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Jippy said:
So she's not totally stupid, non-story. Lloyds and Santander report interim results tomorrow and I'm on the 7am stock market shift yay! Barclays on Thursday and RBS on Friday- we should get a bit of an insight on their contingency plans. Please no random RNS announcements on top of those two...I'm looking at max five and a half hours' sleep as it is.
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Starting a new job soon where I'm going to have to be in at 7 every single day. Transitioning to that is going to be an absolute bitch.
 
devilish said:
I do sympathise with your view about history. I would probably do the same if I was English.

What I find ridiculous is that Brexiteers want to leave the EU because Germany rule everybody (which isn't the case) when in reality its what England does with the rest of the UK.
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I thought it was cos of migration

Anyhow, Scotland and wales are constitutional countries
 
Stanley Road said:
They can always vote for independence...........Oh Wait
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If Scotland can carve a good deal with the EU or Northern Ireland can ensure a smooth transition in joining the rest of Ireland then that’s exactly what they should do. I acknowledge that it won’t be easy. As a former colony Malta’s economy was once strategically built in a way to be totally dependent on the English. Once we cut the umbilical cord, we did face a bumpy ride. However these days, we are a successful story, with a great standard of living, ridiculously low unemployment rates and a say in the European fora. There is no master that can force us to leave Europe against our will.

Its ironic how on one hand Westminster say that Brexit is great because you'll get sovreignity back and on the other hand it spend so much effort to keep Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales in the union.
 
Jippy said:
I had a curious conversation with my cleaner yesterday, while working from home- she was complaining that her disability payments for her autistic son were cut cos he was not considered 'disabled enough' a few years ago and Kids Company funded his therapy- she was scathing about Cameron and his role in the charity's demise. Having only read the media coverage of it, it was interesting to hear a different perspective.
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Not sure how representative this is since I only read the Guardian (and only online) but that's pretty much the line they've been pushing for 5+ years: Cameron used his disable son as a prop and then cut disability and the privatised evaluators are super-strict and arbitrary.
 
Nissan To expand car plant in Sunderland after talks with the Govt.
God knows what promises it was given.
 
With the business secretary saying companies like Nissan will have an input in negotiations, the government must be moving mountains to stop companies pulling out.
 
Adisa said:
With the business secretary saying companies like Nissan will have an input in negotiations, the government must be moving mountains to stop companies pulling out.
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The employment of those thousands and the local industrial base is very important. The Government does have it in its power to offer a more beneficial tax arrangement, should we have to leave the single market and negotiate a new European trade deal.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
No talk of the UK economy performing better than predicted?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk
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The ONS revises these figures by an average of 0.7 pp (since 1991). The preliminary estimates for 2008 were growth in the first two quarters, and a contraction in the third. This meant that the discussion in October was "will the UK enter a recession" when we had already been in recession since Q2.

I'm not saying the figures are completely worthless, but they should be published with the average error. e.g. UK economy grew by 0.5% (±0.7) in the last quarter
 
Despite the "good news" today for the UK
"The expansion of the services sector helped to offset the steepest fall in construction since the third quarter of 2012, with a slide in new housebuilding dragging the entire building industry down 1.4% between July and September.

Manufacturing dropped by 1% in the third quarter, while production fell 0.4% and agriculture slipped by 0.7%."

The pound and the FTSE250 have both fallen again today

Only another 4/5 months to the trigger
 
UK set to become the fastest growing economy in the G7 according to the BBC.


We are all doomed I tell you, doomed.
 
Anyone trying to gloat about the economy doing better than expected is just proving their economic ignorance.

Nissan gave been promised subsidies or soft Brexit. The former is ridiculous, the latter anything but taking back control.

As for the economy, in dollars it's already down 20% and most sectors have been reported to be contracting, except for the debt-fueled services sector. All this feels like the top of hill to me and it's only down from here.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
The employment of those thousands and the local industrial base is very important. The Government does have it in its power to offer a more beneficial tax arrangement, should we have to leave the single market and negotiate a new European trade deal.
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Im confused, why would we have to cut taxes to keep firms in this new utopia?
 
Rightnr said:
Anyone trying to gloat about the economy doing better than expected is just proving their economic ignorance.

Nissan gave been promised subsidies or soft Brexit. The former is ridiculous, the latter anything but taking back control.

As for the economy, in dollars it's already down 20% and most sectors have been reported to be contracting, except for the debt-fueled services sector. All this feels like the top of hill to me and it's only down from here.
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If you won the lottery you'd find only dowsides
 
Rightnr said:
Anyone trying to gloat about the economy doing better than expected is just proving their economic ignorance.

Nissan gave been promised subsidies or soft Brexit. The former is ridiculous, the latter anything but taking back control.

As for the economy, in dollars it's already down 20% and most sectors have been reported to be contracting, except for the debt-fueled services sector. All this feels like the top of hill to me and it's only down from here.
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Nissan have been promised something, what could it be, have a feeling that Brexiteers are not going to be happy bunnies.
I don't think it was May's convincing argument that they are going to try for the best deal.

Just as well the UK are self-sufficient so they don't have to import the materials necessary to build the cars
 
If I've got the story right, growth is actually down when compared to the previous quarter, from 0.7% to 0.5%. It was predicted to be worse though, down to 0.3 or even 0.1%.
 
jackofalltrades said:
If I've got the story right, growth is actually down when compared to the previous quarter, from 0.7% to 0.5%. It was predicted to be worse though, down to 0.3 or even 0.1%.
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It was actually predicted that a Brexit vote would lead to an immediate recession.
 
jackofalltrades said:
If I've got the story right, growth is actually down when compared to the previous quarter, from 0.7% to 0.5%. It was predicted to be worse though, down to 0.3 or even 0.1%.
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The 0.1% was predicted by some because they thought the UK would trigger Brexit soon after the referendum as they thought Brexit had a plan. Then it was predicted 0.3% when they realised Brexit didn't have a plan and wouldn't trigger it for some considerable time. The service sector saved the GDP for Q3. With supposedly better figures than expected you would think the pound and the FTSE would have improved, they both dropped.

When and if the UK finally do trigger Article 50 then there will be another hit and when they leave another one.

On the other hand the tooth fairy really does exist.
 
Sometimes I get the impression the some people actually want to see the whole EU and Euro Project collapse, presumably on the understanding that the UK would only be affected in a positive way. There to pick up the pieces and continue the trajectory towards prosperity.
 
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How is that state aid I don't know. I mean this surely breaches WTO and EU rules if they ever have to come good on the promise.

The people that voted Brexit will now rely on others to keep them in a job. What irony.
 
Stanley Road said:
If you won the lottery you'd find only dowsides
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It's all downside with the Nissan deal though, isn't it? It's presumably coming at some sort of cost to the UK that wouldn't have been necessary without Brexit. It's just less of a downside than it could have been.

Hardly akin to winning the lottery. More like getting mugged without getting beaten up too.
 
sullydnl said:
It's all downside with the Nissan deal though, isn't it? It's presumably coming at some sort of cost to the UK that wouldn't have been necessary without Brexit. It's just less of a downside than it could have been.
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A short-term commitment, yes, but one which is good for the economy long term.

On the one hand, people fear of our post-Brexit circumstances; on the other, they would tie our hands behind our back if we attempt to ease the nation's way.
 
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