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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Yeah, you know what, we'll just move. Lifes easy, why complain about Brexit? They can just buy elsewhere. Easy

I never said it would be easy. It'll increase costs, which will ultimately hit the poorest hardest. Remember them? The ones you pretend to give a shit about
 
Obviously May's speech was in large part aimed at setting the tone for negotiations (i.e. we want to cooperate but we won't balk at just walking away), but it seems clear that she has taken the referendum as a mandate to leave without any EEA or Swiss-style quasi-membership.

As a remainer, I find it incredible that rights as a shareholder or bondholder in a company are protected by supermajority vote requirements for major issues but, as citizen, the country can change course irreversibly and disregard 40 years of history on the basis of 51.9%.

Especially when the campaign itself was a bit of a joke, with a PM who couldn't deflect the blame from immigration because it meant taking responsibility for his own failings, and a Leave campaign which made false claims regarding the NHS funding.
 
So, the UK, Canada, the USA, New Zealand and Australia it is. Is this a move towards creating an "Anglosphere" ?
 
The press across the EU are now ripping into May over her speech. Thanks Theresa, this really makes us U.K. citizens living in EU countries feel much more secure, you ridiculous Little Englander mannequin of a human being.

Go home!
 
So, the UK, Canada, the USA, New Zealand and Australia it is. Is this a move towards creating an "Anglosphere" ?

What I find bizarre about any supposed 'Anglosphere' if it's to happen is that if we genuinely aim to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands (which has often been the government's target), then any so-called Anglosphere would fly in the face of that.

Under Cameron (and May as Home Sec) we had control of non-EU migration but didn't seek to reduce it - presumably any reduction in immigration would have to come across the board, and thus also in these supposed Anglosphere countries.

I'm all fine for us to have a good relationship with said countries, and I'm happy to celebrate our history and shared culture with them, but I see no reason as to why relations with the US, Canada and Australia should be given priority over major European countries like France or Germany.
 
Check the internet. Major papers in Spain and Germany so far. I haven't heard about the French ones yet, but I can't see them taking Johnsons 'punishment beating' comments very well.

Not to mention the WW2 movie comparisons, however tongue in cheek they may have been.
 
On much worse terms than the EU. Us Brits will be signing all sorts of deals once we are out, but from a position of desperation and necessity and political expediency
Where's your evidence of that? Seems the uk got better deals than some with the eu
 
What I find bizarre about any supposed 'Anglosphere' if it's to happen is that if we genuinely aim to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands (which has often been the government's target), then any so-called Anglosphere would fly in the face of that.

Under Cameron (and May as Home Sec) we had control of non-EU migration but didn't seek to reduce it - presumably any reduction in immigration would have to come across the board, and thus also in these supposed Anglosphere countries.

I'm all fine for us to have a good relationship with said countries, and I'm happy to celebrate our history and shared culture with them, but I see no reason as to why relations with the US, Canada and Australia should be given priority over major European countries like France or Germany.

Because all those complaints about 'immigration' have never had a damn thing to do with immigrants per se. As long as they're white native English speakers, there's never a problem.
 
course she is frightened of losing the city thats obvious!
but saying she didn't go in saying i expect free trade while no free movement. course she said i want a custom deal, she wasn't gonna go in and say hey we will take whatever deal you want us too that would be daft, but their is a difference between saying hey i'd like to find a balanced deal that helps all sides as much as possible and having your cake and eating it.
Im not a May supporter and i would never vote for her in a million years, but she didn't go give a speech saying i want my cake an eat it.

She stated she wants no ECJ, no FOM no contributions, unless she is willing to back down on all three, there is very little to discuss
 
Check the internet. Major papers in Spain and Germany so far. I haven't heard about the French ones yet, but I can't see them taking Johnsons 'punishment beating' comments very well.
You said thanks to May nownyou say Boris. Which is it?
 
Check the internet. Major papers in Spain and Germany so far. I haven't heard about the French ones yet, but I can't see them taking Johnsons 'punishment beating' comments very well.

For the moment they seem not care Xi, Biden and Russia are the main subject. They reported comments from Germany and Belgium though.
 
You said thanks to May nownyou say Boris. Which is it?

Johnson is an idiot, and in isolation his babblings might get waved away as typical Boris. When the PM is behaving like a damn moron too however, it just cements our fast developing reputation as a nation of delusional xenophobes.
 
She stated she wants no ECJ, no FOM no contributions, unless she is willing to back down on all three, there is very little to discuss

According to Verhofstadt the UK asked for no tarrifs and to be included in some EU projects. So if he isn't lying there is plenty to discuss.
 
Johnson is an idiot, and in isolation his babblings might get waved away as typical Boris. When the PM is behaving like a damn moron too however, it just cements our fast developing reputation as a nation of delusional xenophobes.

not a word here
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Johnson is an idiot, and in isolation his babblings might get waved away as typical Boris. When the PM is behaving like a damn moron too however, it just cements our fast developing reputation as a nation of delusional xenophobes.
Johnson was liked by a few on the caf. Check his thread out. It may surprise you
 
Johnson was liked by a few on the caf. Check his thread out. It may surprise you

I liked him as an MP and entertainer who didn't have the power to actually do anything of any importance. I didn't however expect anyone to be stupid enough to make him the U.K. Foreign Secretary. Then again this is truly the decade of political parody.
 
I liked him as an MP and entertainer who didn't have the power to actually do anything of any importance. I didn't however expect anyone to be stupid enough to make him the U.K. Foreign Secretary. Then again this is truly the decade of political parody.

Really? I always thought he was a dickhead and yet remain campers are hanging on his every word. why?
 
Countries like Malta and the Isle of Man have also established differentiated tax regimes offering almost zero tax rates on profits distributed by parent companies and giving a great advantage to non-resident multinationals.

If its good enuff for Malta...

small countries
 
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And thats ok for Junck to do but not may?

Its not about what May can do but whether the uk economy can be turned into a tax haven. Luxembourg and malta has a small economy with few citizens (less then half a million). 2% of a multinational company taxes will raise its gdp.The uk economy is far too big and complex to be sustained as a tax haven.
 
Because all those complaints about 'immigration' have never had a damn thing to do with immigrants per se. As long as they're white native English speakers, there's never a problem.

Mostly, yeah. For what it's worth I have no problem with seeking to reduce net immigration numbers if people feel they're too high, and I do think there should be a responsibility for anyone moving to a new country to aim to learn the language to a conversational level, and to be completely fluent if they're working in a field which requires use of language a lot. But if our plan is just to replace EU immigrants with Commonwealth ones then...well, it seems quite backwards. Especially when people coming from a lot of EU countries are often already fluent in English, often professionals moving here for work.
 
Obviously the collective 500 million that all want the same chocolate bar. But they dont

Almost as if that 500 million is being listened to in equal measure, each with their own views and voices being heard...this being something the UK will no longer have now we're on the outside if the EU try to push further reforms that don't suit us.:smirk:
 
Its not about what May can do but whether the uk economy can be turned into a tax haven. Luxembourg and malta has a small economy with few citizens (less then half a million). 2% of a multinational company taxes will raise its gdp.The uk economy is far too big and complex to be sustained as a tax haven.

So it was never a moral issue with you but one of execution?