reminds me of is a Steven Gerrard in his prime - dynamically driving forward from the midfield into attack - is this a fair comparison? I hope so, because that sort of player would be fantastic.

I think it's a fair comparison and one I've seen a few people make. Pogba also has the advantage of being bigger and stronger. He has the potential to be an all-round world class midfielder. Which is why opinions like Gundogan is better, or Matuidi is a decent alternative, are utterly bizarre.

 

[Summit]

Same old news. Pogba agreed two weeks ago ffs (apparently).

 

[WPMUFC]

HAHAHAHAHA

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

A more technical version perhaps. Hopefully if we get him, he steps up even more. He's certainly capable if we were to use him properly.

Even better, Gerrard didn't have a great first touch at times, but we have been really lacking a player who drives us forward from the middle

 

[cyberman]

Could have agreed terms in principle - with all parties (Juve, Pogba, Raiola) but not yet signed off because Pogba is still hoping that Real can scrape together the funds (probably needs them to sell James or another player)

But be had to ask to leave Juve for this to go through though.
He hasn't even agreed a deal with Madrid. It makes no sense to me but maybe it's just me.

 

[Summit]

How is this info making you drool?

It is nothing we don't already know ffs

 

[Rory 7]

Well he was a key catalyst in that success, the stats don't lie, what has Gundogan done recently

Signed for city. Not sure I agree with the idea that Pogba was the catalyst for Juve's dominance of Italian football. Buffon breaking the clean sheet record last season for example was a huge part of their story. The previous year Tevez was on fire.

 

[WPMUFC]

How is this info making you drool?

It is nothing we don't already know ffs

when was Riaola's fee confirmed to be done?

 

[saivet]

Hadn't we agreed wages and stuff ages ago? Feels like the same info has been rehashed for weeks.

 

[Summit]

when was Riaola's fee confirmed to be done?

Eh? You were drooling over a tweet that Pogba has agreed terms. He did this apparently a couple of weeks ago. Just same rehashed shite again.

 

[DanClancy]

Look at Juve's accounts, they can't afford to buy Higuain without selling Pogba first. They are a well run club but they can't afford to buy a player for nearly 100m euro's without selling first. They only made a profit in their last accounts because they made a good profit on player sales, wages to turnover is at 66% which is likely to increase again in the 2015/16 accounts.

Juve fans can say what they want but they simply are not in a financial position to sign Higuain whilst keeping Pogba.

 

[Adebesi]

Well to be fair, Juve themselves just paid out 94mil themselves for a 28 year old striker who was surplus to Real just a few years ago. They probably know they're overpaying quite a bit too, but maybe that's what they feel they need to do to win the CL.

I guess in the same way, we're desperate to get back into the game too. Pogba will improve our chances of winning the league a fair bit, and maybe we need to suck it up just this once.

Of course there is ultimately a limit we will not exceed, but Juve probably knows this too. And I think 120+mil is probably the most they can squeeze from us without breaking the deal.

Absolutely. I dont know where it is. But if what Juve are asking is on the other side of the line, I can live with it. The fact that Juve have just spunked a massive amount of money on a player shouldnt mean we feel pressured into doing it. On the contrary, maybe if this is all about brinksmanship this gives us a little of the leverage back. As much as they say they dont need the Pogba money to pay for their transfers, maybe if they sincerely think we will walk away they will relent.

I am not interested in putting a figure on what we should pay, or his fair value. But in the context of the numbers being thrown around, if we walk away I wont be overly disappointed. Mourinho said he had suggested a few options in each position, if we pursue someone else that's fine with me. I also think we have midfielders who are much better than they have shown for us (Herrera, Schneiderlin) and we dont necessarily need Pogba to challenge for the league.

 

[Rooney24]

Its not gonna happen. It would have been done by now. He is going to Madrid I think.

 

[WPMUFC]

Eh? You were drooling over a tweet that Pogba has agreed terms. He did this apparently a couple of weeks ago. Just same rehashed shite again.

i assumed Riaola agreeing pogba's deal/part included his deal because the remaining "juve deal" did not include Riaola's fee.

 

[jojose]

Could have agreed terms in principle - with all parties (Juve, Pogba, Raiola) but not yet signed off because Pogba is still hoping that Real can scrape together the funds (probably needs them to sell James or another player)

I think it is all done and dusted but as per the Bale to Madrid deal, Juve want time to get there replacements in BEFORE the big sale. The way the market is, any selling club will push up the price if they know Juve have £100m burning a hole in their ar$e pocket. Its all PR isn't it? The announce Higuian with a big fan fare, whilst quietly Pogba slips out the back door. Keeps fans and sponsors onside.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Its not gonna happen. It would have been done by now. He is going to Madrid I think.

We haven't even come back from China yet for god sake, people repeating all this crap is so annoying.

If it's not been announced by the time we go to Sweden then yes I will agree it's not looking good.

 

[gulli_G]

Signed for city. Not sure I agree with the idea that Pogba was the catalyst for Juve's dominance of Italian football. Buffon breaking the clean sheet record last season for example was a huge part of their story. The previous year Tevez was on fire.

No one knows the future but Pogba has the potential to be the new Zidane, Gundogan, although a very good box to box player, has had a bad injury record. Mourinhio teams are usually quite good with injury records, Guardiola's recent teams have not been. Take Thiago Alacantra for example. Guardiola blamed his medical staff for such problems but I think his training methods and style of play causes more injuries.

 

[Jacky Quacky]

Its not gonna happen. It would have been done by now. He is going to Madrid I think.

Let the pessimism flow through you.

 

[Bubz27]

I'll delete anything after reply #5

 

[Castia]

Its not gonna happen. It would have been done by now. He is going to Madrid I think.

We're in China and Pogba is in Miami, even if fee's/wages are indeed agreed it wont go through until he's back and took a medical anyway.

 

[djdhrubs]

i assumed Riaola agreeing pogba's deal/part included his deal because the remaining "juve deal" did not include Riaola's fee.

The only thing the various outlets have been consistent about is that we've agreed a deal with Pogba, i.e. his contract/ wages.

Other than that, the various outlets have been yoyo-ing between saying the agent fees need sorting, and the transfer fee to Juve needs sorting. I suspect we'll hear one or the other needs sorting before he suddenly signs one fine day, is decked out in United gear and gives an interview in which he's talking about how it was his dream to return and he never really wanted to leave in the first place!

 

[gulli_G]

This thread seems like GroundPog day, the same cycle just repeats itself. The only thing that will break the cycle will be Juve confirming the deal.

 

[Tincanalley]

It is very relevant. First of all because it hits Paul Scholes as a supporter. The club he loves has lost a player with great potential because he wasn't given space in our team. Paul Scholes may wonder if Pogba would have still left if he remained in retirement + he would be furious with the boy for not fighting for his first team place (these are people who think that Manchester United is the centre of the universe and that anything beyond not succeeding there is a failure).

It also hits him as a SAF's loyal disciple. Believe it or not, PS is SAF's most loyal disciple. Unlike Giggs and Gaz Paul Scholes didn't had any agents. When Moratti enquired about the guy, he ended up speaking with SAF who told him to stick his offer in an inappropriate place. Paul Pogba is the living embodiment of SAF's rare but biggest feckup. We're actually buying our talent back for 100m because the manager (Paul Scholes idol) preferred to stick to his golden oldies (which also include PS) than to this kid. For us, its not really that bad to admit that SAF messed up. He's the single most important person in this club's history but he's still human after all. However these people owe everything to the man, he made them the stars they are now and lead them to multiple victories. Basically they owe him everything and they can't stomach that he might have messed up big time.

Finally it challenges the very concept of the United way. The class of 92 have this romantic view of that period and think that United were lead by some knight in shining armour who would rather lose trophies then not giving youths a chance. Its unthinkable for them that SAF would rather lose a top quality but inexperienced talent and rely on his old guard just to end his career on high. This mentality is ironically highlighted by the Keano-SAF spat which is brilliantly described in one of SAF's books. At one point, Keane looked at SAF and told him that he had changed and he wasn't the man Keano idolised anymore. SAF admitted that he had to change else he wouldn't keep on winning. That is something I believe that the class of 92 have yet to fully comprehend. The SAF who gave them their shot wasn't the same SAF's of Pogba's time.

Wow. Good post.

 

[vanderpants]

I have forgotten how funny twitter can be, one nobody runs with a story then thousands of other nobody's retweet it! Anyway I'm hoping the Wednesday tweet will be reliable as I'm going insane reading the same stories that haven't moved anywhere for over a week now. I do find it strange that Ed and Pogbas agent aren't in Italy

 

[Rory 7]

No one knows the future but Pogba has the potential to be the new Zidane, Gundogan, although a very good box to box player, has had a bad injury record. Mourinhio teams are usually quite good with injury records, Guardiola's recent teams have not been. Take Thiago Alacantra for example. Guardiola blamed his medical staff for such problems but I think his training methods and style of play causes more injuries.

So essentially we are betting 100m on potential? There's just something about re-signing this guy that doesn't sit well with me. And I much prefer box-to-box style midfielders anyway. It seems like people have already found excuses for Pogba not performing when played 'out of position'. If he was all that he would have done much better for France at the euros. I really think this guy is massively overrated.

 

[Nate Dogg]

This thread seems like GroundPog day, the same cycle just repeats itself. The only thing that will break the cycle will be Juve confirming the deal.

Let's hope Wednesday is indeed the day he signs for us so can all move on.

I suspect a few will need to go in to some type of counselling after what has happened over the last 7-10 days.

 

[WPMUFC]

well at least we know why Madrid are out of the race. Finally people will end their daily "madrid panic" routine.

 

[Striker10]

So essentially we are betting 100m on potential? There's just something about re-signing this guy that doesn't sit well with me. And I much prefer box-to-box style midfielders anyway. It seems like people have already found excuses for Pogba not performing when played 'out of position'. If he was all that he would have done much better for France at the euros. I really think this guy is massively overrated.

Trust me you will never see the good side of this deal so it's not worth it.

 

[sunama]

This thread seems like GroundPog day, the same cycle just repeats itself. .

I'm curious. For those who followed the Vidal thread, was it similar?
Or is this Pogba deal/thread at a more advanced stage?

 

[Jacky Quacky]

Really need some information that the fee has been agreed today or tomorrow because It has gotten to that stage where I can't be bother checking every half hour.

 

[Rory 7]

Trust me you will never see the good side of this deal so it's not worth it.

As I said I'll see the good side if we sign him and he turns out as all of you guys expect. I'll be delighted if he does. I want us back on top too. I just don't see it today. And what's more I still don't think he'll sign for us.

 

[Summit]

I'm curious. For those who followed the Vidal thread, was it similar?
Or is this Pogba deal/thread at a more advanced stage?

This one is far more advanced. Di Marzio deleted one tweet about United and City being interested in vidal, but after that he never said a bean.

 

[gulli_G]

I'm curious. For those who followed the Vidal thread, was it similar?
Or is this Pogba deal/thread at a more advanced stage?

Not similar, Vidal thread had Forensic analysis, lip reading, all sorts, Olly was on fire.

 

[djdhrubs]

I'm curious. For those who followed the Vidal thread, was it similar?
Or is this Pogba deal/thread at a more advanced stage?

Way more advanced. We never reached the stage of these details (agent fees, transfer fees, seeing Juve going on a buying spree etc) with Vidal.