Lescott. Dear me. Moyes may as well dig a hole in inside the Stadium of Light and throw himself in.
David Moyes | West Ham in talks with him for managerial job
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He'd have done the same at United - he's recruiting Moyes-loyalists, not players who'll improve the club he happens to be managing at the time.
Indeed. It;s great when pundits use having lots of experience of being in a relegation battle as a positive. Why are they always in a relegation battle to begin with? Because they're too shit to achieve anything better.Couple of genuine questions for any of the stat Lords in here. I've tried searching both, but I can't figure it out...
1. Since Moyes took over, how much have Sunderland spent compared to other low-spenders?
2. Out of all the players he's signed at Sunderland, how many are ex-players of his?
Hope someone can help.
1. Since Moyes took over, how much have Sunderland spent compared to other low-spenders?
2. Out of all the players he's signed at Sunderland, how many are ex-players of his?
Hope someone can help.
I hope he doesn't get sacked and takes Sunderland down
He spent 26m I think. 13m on ndong 8m on djilobodji and 5.5 on McNair and love. Last year Sam and advocaat spent 40m on players I think. 26m by advocaat and 14m by Sam.
The second one he signed Anichebe Pienaar Januzaj and lescott. Not sure if Donald love and McNair can be classified as former players but them both from United. He spent no money on the first 4 as januzaj was a loan and others were free agents. 5.5m on love plus McNair put together.
Also they were consistently in the relegation zone (mostly 20th or 19th) last season till matchday 28. I'm sure the stats for the previous season would be similar. This situation is Sunderland 101 more than Moyes.
Swansea this season spent about 35-40m (but their net spend would be close to 0 since they sold ayew Eder and Williams)
Hull city also bought for close to 20-25m I think.
Crystal palace bought for 62m but also had major sales in dwight Gayle and Bolasie.
Watford bought for about 50m themselves but net spend would be about 25m I guess.
Hull city also bought for close to 20-25m I think.
Crystal palace bought for 62m but also had major sales in dwight Gayle and Bolasie.
Watford bought for about 50m themselves but net spend would be about 25m I guess.
Haha, yes.
Yes he is, he's finished and completely threw in the towel at Villa last season. O'Shea and Brown still had something to offer for them. It's a shocking signing.
£26M is the net spend, they spent close to £32m in the summer.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sunderland-afc/transfers/verein/289
What better way to tell Patrick Van Aanholt and Papy Djilobodji to 'play like Jagielka', then bring in the actual Phil Jagielka
I thought we'd established that net spend is irrelevant?
Rumours that Sunderland are in for Darron Gibson and Brian Oviedo as well.
I hope he gives the "Messi" bloke a chance to play for his team even though he had beaten Messi's team comprehensively during his time in La Liga.
If they get either of them, look for Chelsea to make a last second splash in the market to send a statement that they're still in the title hunt
He's after Robbie Keane as well as Lescott. They'd be great in the club museum but I can't see them doing much on the pitch.
Lescott, Gibson and Robbie Keane, jesus is he trying to get relegated.
Don't think he cares if Sunderland goes down...
Yeah at this point i think he would be happy enough getting the sack and another pay off.
I really believe that's why he's hanging on.
Someone on the RTG forum called him a 'serotonin thief'
He's just too depressing sounding
Me too.
I really believe that's why he's hanging on.
Someone on the RTG forum called him a 'serotonin thief'
He's just too depressing sounding
I'm starting to realise why he has the wrinkly face of an 75 year old. He lives in an enthusiasm vacuum and the deep grooves in his face tell the sorry tale.
I like to think there's a reverse Dorian Gray type portrait of moyes in his attic, displaying a fantasy moyes full of boyish charm. Every ounce of goodwill and joy he saps from the world is transferred into this majestic portrait of a beaming jubilant moyes with a face that could make hearts melt and contracts last 6 years.
I imagine Tony Hibbert is sat watching his phone waiting for it to ring
Poor Davey.
A couple of their fans also think he's still sulking over his United exit... seriously, that's no way to live if it's true..
In fairness, the rumour seems to be that he'll have to sell at least one player (Van Aanholt, probably) and with that he'll be able to bring in a few low cost signings to try get them over the line (Neil Taylor was mentioned this morning). Whatever his faults, I really don't think he'd be looking at the likes of Lescott if he had any other choice. If someone said to you that you've got £3m odd, who could you get that might score goals in the PL at that price (and who would be willing to join)? I wouldn't know where to start,
I suspect there's an interesting story to come out when he leaves about what he was promised versus what he ended up being given.
Could have had Sean Goss for half a mil.
That part might be his own doing though. Basically saying they are in a relegation battle before the season (or a game or two in)
Then saying the people he are getting in wont make a difference. So when he then comes to you, you will likely say F Off (unless desperate or an OAP).
Who's he? Was he in Bros?
I think that'll always be a chip on his shoulder. In some ways, I wonder if United fecked him over more than he did us.
Poor Davey.
A couple of their fans also think he's still sulking over his United exit... seriously, that's no way to live if it's true..
It probably did hurt him badly but I think more than anything it simply exposed him.
He cruised at Everton, taking in a huge salary and showing feck all ambition. What you've seen from him since Everton shows a bloke who bought into his own hype.
The fact that he stayed there so long despite the financial limitations (excluding his salary) should have been a red flag for United. If he had been United material, he would have jumped ship at Goodison many years earlier to test himself at a club where he could genuinely challenge for trophies. So, either no one wanted him or he was comfortable stagnating in his high salary, low expectation zone. When he ventured out into the big wide world (because Fergie told him to), he was horribly exposed with his limited horizons.
Not sure I agree that he should have left Everton to test himself elsewhere, but he should certainly have achieved more at Everton during his time there for him to be considered good enough to manage us. Either way he was clearly out of his depth and should have never been given a job he was massively under qualified for.
Surviving relegation is more about tactical, teamwork, hardwork, ethics, and less about players quality imho.
Put mourinho/pep/conte at Sunderland with zero money they'd still survive relegation.
You'd probably need a good back 4 and nick a win or two to get to the safety line, not easy but it's not rocket science for a manager who really knows what they're doing
Put mourinho/pep/conte at Sunderland with zero money they'd still survive relegation.
You'd probably need a good back 4 and nick a win or two to get to the safety line, not easy but it's not rocket science for a manager who really knows what they're doing
Can you think of other elite managers who stayed at the same level for so long? Ignoring those who start at the top like Guardiola and Zidane, they all go from one stepping stone to another (Mourinho,Ancelotti, Klopp, even Fergie himself). I agree though that, if he was a "special one", he would have achieved something more tangible at Everton.
I never bought into the Moyes hype, I knew it would be a disaster from the start. All the talk about him succeeding SAF in the years before he retired, it was my worst nightmare come true.
Couldn't be more correct about him cruising at Everton. There were plenty of bigger jobs which came up whilst he was there and he was never considered for any of them.
Couldn't be more correct about him cruising at Everton. There were plenty of bigger jobs which came up whilst he was there and he was never considered for any of them.