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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Could we soon see the introduction of a quota for foreign players in the PL? Would be in keeping with the general trend...
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-37586928

So the UK will argue for a transitional period - say up to five years - in order to negotiate a free trade agreement. During that period the UK would still trade and operate within the single market and accept EU rules.

Why would the UK do so? We thought that that the UK couldn't wait to spread their wings and get their sovereignty back from the evil EU. Also are they suggesting that the same group who refused preliminary talks will accept this?
 
Just face it this out vote is a national disaster which has been exaggerated by the bile spouted by the unelelected May and her cronies.

The pound is now nothing but a political currency and it's going to be driven into the ground.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-37586928

So the UK will argue for a transitional period - say up to five years - in order to negotiate a free trade agreement. During that period the UK would still trade and operate within the single market and accept EU rules.

Why would the UK do so? We thought that that the UK couldn't wait to spread their wings and get their sovereignty back from the evil EU. Also are they suggesting that the same group who refused preliminary talks will accept this?
We don't know what will happen yet. It's just guesswork up to now. I'm sure all the papers will make different guesses at various points over the next year or two.
 
It'll be fine in time. No need to panic.

Seriously why do you think that?

Every single group be it the EU, be it the markets, be it the US, be it traders, be it big business is rejecting the right wing extremism and comment of this govt?

Please explain how it is going to be fine because it clearly isn't?
 
It seems on this board at least the people most worried about Brexit are foreign, or Brits living abroad. This could mean the real Brits are all a bit on the thick side of course, but it is odd. Some of the foreign members are absolutely obsessed with the subject. Always an interesting read though.

About sums it up. The views of those who have first hand experience of UK immigration are pretty much ignored. Why bother letting fact blur rhetoric.
 
About sums it up. The views of those who have first hand experience of UK immigration are pretty much ignored. Why bother letting fact blur rhetoric.

Not entirely true. Businesses and those that benefit from immigration are shouting loudly and getting listened to.

My sector - universities - have direct lines to government departments.

Which really, if you think about it, just underscores the divides which have grown in the UK between communities and groups of people in the last 30 years.

In all likelihood Brexit means I will be out of a job in a few years. Yet that has to be balanced against the people in the UK who would have been out of a job in a few years if we had remained in the EU.

None of this is meant to pass judgment on what you said, by the way. It is more an explanation of why I will be fighting for a soft Brexit and as little change to immigration rules for EU citizens and high skilled migrants to the UK.
 
Not entirely true. Businesses and those that benefit from immigration are shouting loudly and getting listened to.

My sector - universities - have direct lines to government departments.

Which really, if you think about it, just underscores the divides which have grown in the UK between communities and groups of people in the last 30 years.

In all likelihood Brexit means I will be out of a job in a few years. Yet that has to be balanced against the people in the UK who would have been out of a job in a few years if we had remained in the EU.

None of this is meant to pass judgment on what you said, by the way. It is more an explanation of why I will be fighting for a soft Brexit and as little change to immigration rules for EU citizens and high skilled migrants to the UK.

UK people lived and studied in the EU countries before we became integrated into the EU, that won't stop. I think it will be a soft brexit, it's not in the UK's or the EU's interest to do it any other way.
Allowing uncontrolled immigration from the EU is the number one issue, rightly or wrongly.
 
UK people lived and studied in the EU countries before we became integrated into the EU, that won't stop. I think it will be a soft brexit, it's not in the UK's or the EU's interest to do it any other way.
Allowing uncontrolled immigration from the EU is the number one issue, rightly or wrongly.

I much doubt we'll see a soft Brexit
 
I much doubt we'll see a soft Brexit

I disagree, as much as the EU wants to discourage other countries leaving it's not in their best interest to start a trade war. The UK will have to pay some pice to get back control of it's borders and immigration, but it won't be extreme as we import far too much from the EU to make them cut off their nose to spite their face.
 
I disagree, as much as the EU wants to discourage other countries leaving it's not in their best interest to start a trade war. The UK will have to pay some pice to get back control of it's borders and immigration, but it won't be extreme as we import far too much from the EU to make them cut off their nose to spite their face.

The eu is not 1 country but is made of 27 countries all armed with a veto. A big chunk of it barely do any business with the uk and hold their freedom of movement very dearly. Why on earth would they vote against their interest?

Theres a reason why may is flirting with hard brexit and merkel is insisting on the no freedom of movement = no access to the single market ie they both have no choice. The eu is not the uk were scotland and north ireland have no real say in such affair. If a country is not happy by brexit it will use its veto and theres plenty of countries who are not happy losing their freedom of movement
 
Not entirely true. Businesses and those that benefit from immigration are shouting loudly and getting listened to.

My sector - universities - have direct lines to government departments.

Which really, if you think about it, just underscores the divides which have grown in the UK between communities and groups of people in the last 30 years.

In all likelihood Brexit means I will be out of a job in a few years. Yet that has to be balanced against the people in the UK who would have been out of a job in a few years if we had remained in the EU.

None of this is meant to pass judgment on what you said, by the way. It is more an explanation of why I will be fighting for a soft Brexit and as little change to immigration rules for EU citizens and high skilled migrants to the UK.

I feel the same way. After the last two years, I would have been very happy settling in England and settling into a career in the university sector. In about a 6 month period, the chances of that happening have dropped to more or less zero and this whole foreigner job registration thing has dropped right in the middle of me being processed for new jobs. Not interested now.
 
I disagree, as much as the EU wants to discourage other countries leaving it's not in their best interest to start a trade war. The UK will have to pay some pice to get back control of it's borders and immigration, but it won't be extreme as we import far too much from the EU to make them cut off their nose to spite their face.

It totally depends on what the UK wants, if they want to be members of the single market, they will have to pay and accept its rules but if they dont want to be members of the single market we will find tariffs acceptable for both parts maybe 12%-15%.
 
The eu is not 1 country but is made of 27 countries all armed with a veto. A big chunk of it barely do any business with the uk and hold their freedom of movement very dearly. Why on earth would they vote against their interest?

Theres a reason why may is flirting with hard brexit and merkel is insisting on the no freedom of movement = no access to the single market ie they both have bo choice

you really think that the EU will stop trading with the UK?
 
It totally depends on what the UK wants, if they want to be members of the single market, they will have to pay and accept its rules but if they dont want to be members of the single market we will find tariffs acceptable for both parts maybe 12%-15%.

12-15% :lol: That's BMW and AUdi fecked
 
It totally depends on what the UK wants, if they want to be members of the single market, they will have to pay and accept its rules but if they dont want to be members of the single market we will find tariffs acceptable for both parts maybe 12%-15%.
I don't think the UK want to be a member of the single market at all, just have the same access to the single market in the way other countries around the world have access.

Not allowing them access in the same way as others would be a form of discrimination would it not.
 
you really think that the EU will stop trading with the UK?

I think the uk will lose free unrestricted access to the single market and tarriffs on both sides will come to play. We are heading towards a nasty divorce
 
I don't think the UK want to be a member of the single market at all, just have the same access to the single market in the way other countries around the world have access.

Not allowing them access in the same way as others would be a form of discrimination would it not.

That means losing financial passporting and probably the automobile sector
 
12-15% :lol: That's BMW and AUdi fecked

Well, you don't really intend to produce the same quality of cars anytime soon, so Audi and BMW are fine.

I don't think the UK want to be a member of the single market at all, just have the same access to the single market in the way other countries around the world have access.

Not allowing them access in the same way as others would be a form of discrimination would it not.

20% VAT it is then.
 
I think the uk will lose free unrestricted access to the single market and tarriffs on both sides will come to play. We are heading towards a nasty divorce

There will be a relatively small tariff, it's not in either party's interest to do anything else. Please tell me different?
 
There will be a relatively small tariff, it's not in either party's interest to do anything else. Please tell me different?

I'll tell you there won't be, the EU want to cast the UK adrift and believe it or not we aren't a power house, in fact we are nothing.

Take your nationalistic head off and look at the real world.