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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Member 5225 said:
So if they demand a clean-cutaway then they're 'delusionary and stupid', if they attempt access to the single market (of which most nations on the planet have btw, but let's leave that to a side), then they are 'furiously backpeddling'?
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Well, yes. THey are backpaddling because they realised tit would be stupid to cut clean.

Member 5225 said:
I disagree with the premise of 'stay with the EU and be outward and open' rather than errr....being able to discuss trade terms with other countries around the world!

The EU bloc, in my eyes is the epitome of a protectionist bloc, closed mindedness etc. The project (of transferring cash from bigger nations to smaller poorer ones) is the epitome of socialism (on steroids!), I am philosophically against both, and on top am alarmed (and angry) it came to this via the back door, simples.
Seems many are in the same boat as I.
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Wow :lol:
You realise the Euro is something else then the EU and you never were part of it? You also realise that EU-funded projects in eastern Europe did play a big part in thriving their economy, helping everyone in the long run?
And yes, your boat is full of racist twats who do not even realise getting out of the EU won't change much on immigration. Pakistian and India are in the EU right?
 
fcbforever said:
Well, yes. THey are backpaddling because they realised tit would be stupid to cut clean.



Wow :lol:
You realise the Euro is something else then the EU and you never were part of it? You also realise that EU-funded projects in eastern Europe did play a big part in thriving their economy, helping everyone in the long run?
And yes, your boat is full of racist twats who do not even realise getting out of the EU won't change much on immigration. Pakistian and India are in the EU right?
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Cheers for the sarcastic smiley mate - when did I mention the Euro again?
 
The funny thing is that the UK is an EU successful story. Prior to its entrance in the EU the UK was Europe's sick person. Now its a financial powerhouse. Is the EU perfect? Of course not. But if the UK voter want a bigger say in Europe than they should stop sending poorly educated Ukipers who are among the laziest MEPs in Europe and who keeps taken the mickey out of everybody (unless of course they are punching one another). If the UK voter wants more fairness and are pissed off about banks then they should stop electing the rich people/banker's party in government. Its that simple
 
Member 5225 said:
Don't worry we are going, we've voted out....minor detail that many seem to want to forget! ;)
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Well what's you're waiting for.

However don't be crossed if the EU sticks to its No FOM no unrestricted access to the single market. The Tory party is used to have the cake and eat it. However Europe is not the UK. ;)
 
devilish said:
The funny thing is that the UK is an EU successful story. Prior to its entrance in the EU the UK was Europe's sick person. Now its a financial powerhouse. Is the EU perfect? Of course not. But if the UK voter want a bigger say in Europe than they should stop sending poorly educated Ukipers who are among the laziest MEPs in Europe and who keeps taken the mickey out of everybody (unless of course they are punching one another). If the UK voter wants more fairness and are pissed off about banks then they should stop electing the rich people/banker's party in government. Its that simple
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Post-truth season, I get it.
I disagree wholeheartedly with the premise mate. And certainly don't think the UK has been saved due to the EU!
 
devilish said:
Well what's you're waiting for.

However don't be crossed if the EU sticks to its No FOM no unrestricted access to the single market. The Tory party is used to have the cake and eat it. However Europe is not the UK. ;)
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Oh now they want to meddle in HOW and WHEN we play our cards? Triggering article50 is a decision/action taken ONLY by the nation involved, when they are ready (done their work behind the scenes).

I know this concept may be hard for some brainwashed to grasp...!

We're clearly not in a rush, why are you (EU)? Never learn!
 
Member 5225 said:
Post-truth season, I get it.
I disagree wholeheartedly with the premise mate. And certainly don't think the UK has been saved due to the EU!
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No one is saying that. However the UK's situation improved radically thanks to the EU. No wonder why Brexiteers are now backpeddling furiously while Europe is as cool as a cucumber. Europe isn't the one losing the most out of this. Isn't it true that the UK is better off now then when it joined Europe?
 
devilish said:
The funny thing is that the UK is an EU successful story. Prior to its entrance in the EU the UK was Europe's sick person. Now its a financial powerhouse. Is the EU perfect? Of course not. But if the UK voter want a bigger say in Europe than they should stop sending poorly educated Ukipers who are among the laziest MEPs in Europe and who keeps taken the mickey out of everybody (unless of course they are punching one another). If the UK voter wants more fairness and are pissed off about banks then they should stop electing the rich people/banker's party in government. Its that simple
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That's pretty silly tbh and I'm a "remoaner"
 
devilish said:
No one is saying that. However the UK's situation improved radically thanks to the EU. No wonder why Brexiteers are now backpeddling furiously while Europe is as cool as a cucumber. Europe isn't the one losing the most out of this
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But how can you say that as a fact mate? Who knows if it might've been even BETTER by not being part of the EU? (Thank God we didn't get close to the dreaded Euro).
 
Member 5225 said:
Oh now they want to meddle in HOW and WHEN we play our cards? Triggering article50 is a decision/action taken ONLY by the nation involved, when they are ready (done their work behind the scenes).

I know this concept may be hard for some brainwashed to grasp...!

We're clearly not in a rush, why are you (EU)? Never learn!
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But wait, weren't you desperate to leave this corrupt organisation whose red tape was dragging you down from ruling the waves? Its only fair for us to think that you couldn't wait to leave. Instead you're still here, speaking about compromises who were the reason why you left and speaking about cliff edges.
 
Pexbo said:
That's pretty silly tbh and I'm a "remoaner"
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Which one is silly? Do you think that the UK benefited by poorly educated Ukipers who diverted the money they earned to their Leave campaign? Does the working class benefited from years under Tory Rule?
 
Member 5225 said:
Eh? We don't pay into their coffers then? Sorry my bad if that is the case....
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Brexiteers in a nutshell.
No, the bailouts were done by the Eurozone countries.

Member 5225 said:
Oh now they want to meddle in HOW and WHEN we play our cards? Triggering article50 is a decision/action taken ONLY by the nation involved, when they are ready (done their work behind the scenes).

I know this concept may be hard for some brainwashed to grasp...!

We're clearly not in a rush, why are you (EU)? Never learn!
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I wouldn't be surprised if it actually never happens.
 
devilish said:
But wait, weren't you desperate to leave this corrupt organisation whose red tape was dragging you down from ruling the waves? Its only fair for us to think that you couldn't wait to leave. Instead you're still here, speaking about compromises who were the reason why you left and speaking about cliff edges.
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We all have to deal with despots and dictators, you see.
We're working out how best to play our hand to suit us best for the next 20/50/100+ years - these things take time and need consensus building, it's called being in control of your own destiny...
 
Member 5225 said:
Oh now they want to meddle in HOW and WHEN we play our cards? Triggering article50 is a decision/action taken ONLY by the nation involved, when they are ready (done their work behind the scenes).
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The UK hasn't triggered article 50 for one simple reason, they are absolutely shitting their pants.

The EU states on the other hand just want the whole thing over and done with.

You can try putting your own "spin" on it but the above is the pure & simple truth. My guess, the UK is so fecking terrified it'll do everything in it's power for an EEA deal.
 
Member 5225 said:
But how can you say that as a fact mate? Who knows if it might've been even BETTER by not being part of the EU? (Thank God we didn't get close to the dreaded Euro).
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If you think so, please, leave. Just trigger article 50 and leave. No one is stopping you from doing that.
 
Member 5225 said:
We all have to deal with despots and dictators, you see.
We're working out how best to play our hand to suit us best for the next 20/50/100+ years - these things take time and need consensus building, it's called being in control of your own destiny...
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We've got so much to learn from democracy especially since the third most voted party in the UK ended, with, erm, a seat in parliament.

Seriously you thought the EU will bow down to your demands and it didn't happen. Now you're scared shit of pushing the button as you know that you know Europe more then Europe wants you.
 
devilish said:
Which one is silly? Do you think that the UK benefited by poorly educated Ukipers who diverted the money they earned to their Leave campaign? Does the working class benefited from years under Tory Rule?
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The idea that the UK was somehow a poor country in Europe before joining the EU in the 70's.
 
Pexbo said:
The idea that the UK was somehow a poor country in Europe before joining the EU in the 70's.
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It wasn't a poor country but its much wealthier now then it was before.
 
devilish said:
If the EU is lead by dictators and despots then surely you can't wait to leave and build a future of democracy. Your system is such great in that. Ukip was the third most voted party in the UK and got, erm, a seat in parliament.

Seriously you thought the EU will bow down to your demands and it didn't happen. Now you're scared shit of pushing the button as you know that you know Europe more then Europe wants you.
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It's like being married to a murderer and your friends saying 'just leave' - well I have to think about the kids ala it's not as simple as that and you know it.
Perhaps you'd rather the UK rush into, make a rash decision/negotiation and regret it rather than do it in a systematic and intelligent way thereby increasing likelihood of success for the nation; it's ok I get it.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
I think the poster in fairness was talking about the bailouts in the Eurozone rather than market access payments.

Amazing that you think the UK should have access to things all over Europe but not share the wealth with those countries :lol:
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The poster was responding to me, so I'm in control about what the topic was thank you very much! heh
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
The UK hasn't triggered article 50 for one simple reason, they are absolutely shitting their pants.

The EU states on the other hand just want the whole thing over and done with.

You can try putting your own "spin" on it but the above is the pure & simple truth. My guess, the UK is so fecking terrified it'll do everything in it's power for an EEA deal.
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exactly

The EU can't wait to have all these clowns out. Will Europe struggle with the UK leaving? Sure it will. However we'll better off having an enemy as a competitor then an enemy within
 
devilish said:
exactly

The EU can't wait to have all these clowns out. Will Europe struggle with the UK leaving? Sure it will. However we'll better off having an enemy as a competitor then an enemy within
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Austria, France, Holland etc say hi!
 
Member 5225 said:
Perhaps you'd rather the UK rush into, make a rash decision/negotiation and regret it rather than do it in a systematic and intelligent way thereby increasing likelihood of success for the nation; it's ok I get it.
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Erm.. @Paz that's the thing though isn't it?

The negotiations will take 2 years and cannot start taking place until after that is triggered? Hardly "rash".
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Erm.. @Paz that's the thing though isn't it?

The negotiations will take 2 years and cannot start taking place until after that is triggered? Hardly "rash".
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Err pre-work pre negotiating I mean. I can't believe people who cannot understand the concept of working out a strategy before heading out into the field is even a thing.

Against Jose Mourinho and coaching training sessions and teamtalks too are we?!
 
Member 5225 said:
Err pre-work pre negotiating I mean. I can't believe dim-souls who cannot understand the concept of working out a strategy before heading out into the field is even a thing.
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Hang on... this is the same government who are appealing a court ruling on discussing this "strategy" in parliament is it not?

As I say, they aren't waiting for that reason, the wait is because they are terrified. You'll see, it'll be an EEA deal the government push for in the end & the wait will all be about calming public opinion and re-educating the public before then.
 
Member 5225 said:
It's like being married to a murderer and your friends saying 'just leave' - well I have to think about the kids ala it's not as simple as that and you know it.
Perhaps you'd rather the UK rush into, make a rash decision/negotiation and regret it rather than do it in a systematic and intelligent way thereby increasing likelihood of success for the nation; it's ok I get it.
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The EU is likened to a murderer....funny coming from a nation whose proud of once leading one of the most violent empires ever

If I am married to a murderer I would pick the children and flee quickly. I will also make sure you to sever all links with the person. The ones whose hesitating is not the EU but the UK. They want you to leave quickly and they would kick you out if they can. Oh wait, I get the analogy of the murderer now. Its not the EU right? ;)
 
Member 5225 said:
For someone who is so wrong, am astounded (but not completely surprised) by the arrogance.

Anyways back to school we go:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budget_of_the_European_Union
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Member 5225 said:
The poster was responding to me, so I'm in control about what the topic was thank you very much! heh
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I know you now want to get people to forget that, but we were talking about Euro and the money transferring/bailouts that happened because of it. And no, the UK didn't pay anything there. Anyways, point proven.
 
fcbforever said:
I know you now want to get people to forget that, but we were talking about Euro and the money transferring/bailouts that happened because of it. And no, the UK didn't pay anything there. Anyways, point proven.
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What?! Quote me mate and I'll apologise. :)
 
devilish said:
The EU is likened to a murderer....funny coming from a nation whose proud of once leading one of the most violent empires ever

If I am married to a murderer I would pick the children and flee quickly. I will also make sure you to sever all links with the person. The ones whose hesitating is not the EU but the UK. They want you to leave quickly and they would kick you out if they can. Oh wait, I get the analogy of the murderer now. Its not the EU right? ;)
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That would be a bad move -where would you live, what will you feed the kids, what about your joint bank account, what about the house and car?

I feel like the world in your mind is very simplistic, if I may say so mate.
 
Member 5225 said:
Err pre-work pre negotiating I mean. I can't believe people who cannot understand the concept of working out a strategy before heading out into the field is even a thing.

Against Jose Mourinho and coaching training sessions and teamtalks too are we?!
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Oh I see. So all those silly gaffes like saying that one can conduct trade deals from individual EU countries and offering jumbo trade deals to countries who can't accept them were all part of a strategy? Same as all the talk about having control over the borders and not paying in the single market?

It makes sense. The ones being duped is the thick Bre-idiot.;) Thanks for the enlightement
 
Ps this is tiring, I should get a medal for being the lone fighter against the tide!
Where are the other Brexiteers FFS! heh :)
 
Member 5225 said:
That would be a bad move -where would you live, what will you feed the kids, what about your joint bank account, what about the house and car?

I feel like the world in your mind is very simplistic, if I may say so mate.
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But the UK is rich. Its a powerhouse and everyone would be desperate to get a deal with it right? Why beg for a deal with a murderer when you can just leave and be safe?
 
devilish said:
But the UK is rich. Its a powerhouse and everyone would be desperate to get a deal with it right? Why beg for a deal with a murderer when you can just leave and be safe?
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Cos it's my stuff, I am not saying the murder isn't powerful and influential, atleast to my kids.
It's complicated and would be odd to just run onto the pitch for a CL final without training and a teamtalk especially when it is our right to do so.
 
Member 5225 said:
Ps this is tiring, I should get a medal for being the lone fighter against the tide!
Where are the other Brexiteers FFS! heh :)
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Nah you're making the likes of Davis and Boris proud. Seriously, you brought a tear in my eye. I know understand what the likes of Guy Verhofstadt feel
 
Member 5225 said:
Cos it's my stuff, I am not saying the murder isn't powerful and influential, atleast to my kids.
It's complicated and would be odd to just run onto the pitch for a CL final without training and a teamtalk especially when it is our right to do so.
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Not really. The single market isn't yours remember? You left. 2 years after the UK had triggered Article 50 then you're out and you'll be free from all the red tape and the single market. Unless you're constant begging for an extension is heard of course.

Seriously mate, you couldn't even find a Brexiter with enough IQ to be a prime minister. Instead you're retorted to a remainer. Meanwhile Mr Brexit was spotted in Germany's embassy few days after Brexit
 
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