David Moyes | West Ham in talks with him for managerial job

I genuinely think the United job has broken him.

One of the things I liked of Moyes at Everton was his ability to front up and he developed a group of players who matched that determination.

He was out of his depth at Old Trafford and he strikes me now as someone who can't let it go hence shows insecurity often. All these quotes sound like some sort of defence mechanism to avoid admitting his failure.
 
The psychological aspect of it is quite similar to a woman desperately defending her strongbow drinking and wife beater wearing abusive husband.

I think it is some sort of defence mechanism, just trying to cope.

"quite similar"?? I think that's a quite flattering comparison. It's far worse in my world.
 
This is the character "Death" from the Supernatural series, he was the one that came to reap your soul and deliver the message upon your demise and death.

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Moyes is every bit as inspirational as him.
 
Time for a last big payday in China I think.
Imagine Mopes trying to learn Chinese after the learning Spanish debacle.

We can look forward to gems like:
"We need to aspire to be as good as Tianjin Teda"
"We are going to make it difficult for Liaoning Whowin to beat us"
"We put in 70+ crosses, if the players were a bit taller..."
 
He always came across as relatively humble and devoid of bullshit when he was Everton boss and doing a decent job.

The baffling thing is his arrogance and smugness seems to have increased with each terrible job he does at a different club. It's a rare thing for someones ego to get bigger the more they constantly fail.
 
Imagine Mopes trying to learn Chinese after the learning Spanish debacle.

We can look forward to gems like:
"We need to aspire to be as good as Tianjin Teda"
"We are going to make it difficult for Liaoning Whowin to beat us"
"We put in 70+ crosses, if the players were a bit taller..."
  • Will I was supposed to take Shan Huanhuan off after 20 minutes, but if I did that everyone would be saying 'what you doing'
 
He always came across as relatively humble and devoid of bullshit when he was Everton boss and doing a decent job.

The baffling thing is his arrogance and smugness seems to have increased with each terrible job he does at a different club. It's a rare thing for someones ego to get bigger the more they constantly fail.

I said similar above. It can only be a defence mechanism.
 
But you can't really blame him for leaving when a big club finally came calling.
Maybe there was only one road out of Everton too.
 
Sunderland are shite - no mistake about it. However, Moyes gives them no chance in fighting the expected relegation. Miserable and about as motivational as Dot Cotton.

As great philosopher Hugh Laurie once said, he's sorrow in a suit.
 
Some Sunderland fans are incredibly defensive regarding Moyes, reminds me of a few United supporters when he was here.

Probably a minority. Most of the posts earlier in the thread seemed to suggest that the majority were against him from the start.
 
He always came across as relatively humble and devoid of bullshit when he was Everton boss and doing a decent job.

The baffling thing is his arrogance and smugness seems to have increased with each terrible job he does at a different club. It's a rare thing for someones ego to get bigger the more they constantly fail.

this entirely
 
It's safe to say they won't qualify for CL. That's a shame cause he's a CL calibre manager.
 
He spent almost £30 million on players and brought in 8 new faces in the summer and Sunderland are worse this year than last year.

In fairness the Sunderland job is a poisoned chalice but who could ever forget - 81 crosses at home to the bottom of the table club Fulham when you have Rooney, Mata, Chicharito and Van Persie up front shows how shockingly unbelievably amazingly out of his depth he was not to mention we couldn't even beat Fulham that day.
 
Can't deny I take pleasure in his miserable failure. What a complete tool he is.
 
Complete idiot.

He always came across as relatively humble and devoid of bullshit when he was Everton boss and doing a decent job.

The baffling thing is his arrogance and smugness seems to have increased with each terrible job he does at a different club. It's a rare thing for someones ego to get bigger the more they constantly fail.

I agree.
 
His transfers are just dreadful. Being at Everton for so long probably stunted his development in this regard (among other things). When you tailor your habits around upper-mid table mediocrity with the aim of occasionally punching for top 4, it eventually engulfs you.

I wonder how he'd have turned out had he leave the blue Scousers around 05 for Spurs or abroad. Probably not that much better but it'd avail him better for the sort of job like Sunderland.
 
I sometimes wonder how long he would've lasted at Everyon had he never left. He was doing a solid job there, nothing special, but alright. Had they started to become more ambitious, it might've been the end of him regardless. But I also could've seen him stay there for 15 to 20 years in total.

I think the United job also broke him. He's become incredibly insecure since failing mightily with us and I'm pretty sure it's affecting his managing abilities. Knowledge wise, he's most likely a bang average coach, in today's PL probably a bit below. But without any confidence and a very defensive attitude, he only ends up being a very average manager.
 
Sunderland fans feeling the Moyes after only 35 mins today apparently (as per motd).. I guess the owner won't want to sack him as they've no money, so they will have to endure his relentless dourness for a little while yet
 
Im sorry but I think it's really petty, vindictive and small of people to come on here and criticise Moyes all the time.

It is fun though.
 
I'm no fan of Moyes but this squad of his is really terrible. Only Hull look as weak on paper, but at least they have an honest group of workers. Sunderland have been on life support for a good while now and it was always going to catch up with them at some point, Moyes or no Moyes.

Moyes signed Djilobodji, McNair, Love, Manquilo and N'dong.

All those signings have been shit. All Moyes had to do was get the defence right as Sunderland have a 15 goal striker which the other teams around them don't have.
 

I joined this forum because of Moyes and what he was doing to MUFC.
Everybody around me kept saying, "give him time". I was thinking, "the more time we give him, the further down he will take us".
This forum was mental therapy, to combat the frustration of nobody agreeing with me that Moyes was not the man.

That link you posted, is basically me, 3 years ago

We are a shambles and we're sinking fat, but instead of putting the interests of our club first you'd rather suck David Moyes off because you care more about that gormless knob head than you do about the club you're supposed to love.

I completely understand how the OP of that thread feels, but if you keep reading the thread, you will see that virtually every reply is in defence of Moyes. :wenger:
 
Im sorry but I think it's really petty, vindictive and small of people to come on here and criticise Moyes all the time.

It is fun though.

I had a major retort ready for you...then I noticed the white text. :lol:
 
I still remember Sunderland fans doing the poznan after Aguero scored that late winner to win the league

You're all welcome for David Moyes
 
I completely understand how the OP of that thread feels, but if you keep reading the thread, you will see that virtually every reply is in defence of Moyes. :wenger:

I don't think they're defending Moyes per se. Their gripe is mainly with the owner Ellis Short. They seem resigned to their fate but they understand/acknowledge that Moyes came in with a shite team and no money. A bit of realism you might say. That being said, he should be doing better. Even Hull who are arguably in a worse predicament are giving it a go.
 
I don't think they're defending Moyes per se. Their gripe is mainly with the owner Ellis Short. They seem resigned to their fate but they understand/acknowledge that Moyes came in with a shite team and no money. A bit of realism you might say. That being said, he should be doing better. Even Hull who are arguably in a worse predicament are giving it a go.

£40m is no money?