Paul Pogba | Undergoing Medical | Helping out the Laundry Ladies
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Though I'm not saying anything that's controversial. I'm not saying he won't sign, or that he will go to Madrid. Just that if it's a done deal as many believe (and I did not so long ago) then he wouldn't go to training, why would he?
Anyway the quotes here are more positive and training is Monday.
And, speaking at his press conference, Allegri was asked if he had found a replacement for the Frenchman, and replied: “It’s only fair that [Jose] Mourinho should choose not to talk of Pogba as long as he’s a Juventus player. I called up Pogba for tomorrow evening, so he’ll be in Vinovo for training on Monday.
“There’s no point in discussing replacements for Pogba because right now he’s a Juventus player.”
So take your own advice and stop shitting on people's opinion who think it is done.
But what would you want him to say?
"Yes Pogba is going, we're actively looking for replacements now, we'll have someone in the next week or so" If the club hasn't announced anything, then why would Allegri?? Of course he's going to say Pogba is returning for training. Saying he won't would incur a lot of questions and further probing.
He may not have signed, but I bet he fully intends to do so. I am 100% sure his holiday delayed things. I cannot remember who reported it, but it was reported that he wouldn't sign until after the Community Shield, two or more weeks ago. Somebody, clearly had the right contact.
Meanwhile, in positive world..... he will be a United player next week, on that, I am prepared to bet my wife's virginity.
How is this still not announced 
What if they're still writing up contracts tomorrow/fixing details - where do you think Pogba who is expected back at training tomorrow, is going to go? Where do you think he's going to go?....There is no such place as limbo land. If they're still concluding details, not matter how close to a conclusion, he goes training with Juventus. Simple as that.
So when people tell others to be patient. They don't mean until the next time they read something that may offend them.If people cannot leave their fears at the door, then that's their problem.
I still don't want us to sign him. I'll get back you all tomorrow and let you know if there is any change.
MEN article said Juve is holding up the deal while they try to get a replacement player. DiMarzio said the other day it was waiting on Juve's lawyers and the board signatures.
So maybe Juve are getting cold feet at the altar, or maybe they are just buying time for other negotiations before everyone knows they have a big influx of cash.
But regardless, it seems to be in Juve's hands.
So maybe Juve are getting cold feet at the altar, or maybe they are just buying time for other negotiations before everyone knows they have a big influx of cash.
But regardless, it seems to be in Juve's hands.
None of the evidence points to a deal having been completed. There is the word of a journalist that it will be done in 48 hours weeks ago and he also said juve were now after gomes literally a minute before Barcelona announced him, his juve connections really look great there.
Theres an advert that features Pogba, many other clubs and a united fan in stormzy.
Theres a picture of pogba wearing red shoes
Then theres 973 pages of people saying its done over and over again for no reason.
Me pointing out that some of you are chatting absolute bull is only annoying because you don't have a valid response. I have never said he won't sign, or that we haven't been in negotiations, I have pointed out that we haven't signed him, which we haven't. The negativity in this thread is caused by the nonsense being sprouted by people just saying cocks out every time some Italian journalist tweets something shouting down anyone who points out its not true.
They have a direct replacement in Pjanic but they are looking at more squad options like Witsel. But same story with Zenit as with PSG they don't have to sell. So it's hard to negotiate a price with them.
The only good thing that has come from this saga is that we know who are the reliable itk and which ones talk rubbish , and there's more of the later
The only good thing is that we know that our club is super slow in terms of the transfer market
Yeah 4 out of 4 key transfers all done before the league kicks off, what a disgrace
Its one thing buying players from feeder clubs or while heading to the retirement home (Ibra is this year's Bastian) and its another buying a top player from a top club. The latter are more complicated and require more negotiation skills. We should have had this deal done and dusted by now.
Lol I agree with you but one of the deals I am trying to close, while 100% agreed on the contractual fees, just broke down because of legal terms and both parties were not willing to concede... Now we are going to an executive meeting so. In real life it can happen!
exactly
Was it anything more than paper speculation? I was looking at the in and outs for all 20 PL clubs so far, and none of them have massively overpaid to get a player. This PL clubs are loaded and spending shit tons on average players (which I thought too) doesn't hold true, at least so far.
Mane and Sane so far look a bit too much. They could always come good but for now it's a little high. Stones if he goes through is definitely over priced.
judging by the quality & logic of your posts , there can be no doubt left that we should sign him at all costs
I agree with that part. If we are to believe people like Di Marzio we were just as close to signing him a couple of days after the Euro(almost a month ago) as we are now/were a few days ago. Too many on here using Pogba's holiday as an excuse.
So even you admit that the Pogba transfer is much harder to complete than the others?
Well if a deal is agreed it doesn't mean the player is ready to play for his new club. It has to be made official. Then he is ready. Same thing here. A deal could very well be agreed. But until the paperwork and all legal issues are fixed and made official he isn't our player.
This reminds me of the Salas deal which we took ages to decide upon. By the time we decided to finally place a bid his price went up and he headed to Lazio. We're too slow
Why is that some sort of deadline Mou has told you about?
of course I do. Its one thing signing an arrogant has been whose 1-2 years away for the glue factory and its another taking a top guy from a top club. Our club has little experience on these sort of transfers and that inexperience is bloody obvious on this deal. Maybe we should aim for a transfer similar to Ibra. Is Pirlo still available? Pirlo, Bastian, Carrick in midfield and Ibra upfront would have been great 7 years ago
Then it's not an agreed deal, if we're still negotiating payments then it's not an agreed deal, if we haven't agreed on all the details then it's simply not agreed.
Sounds like you really love United and enjoy supporting the club.
Well in that case maybe only Madrid is "experienced". It Has nothing to do with big transfers from big clubs. You going to pull off the biggest transfer in the history of mankind let alone football. It's going to take time with the different clauses, paperwork and legal issues.
If the deal is agreed nothing stops it from being official, paperwork don't take weeks.
Not really. Bayern weren't tortured for Vidal as we're being tortured for Pogba. Barcelona's deal for Suarez was pretty straightforward too. PSG signed ADM in no time
This deal is becoming a bit of a circus. As said maybe we should take the Ibra/Bastian/Carrick route and sign Pirlo. That's the sort of signings we seem good at
This will happen, I've zero doubt, but even I can admit I don't really get how we're still dragging it out this long.
That's possible, but not likely, in my opinion. Juventus have already shown that they can spend big this summer by signing Higuain. You might say that was the Pogba money being spent before they'd even received it, but the point is they aren't exactly skint.
As far as a replacement for Pogba, they have also signed Pjanic, who will fill Pogba's gap in the squad, at least to some extent. I think if they are now looking to spend the money received from the Pogba sale, they'll be looking at other areas of the squad. They may even just sit on that money for the moment - their current squad, even without Pogba, will surely cruise to another Serie A title and compete in the CL too.
I think you are making a very good point here @devilish. This really is new ground for Woodward in particular.
It's because we must respect Pogba's holiday plans. Can't you see that?
We'll see.