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Do you want Pogba for £100 million?

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panz said:
To those who believe that Pogba isn't worth £100M in today's market, what would you want him to do to prove his worth?

Win the PL as a top assistant? Ballon d'Or nominee within the next few years? PL Player of the Season?

Or is it a case of denying that no player is worth £100M?
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For me the problem isn't the money per se. I have said numerous times that I think that we need two CMs and it happens that a number of cms that I considered fit for us have found new clubs. And if I put money into the equation, all the duos went for less than Pogba, in my opinion 100m should get you someone of the level of Pogba+ Krychowiak, not just Pogba.

I will still appreciate Pogba though.
 
Rory 7 said:
I'm being laughed out of town for having the temerity to suggest that Miki might be a 'bit of a punt'. From which I would infer you guys either think I'm crazy, don't watch football and/or (the most likely reason) you all think Miki is going to be a guaranteed 5 star hit the ground running success for United. Am really really delighted you are all so sure of him. Same way as you were all so sure of the 'best player in the Bundesliga' four years ago, I think his name was Kagawa?

Whether or which. The reality is, and this is back to my original point, the money we are prepared to spend on Pogba could be better spent.
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You're being rightfully slagged off for describing Miki as "a bit of a punrt" in the same post where you give the impression that far less established signings by our rivals will be tearing up the league. No signing is a guaranteed success but you should at least try to be even-handed in your criticism.
 
Taxx said:
Imagine if the whole "blah blah"-campaign from Adidas was directed at us all along. And 'don't believe everything you read' was referring to the Pogba to us-connection. :lol: Would be terrible if he decided to stay at this point.
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What i've found odd about the this whole saga, where are the journo's saying there are no deals for pogba? I don't think one outlet or journo has suggested he was staying (which is slightly odd for a transfer like this). You'd think even for clickbait a journo would start making up BS about no deal etc.

Who are these "juve sources" that seem to be so reliable that outlets aren't even hedging their bets.
 
Rory 7 said:
I'm being laughed out of town for having the temerity to suggest that Miki might be a 'bit of a punt'. From which I would infer you guys either think I'm crazy, don't watch football and/or (the most likely reason) you all think Miki is going to be a guaranteed 5 star hit the ground running success for United. Am really really delighted you are all so sure of him. Same way as you were all so sure of the 'best player in the Bundesliga' four years ago, I think his name was Kagawa?

Whether or which. The reality is, and this is back to my original point, the money we are prepared to spend on Pogba could be better spent.
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No, you inferred Sane and Gundogan was good business whereas Mkhi was a punt. Which is outrageously ridiculous that you can't be surprised people are pulling you up on it.
 
VanGaalEra said:
So you're convinced Gundogan and Sane will be better, even though Mkhi out played them in the same league and even in the same team last season.
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I think they could be better signings yes. Sane is has the potential long-term, his value should only go up and Gundongan at his peak was definitely a better player (get him right and he's a hell of a player).

Either way, this thread isn't about Mhki. I'm pleased we signed him and hope he does work out as well as all you guys who don't see the risk. This thread is about the ridiculousness of the Pogba transfer and, by extension, I felt it was only fair to point out how we have spent our budget elsewhere this season while allocating the bulk of it to Pogba.
 
WPMUFC said:
What i've found odd about the this whole saga, where are the journo's saying there are no deals for pogba? I don't think one outlet or journo has suggested he was staying (which is slightly odd for a transfer like this). You'd think even for clickbait a journo would start making up BS about no deal etc.

Who are these "juve sources" that seem to be so reliable that outlets aren't even hedging their bets.
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You're right, I never thought about that. Good point, surely there'd be some speculation on it but there seems to have been almost none at all.
 
Seveneric said:
Credit to the mods tbh. If not for them, I can imagine this thread would be filled with utterly retarded dick jokes and people talking about when they can whip it out and have a wank. It was funny a few years ago when it started, but it's just incredibly droll now. And the try-hard newbs feel like they have to up the stakes in stupidity because they're posting in the mains.

Anyway, he better be signing soon!
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I totally agree I'm a new member myself but I had been a lurker on and off for about 3 year but I find all that homo erotica quite bizarre to be honest it's something I would have found funny when I was like 12 it's just odd
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You're being rightfully slagged off for describing Miki as "a bit of a punrt" in the same post where you give the impression that far less established signings by our rivals will be tearing up the league. No signing is a guaranteed success but you should at least try to be even-handed in your criticism.
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Miki is a punt. In the same way as any signing is a punt. He's probably less of a punt that Gundongan, for example but his signing has less potential upside than Sane. The only reason I even mentioned Miki was to point out how we spent our budget versus the other options out there. To put it another way, for the clearly very very slow on the uptake. Answer me this question, which would be the better use of our transfer spend this summer:

A: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki & Pogba
B: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane & Kante
C: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane & Gundongan

And, potentially, seeing as money is no object at United

D: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane, Kante & Gundongan


I hate to have to point out the bleeding obvious but there you all are...
 
Taxx said:
You're right, I never thought about that. Good point, surely there'd be some speculation on it but there seems to have been almost none at all.
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The only thing I can assume is that it's been Marotta, or someone close to marotta. Don't get me wrong, it's a great sign. However that has probably been the weirdest aspect of the transfer.
 
VanGaalEra said:
No, you inferred Sane and Gundogan was good business whereas Mkhi was a punt. Which is outrageously ridiculous that you can't be surprised people are pulling you up on it.
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How is it 'outrageously ridiculous'? Which player will be worth more in three years time do you think?
 
Rory 7 said:
I think they could be better signings yes. Sane is has the potential long-term, his value should only go up and Gundongan at his peak was definitely a better player (get him right and he's a hell of a player).

Either way, this thread isn't about Mhki. I'm pleased we signed him and hope he does work out as well as all you guys who don't see the risk. This thread is about the ridiculousness of the Pogba transfer and, by extension, I felt it was only fair to point out how we have spent our budget elsewhere this season while allocating the bulk of it to Pogba.
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You are going too far there, you can't complain about people reactions to your posts when you make this type of statement.
 
Taxx said:
Imagine if the whole "blah blah"-campaign from Adidas was directed at us all along. And 'don't believe everything you read' was referring to the Pogba to us-connection. :lol: Would be terrible if he decided to stay at this point.
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I don't think Ed is that stupid, if there's no deal he would have gone out and squash the rumors (directly or indirectly). There's no way we let them sucker punch us like that, and it's not even sucker punch.
 
With the GDS claiming that writing of contracts is holding up the deal, good job that the two clubs didn't try to take this to the deadline day.

Rory 7 said:
Answer me this question, which would be the better use of our transfer spend this summer:
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I don't know much about about Sane, so I would only choose between A,B,D and I would have gone for A without being biased.
 
Rory 7 said:
I think they could be better signings yes. Sane is has the potential long-term, his value should only go up and Gundongan at his peak was definitely a better player (get him right and he's a hell of a player).

Either way, this thread isn't about Mhki. I'm pleased we signed him and hope he does work out as well as all you guys who don't see the risk. This thread is about the ridiculousness of the Pogba transfer and, by extension, I felt it was only fair to point out how we have spent our budget elsewhere this season while allocating the bulk of it to Pogba.
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We could buy Pogba for 100m and still spend another 200m if we wanted to, it's hardly the "bulk" of our transfer budget. We're not struggling for cash.
 
Rory 7 said:
I'm being laughed out of town for having the temerity to suggest that Miki might be a 'bit of a punt'. From which I would infer you guys either think I'm crazy, don't watch football and/or (the most likely reason) you all think Miki is going to be a guaranteed 5 star hit the ground running success for United. Am really really delighted you are all so sure of him. Same way as you were all so sure of the 'best player in the Bundesliga' four years ago, I think his name was Kagawa?

Whether or which. The reality is, and this is back to my original point, the money we are prepared to spend on Pogba could be better spent.
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You're being laughed at because your arguments are stupid. You just may as well say "every player is a punt" But, based on facts City have bought a player with serious injury issues, another who is 21 and has done literally 'nothing' yet you deem that "good business". I just cannot take you seriously, sorry. You don't like people based on their hairstyle for petes sake :lol: How irrational is that?
 
Rory 7 said:
Miki is a punt. In the same way as any signing is a punt. He's probably less of a punt that Gundongan, for example but his signing has less potential upside than Sane. The only reason I even mentioned Miki was to point out how we spent our budget versus the other options out there. To put it another way, for the clearly very very slow on the uptake. Answer me this question, which would be the better use of our transfer spend this summer:

A: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki & Pogba
B: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane & Kante
C: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki & Gundongan

And, potentially, seeing as money is no object at United

D: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Kante & Gundongan


I hate to have to point out the bleeding obvious but there you all are...
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No need to be patronising. I get it. You think the Pogba money could have been better spent. I don't disagree because I think Kante is a terrific player. Pogba's a couple of years younger and obviously bought because Mou thinks he can kick on another level, to become a potential Ballon D'Or winner. II don't think that's out of the question. He's always seemed like not quite the finished article and is performing at a very high level with obvious room for improvement in a lot of elements of his game. I don't see the same potential in Kante. Hence I'm happy with our business.
 
JPRouve said:
You are going too far there, you can't complain about people reactions to your posts when you make this type of statement.
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I think it's a ridiculous transfer. Most on here don't. The thread is to discuss the transfer. I'm discussing it. People's reactions to challenging this transfer are, quite frankly, hilarious.
 
This is the most boring sega I have ever experienced, can they just please announce it so it's stops journalists saying it will be done in the next 24 hours yet nothing ever happens.

He could join Real Madrid at this stage and I wouldn't care, rather he decided his future now
 
Please stop with the mkhi posts. It just gives the mods more unwanted work clearing out these posts.
 
TrueRed79 said:
You're being laughed at because your arguments are stupid. You just may as well say "every player is a punt" But, based on facts City have bought a player with serious injury issues, another who is 21 and has done literally 'nothing' yet you deem that "good business". I just cannot take you seriously, sorry. You don't like people based on their hairstyle for petes sake :lol: How irrational is that?
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It's completely irrational. But at least I'm being honest.
 
Rory 7 said:
I'm being laughed out of town for having the temerity to suggest that Miki might be a 'bit of a punt'. From which I would infer you guys either think I'm crazy, don't watch football and/or (the most likely reason) you all think Miki is going to be a guaranteed 5 star hit the ground running success for United. Am really really delighted you are all so sure of him. Same way as you were all so sure of the 'best player in the Bundesliga' four years ago, I think his name was Kagawa?

Whether or which. The reality is, and this is back to my original point, the money we are prepared to spend on Pogba could be better spent.
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How dare posters question your posts when you are so sure of your own opinion?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah that makes sense. I've just got a bit obsessed with the importance of a good start to Mourinho's career at United. After all the shit he went through at Chelsea and our own annus horribilis with Vangle, I'd say confidence is fairly fragile. If we get a decent start, I can see us going from strength to strength. If we drop points early doors, well, it could get ugly...
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Reasonable concern, but he'll probably only miss a couple of games (including the charity shield) so it shouldn't be too much of a drag.
 
Red Bug said:
What has any of this got to do with Pogba?! Take it to another thread ffs!
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It got everything to do with Pogba. We are discussing if the signing of Pogba for 100m is good business. Is this the new tactic now. As soon as the anti-Pogba argument kicks off again the muppets as to 'move it to another thread'? Fair enough. Maybe you should change the thread title to the "Pogba Muppet Love In" thread.
 
cyberman said:
How dare posters question your posts when you are so sure of your own opinion?
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Amen. You can't argue with unbridled arrogance. Unwillingness to listen to another point of view is why it's impossible arguing with that clueless bloke. God, the stupidity
 
Rory 7 said:
I think they could be better signings yes. Sane is has the potential long-term, his value should only go up and Gundongan at his peak was definitely a better player (get him right and he's a hell of a player).

Either way, this thread isn't about Mhki. I'm pleased we signed him and hope he does work out as well as all you guys who don't see the risk. This thread is about the ridiculousness of the Pogba transfer and, by extension, I felt it was only fair to point out how we have spent our budget elsewhere this season while allocating the bulk of it to Pogba.
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Your argument lacks substance or consistency.

Yes, as you have so philosophically declared, every transfer is a punt, however, or 4 United signings and 3 City signings, you only saw fit to label Mkhitaryan with that description, thus implying the others were of a sure thing. 2 of City's signings came from the same league as Mkhitaryan, and were outperformed by him. He has also cost the joint least of all of these players at £26m, so it isn't like we spent significantly more or him than Sane and Ilkay deals.

You then go on to use Zlatan's age against him, due to the risks that come with that, however, overlooking the risks that also come with Sané's age. Couple that with the fact that Zlat Man was free and Sané was £37m, it makes your logic all the more peculiar.

Bailly is as much a 'raw' or 'unproven' signing as Sane, and financially less of a risk.

Also, in relation to Pogba, we are not signing him instead of buying 3 players like you listed. If so, you may have some point in questioning which is better. We are signing him in addition to 3 other players, who are no less proven or more expensive than City signings.

In summary, you have no fecking point whatsoever.
 
Rory 7 said:
Miki is a punt. In the same way as any signing is a punt. He's probably less of a punt that Gundongan, for example but his signing has less potential upside than Sane. The only reason I even mentioned Miki was to point out how we spent our budget versus the other options out there. To put it another way, for the clearly very very slow on the uptake. Answer me this question, which would be the better use of our transfer spend this summer:

A: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki & Pogba
B: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane & Kante
C: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane & Gundongan

And, potentially, seeing as money is no object at United

D: Zlatan, Bailly, Mhki, Sane, Kante & Gundongan


I hate to have to point out the bleeding obvious but there you all are...
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Definitely A.
 
Rory 7 said:
In summary I have a very clear and consistent point. WE SHOULDN'T SIGN PAUL POGBA.
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Well your supporting arguments, or forwarded rationale, was nonsense or at the very least, without logic.
 
Rory 7 said:
It got everything to do with Pogba. We are discussing if the signing of Pogba for 100m is good business. Is this the new tactic now. As soon as the anti-Pogba argument kicks off again the muppets as to 'move it to another thread'? Fair enough. Maybe you should change the thread title to the "Pogba Muppet Love In" thread.
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You were going on about Mkhitaryan and completely derailing the thread.
 
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