[K2K]

Michael Owen said something during the Liverpool game that seems to be ringing true.

He mentioned how we could park the bus against most teams,but also added that the challenge was when we faced similar tactics ourselves. We really struggle to break down teams and I don't think it's merely down to bad luck.

I think it will cost us a lot of points especially away from home where we create far less chances.

 

[Cassidy]

Michael Owen said something during the Liverpool game that seems to be ringing true.

He mentioned how we could park the bus against most teams,but also added that the challenge was when we faced similar tactics ourselves. We really struggle to break down teams and I don't think it's merely down to bad luck.

I think it will cost us a lot of points especially away from home where we create far less chances.

We didn't struggle to break them down. We let ourselves down with poor finishing today

 

[utdalltheway]

Not much needs to be said today.

Best attacking game in years. Shit result. Weird, dumb, funny, outrageous, maddening. All of the above.

No more needs to be said.

 

[K2K]

We didn't struggle to break them down. We let ourselves down with poor finishing today

I don't think that's the last we've seen of that this season.

 

[AN17]

Frustrating result. Enough said.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I don't think that's the last we've seen of that this season.

What we needed was someone who is like Gary Lineker, a goal poacher who just gets on the end of anything in the box, not someone who might grab the odd spectacular goal. We need someone who just stays in the box ready to pounce.

 

[Catt]

Michael Owen said something during the Liverpool game that seems to be ringing true.

He mentioned how we could park the bus against most teams,but also added that the challenge was when we faced similar tactics ourselves. We really struggle to break down teams and I don't think it's merely down to bad luck.

I think it will cost us a lot of points especially away from home where we create far less chances.

We didn't fail to break Burnley down. Our finishing was awful. Same with Stoke and Hull. We could have had 5 or 6 today.

 

[cfkane]

A perfect storm, as the saying goes. Those bashing Jose, How many shots on target? Mourinho can't control that. He sent out a team and a formation that should have won, and if the opponent doesn't have a defensive masterclass of a game then we bury them. Instead of slagging off United, give fair play to Burnley. Plenty of games like this happened under SAF. It happens. Ref was awful as well.

 

[K2K]

What we needed was someone who is like Gary Lineker, a goal poacher who just gets on the end of anything in the box, not someone who might grab the odd spectacular goal. We need someone who just stays in the box ready to pounce.

Someone like Chicharito?

 

[Hugh Jass]

Michael Owen said something during the Liverpool game that seems to be ringing true.

He mentioned how we could park the bus against most teams,but also added that the challenge was when we faced similar tactics ourselves. We really struggle to break down teams and I don't think it's merely down to bad luck.

I think it will cost us a lot of points especially away from home where we create far less chances.

If we were to go out and play burnley tomorrow we would beat them 4-0. Pure bad luck we didnt score today.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Someone like Chicharito?

It's really hard to forgive lvg for getting rid of him

Would be easily the most natural goal scorer in our squad

 

[Hugh Jass]

Someone like Chicharito?

Someone like Van Nistelroy.

 

[Jonnymufc]

A bloody frustrating result, obviously. However, LVGs first 10 were also a disaster and we went on and played really quite well in the remaining games.

I see plenty of positives, I think we play some exciting football and when we get the finishing sorted then we'll see more Leicesters and less Stoke/Burnleys.

Chin up, man up, keep fighting.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Someone like Chicharito?

Yes. In hindsight. We all moaned that he didn't do enough apart from scoring, well I wouldn't mind that now.

 

[Giggs86]

Someone like Chicharito?

Would've bagged a hat trick in a game like today.

 

[royboy16]

I can't believe I said Clattenburg was a good referee.

Thought he had a good game bar the Red he gave.

 

[K2K]

We didn't fail to break Burnley down. Our finishing was awful. Same with Stoke and Hull. We could have had 5 or 6 today.

We do tend to end up having lots of fanciful hits from afar. Maybe not in this game or Stoke, but the Europa league games and some of our league games, we really struggle to Create proper chances.

I think our finishing is terrible too though. So on days when we do get chances,we have that to contend with.

 

[Randall Flagg]

A perfect storm, as the saying goes. Those bashing Jose, How many shots on target? Mourinho can't control that. He sent out a team and a formation that should have won, and if the opponent doesn't have a defensive masterclass of a game then we bury them. Instead of slagging off United, give fair play to Burnley. Plenty of games like this happened under SAF. It happens. Ref was awful as well.

Arghhh. I wish people would stop saying that it happened under saf. It was the same last season before lvg became hated

Yes it did, but more often that not it happened when we were top or at least challenging. It was a massive shock when it happened

When it happens when you are languishing in mid table with 1 win in 7 or whatever it is and no goals for 3 league games, it makes it a lot worse....for me anyway

 

[sunama]

What we needed was someone who is like Gary Lineker, a goal poacher ...

Aaaah. That's a 'fox in the box'.
I think Hernandez was exactly that sort of player.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Thought he had a good game bar the Red he gave.

Herrera was unlucky I thought

But for me none of the penalty shouts were pens

 

[Powderfinger]

We do tend to end up having lots of fanciful hits from afar. Maybe not in this game or Stoke, but the Europa league games and some of our league games, we really struggle to Create proper chances.

I think our finishing is terrible too though. So on days when we do get chances,we have that to contend with.

Lots of speculative hits but plenty of good chances as well. Bad finishing today but just really, really bad luck as well. Anytime you have near 3 xG and don't find the net, the football gods are not with you.

 

[darko]

Would've bagged a hat trick in a game like today.

Because he's a better finisher than Ibrahimovic.

 

[sunama]

Someone like Van Nistelroy.

Indeed. Unfortunately, he has long since retired, so is no longer an option.

 

[K2K]

If we were to go out and play burnley tomorrow we would beat them 4-0. Pure bad luck we didnt score today.

People said the same thing against Stoke.Next home league game and we are repeating the same thing.

I don't think our lack of goals is just bad luck.We have some poor finishers in this team. No clinicalness at all

 

[K2K]

Because he's a better finisher than Ibrahimovic.

He is.

Zlatan is the better footballer though.

Inzaghi was argurably a better finisher than Ronaldo,but the latter was a far superior player.

 

[AndyMUFC]

Ridiculous game. Very similar to the Stoke game but even worse in terms of how much we dominated without being able to score. It's certainly not like LVG last season when he was drawing 0-0, we're creating shitloads.

If Zlatan in particular was actually finishing chances at the minute like you'd expect him to, we would've won, but then we can't just rely on one player to score a goal either.

Wasn't a fan of the subs, kept us fairly solid defensively but we had literally no width at all and Rooney and Fellaini just slowed us down.

 

[royboy16]

Herrera was unlucky I thought

But for me none of the penalty shouts were pens

Exactlty,I couldnt see anything else wrong he did in the game that would claim he had a shocker.

 

[Dr. Funkenstein]

What we needed was someone who is like Gary Lineker, a goal poacher who just gets on the end of anything in the box, not someone who might grab the odd spectacular goal. We need someone who just stays in the box ready to pounce.

Than we certainly won't miss this many chances, because we don't get them. It's not allowed to play with 12.

 

[Catt]

We do tend to end up having lots of fanciful hits from afar. Maybe not in this game or Stoke, but the Europa league games and some of our league games, we really struggle to Create proper chances.

I think our finishing is terrible too though. So on days when we do get chances,we have that to contend with.

No teams have chances galore like today or Stoke every game.
Difference from last few years is we seem able to play our way through teams more frequent, so that's a positive to build on.

 

[K2K]

Lots of speculative hits but plenty of good chances as well. Bad finishing today but just really, really bad luck as well. Anytime you have near 3 xG and don't find the net, the football gods are not with you.

I agree.

But I don't think it's purely down to luck.

Don't want to hound him but Zlatan has been missing so many guilt edged opportunities

 

[K2K]

It's really hard to forgive lvg for getting rid of him

Would be easily the most natural goal scorer in our squad

Loved him.

And we only had Rooney as senior striker at the time.

 

[markhrad]

Rashford is not effective on the wing but he is a very good finisher. Zlatan is not finishing well at the moment but he is too skillful/ creative on the ball to drop. I wonder if we could not play Zlatan as a number 10 and rashford up front or try some form of interchanging during the game. Maybe the two of them along with Martial as a front three and let them interchange freely. Its only a matter of time for Martial to regain his form/ confidence.

 

[Catt]

I assume Mourinho didn't speak after the game?

 

[sunama]

Rashford is not effective on the wing but he is a very good finisher. Zlatan is not finishing well at the moment but he is too skillful/ creative on the ball to drop. I wonder if we could not play Zlatan as a number 10 and rashford up front

That's exactly what I said.
In the build up play, Zlatan is absolutely World class. I can't say much about his finishing, though.
So if we play Zlatan as a creative attacker, feeding the ball to Rashford, this could work.

 

[K2K]

Yes. In hindsight. We all moaned that he didn't do enough apart from scoring, well I wouldn't mind that now.

I was livid when he was sold.

Especially when we then played Fellaini as a C.F. against Liverpool in our very next game.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Rashford is not effective on the wing but he is a very good finisher. Zlatan is not finishing well at the moment but he is too skillful/ creative on the ball to drop. I wonder if we could not play Zlatan as a number 10 and rashford up front or try some form of interchanging during the game. Maybe the two of them along with Martial as a front three and let them interchange freely. Its only a matter of time for Martial to regain his form/ confidence.

That could work. Juan cutting in the provide the ammo. We need pace in that No.9 position. Ibra does some good work, but his finishing has been woeful, let him get on with that good work and see if Rashford or Martial when he is fit can score. As long as it's not Wayne.

 

[Deleted member 101472]

It's simple really , 0-0 against a recently promoted team with the team that started the game ( not to mention how much it cost) is unacceptable.

 

[Shark]

I don't even know what to say or what to analyze anymore. Seems like we've rotten luck and I hate saying that because it's exactly what Liverpool have been saying for years.

Ugh.

 

[peridigm]

It's really hard to forgive lvg for getting rid of him

Would be easily the most natural goal scorer in our squad

Agreed. I feel that missed penalty was the last straw. Puts a ton of pressure on a young lad and he misses it. Meanwhile, Rooney does feck all the entire season and he's hailed as one of the greatest player's he's ever managed.

 

[Sarni]

I don't know what we have to do to win.