Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)

Just get all the Labour politicians on strictly and that baking show wherever it may be and the next election is assured.
 
I didn't see anything wrong with that tweet when I first read it, and I still don't. Although I don't know what the third industrial revolution was considered to be.

It's a bit buzzwordy but technologically acceptable and it makes sense.
 
If it had ended at data it would have been passable.
The word salad following that is meaningless.
 
It sounds ridiculous him saying it now because it's not yet a household phrase but Corbyn saying "The internet of things" when we look back in 5 years would be like us laughing at Gordon Brown for highlighting how important "Social Media" will be.

There's currently about 6billion nodes connected that record the world in various ways. Some reckon there could be 30 billion nodes by 2025.

That's a huge amount of valuable data, we'd be very smart to invest in ways to mine it and find use of it.


I realise he's being laughed at for the word soup, just thought his point about IoT should be validated.
 
Pexbo said:
I realise he's being laughed at for the word soup, just thought his point about IoT should be validated.
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Well quite. I've got to attend a course on the 'Internet of things' in a week or two as part of my new job. Thanks to J Dawg for the heads up.

That tweet tho. Wordabix. :nervous:
 
Genuinely dont get whats wrong with that tweet at all. It all makes sense and i assume the context it was his CBI speech?

Are people just finding it funny because they don't understand the terms or what? :confused:
 
Smores said:
Genuinely dont get whats wrong with that tweet at all. It all makes sense and i assume the context it was his CBI speech?

Are people just finding it funny because they don't understand the terms or what? :confused:
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Please explain how the internet of things and big data will help develop cyber physical systems and smart factories?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Please explain how the internet of things and big data will help develop cyber physical systems and smart factories?
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Cyber physical systems is just another word for smart integrated systems, its what's oft referred to when you hear or see the topic of smart cities discussed. The IoT and big data is integral to that for quite obvious reasons as its part of the feedback loop of data.

Mistake here is putting that on twitter where the terms dont fit the audience rather than wherever it was used in the first place.

Here a quick Google and you have a McKinsey article on it using the same buzz speak

http://www.mckinsey.com/business-fu...net-of-things-and-the-future-of-manufacturing
 
Smores said:
Cyber physical systems is just another word for smart integrated systems, its what's oft referred to when you hear or see the topic of smart cities discussed. The IoT and big data is integral to that for quite obvious reasons as its part of the feedback loop of data.

Mistake here is putting that on twitter where the terms dont fit the audience rather than wherever it was used in the first place.
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It's a load of buzzwords cobbled together to make very little sense. Smart factories?! WTF? You can see what whoever wrote that is trying to do. Talking about factories and a new industrial revolution makes people think of jobs being created. Labour values an' all that. Surprised he didn't mention "smart coalmines". Crowbar in a few tech hot topics (even though some of them will do the opposite of creating jobs) and bob's your uncle. A completely meaningless bit of waffle to make grandad Corbyn seem both old school labour and down with the kids.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It's a load of buzzwords cobbled together to make very little sense. Smart factories?! WTF? You can see what whoever wrote that is trying to do. Talking about factories and a new industrial revolution makes people think of jobs being created. Labour values an' all that. Surprised he didn't mention "smart coalmines". Crowbar in a few tech hot topics (even though some of them will do the opposite of creating jobs) and bob's your uncle. A completely meaningless bit of waffle to make grandad Corbyn seem both old school labour and down with the kids.
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Well agree to disagree but the language fits the topic as far as im concerned and he was speaking to business leaders so it even fit the audience.

All thats happend here is people have chirped in to laugh at someone for not having a clue when its themselves who are seemingly ignorrant.
 
We now face the task of creating a new Britain!

"Woo", "Go Corbyn!"

From the Fourth Industrial Revolution!

"Sure!" "Yay, woo!" "When was the third?" "Shut up and cheer, Woo!"

Powered by the internet of things and big data!

"Woo, he's one of us!" "Home automation!" "Big data I am personally less keen on but an happy for it in this context woo!"

"To develop cyber physical systems and smart factories!"

"Woo... wait, what?"
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It's a load of buzzwords cobbled together to make very little sense. Smart factories?! WTF? You can see what whoever wrote that is trying to do. Talking about factories and a new industrial revolution makes people think of jobs being created. Labour values an' all that. Surprised he didn't mention "smart coalmines". Crowbar in a few tech hot topics (even though some of them will do the opposite of creating jobs) and bob's your uncle. A completely meaningless bit of waffle to make grandad Corbyn seem both old school labour and down with the kids.
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We need a Smarthur Scargill
 
Smores said:
Cyber physical systems is just another word for smart integrated systems, its what's oft referred to when you hear or see the topic of smart cities discussed. The IoT and big data is integral to that for quite obvious reasons as its part of the feedback loop of data.

Mistake here is putting that on twitter where the terms dont fit the audience rather than wherever it was used in the first place.

Here a quick Google and you have a McKinsey article on it using the same buzz speak

http://www.mckinsey.com/business-fu...net-of-things-and-the-future-of-manufacturing
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In manufacturing, the potential for cyber-physical systems to improve productivity in the production process and the supply chain is vast. Consider processes that govern themselves, where smart products can take corrective action to avoid damages and where individual parts are automatically replenished. Such technologies already exist and could drive what some German industry leaders call the fourth industrial revolution—following the steam engine, the conveyor belt, and the first phase of IT and automation technology.
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As the article says, this already exists. Everyone get's a tracking number where they can watch their goods move about in real time. Do we think that big companies that rely on components arriving at exactly the right time don't already do this?

Let's talk for a moment about making a car. Making a car is hard. You need thousands of thousands of parts, assembled in exactly the right order. Elon Musk talks about the time when his gigafactory (or what he had before it) slowed to a halt because they ran out of USB cables. The shipment of USB cables was stopped at customs (airfreight) because it was part of a shipment with goods that needed customs clearance. So they had to drive around the California area looking for USB cables, so they could fit these USB cables before finishing the rest of the car. A stupid problem to have, but a problem nonetheless.

Now this might be exactly the type of problem the "4th industrial revolution" will solve, maybe Teslas future systems will find out their is a problem with USB cables, and order them automatically from somewhere else. Great, but is that going to really replace just having a decent stock? Delays happen, and that's always going to be the case... Which brings us onto the next point;
Let’s take container logistics in maritime shipping, which might be considered almost Stone Age in view of what is to come. It will be a tremendous effort to bring container logistics into the next generation of manufacturing.
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Containerised transport isn't going anywhere. It is by far the cheapest and most efficient method of transport goods around the globe.
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You simply can't airfreight all of those goods. Air freighting works when for one or two large items, but it's much more expensive than containerised goods on a nice slow ship.

And when these goods are airfreight-ted or sent via containers they reach whatever port they are going to... and then have customs! More than any other reason, this is why containerization exists. Unlike when Elon Musk had his USB cables delayed, if they had been containerized, they shouldn't have been delayed because of someone elses goods (unless they had been mixed in the same container, entirely possible).

But let's talk about customs. The UK's busiest crossing for lorries are Dover and Folkestone, each doing around 2 million lorries per year. The vast majority of these do not need to stop any customs, because the UK is currently in the single market and the customs union.

If we leave the customs union, as it seems almost certain we will, then every haulage vehicle to and from the EU will need to stop at customs. This is what all the car manufacturers in the UK are afraid of, and why many are thinking of leaving despite the 20% discount brexit has given them. Right now, someone in Munich can buy from Milan or Reading and know their goods will arrive the next day.

And this is why Corbyn is entirely correct to hammer Boris over us leaving the customs union.
 
How much additional funding has Corbyn committed to healthcare, and from where will it be raised?
 
In this year of outsiders in politics, there is one which both Leavers and Remainers can unite against:

 
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James Morris makes some good points with regard to future immigration policy IMO. Neither Corbyn nor the Blairites would be amenable to such a shift though.
 
Len McCuskey as stepped down to trigger a snap election. Could that be a risk and a blow to Corbyn.
 
Yet another good performance at PMQs .Had Theresa May on the back foot and almost had her straining her larynx.
 
With all the recent shite talk of rebranding Corbyn, if someone in his team could just make him watch this



Ok it still might not win you the election but christ at least it's a coherent message.
 
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