Chelsea 2016/17 - Very Content

Treble_Winning said:
The days of Chelsea splurging on big name signings are over. That was a thing of the past. They have become almost as miserly as Arsenal and seem to now be a selling club (along with their policy of hoarding youngsters).

Instead of signing proven reinforcements to their shaky defence, they have chosen to recall Nathan Ake who wasn't even a regular first team player at Bournemouth - he was only starting to break into the team.

They have also been signing mediocre dross like Djilobodji, Miazga and Michael Hector only to not use them and send them immediately out on loan.

I would not be surprised if Matic fancies a reunion with Jose at UTD and Fabregas is the next big name to move to China for a monster payday. And before you know it, Hazard will fancy a move to Real Madrid or Barcelona. Who will they sign then?

Who is benefitting from these huge profits if it isn't reinvested into players? Is Roman paying out dividends to get back the money he invested 10 years ago?
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In all fairness though they sold Djilobodji for £8m to Sunderland after a minute's football. lol.. That is insane. Chelsea are not a selling club, they're just sensible with cash now, they have over £100m extra per yr to spend on players. Dont forget Azpi cost £7m - best one on one defender in the league. Cahill cost 7m. Luiz was 40 odd in both moves and he is now a very good CB in this system.

We are fine ones to talk about wasting money and not reinforcing a side. Or whatever

Matic, Costa, Hazard and Fabregas will never ever play for Mourinho again. Bet my house on it. They had many sly digs at him after he left, pretty obvious they werent overly keen on him in the end.

They are sitting on £60m and with European football more or less guaranteed, they could in theory go sign Isco, or Vidal, or Pastore etc, but they seem to want to see what they have in the academy first. And if i was Conte id be using Musonda as after seeing him for Betis, he is going to be the business
 
Ola Aina snapchatted himself and mate Alex Iwobi dancing late at night. A couple of the older players had some advice...
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duffer said:
Ola Aina snapchatted himself and mate Alex Iwobi dancing late at night. A couple of the older players had some advice...
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the difference between an elite mentality and an elitist one
 
Weird fact

Chelsea have the exact same amount of Home wins, draws and losses AND the exact same Away wins, draws and losses too as United had at this stage in Fergies last season. (And therefore obviously the same overall points)
 
So, Conte has said he's looking to sign a few players this window.

We'll probably bring in a replacement for Begovic but I've no idea who else. If Ivanovic is going back to Russia we'll probably need cover at the back.
 
duffer said:
So, Conte has said he's looking to sign a few players this window.

We'll probably bring in a replacement for Begovic but I've no idea who else. If Ivanovic is going back to Russia we'll probably need cover at the back.
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Can't see us signing anyone personally. I say we save our money for the summer when players aren't overpriced (by normal standards) and the great ones are actually available.
 
They look vulnerable in that area between the full backs and centre halves?

Masses of space tonight on their left hand side. I think United will do them at OT.
 
TheReligion said:
They look vulnerable in that area between the full backs and centre halves?

Masses of space tonight on their left hand side. I think United will do them at OT.
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Feel like sometimes Conte has no plan B. Mourinho could potentially exploit our weaknesses if we dont address them.
 
First banana skin out the way, 3 points against Arsenal and I'm going to start believing we have the title in the bag.
 
AshfordLad said:
Burnley away is looking very very tough though. No relief till we win that game.

Its only as done as it was for dippers in 2014.
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There is no Aguero or City hunting you down with a record of 104 goals for the season. It's nothing like 2014. It's closer to Leicester season than that.
 
Theafonis said:
Feel like sometimes Conte has no plan B. Mourinho could potentially exploit our weaknesses if we dont address them.
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Disagree personally-on multiple occasions during this run Conte has gone to 4 at the back, he's gone to 3-5-2, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing Zouma on as a substitute late in games soon though, as that ball from our left flank to the RWB/RCB area is a vulnerability.
 
Theafonis said:
Feel like sometimes Conte has no plan B. Mourinho could potentially exploit our weaknesses if we dont address them.
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Our Plan B is Cesc Fabregas and he's been brilliant every time he's come on. Really, he should be Plan A against every small team we play. Runs the game and dominates with his passing. He was better in 10 minutes today than Matic was in 90.
 
Dumbstar said:
There is no Aguero or City hunting you down with a record of 104 goals for the season. It's nothing like 2014. It's closer to Leicester season than that.
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Ok. My point was that its not sealed at all (i.e. as much as it was for you in 2014)

And that 104 record is Chelsea's form 2010.
 
Orc said:
Our Plan B is Cesc Fabregas and he's been brilliant every time he's come on. Really, he should be Plan A against every small team we play. Runs the game and dominates with his passing. He was better in 10 minutes today than Matic was in 90.
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In fairness though, Liverpool were tired by then. He may well have struggled with that early high energy press.
 
Kentonio said:
In fairness though, Liverpool were tired by then. He may well have struggled with that early high energy press.
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True. I wish Conte would switch it up every now and then and start with the 3-5-2. Surround Cesc with both Matic and Kante which would allow him time and space to ping in around.
 
Orc said:
True. I wish Conte would switch it up every now and then and start with the 3-5-2. Surround Cesc with both Matic and Kante which would allow him time and space to ping in around.
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Needs pedro for the goals. Hazard isn't enough of a killer. Fabregas is essentially his backup right now
 
giorno said:
Needs pedro for the goals. Hazard isn't enough of a killer. Fabregas is essentially his backup right now
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Imagine an Alexis or Griezmann type of player next to Costa. It would allow us to play in Fabregas. Although we'd need much more dynamic wing backs to compensate for lack of forward wingers.
 
They are going to win the league easily, sooner than other leagues called one horse championship. Lets see how Conte prepares them for Europe next season, and if they will match the Spanish teams, Bayern, Juve and PSG.
 
SCP said:
Lets see how Conte prepares them for Europe next season, and if they will match the Spanish teams, Bayern, Juve and PSG.
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Juventus were underwhelming in the CL under Conte. They got knocked out in the group stage in 2013-14. It's rumoured that Conte got depressed when Allegri made the CL final in his first season.

I wonder if Conte will have learned from his mistakes at Juventus and do better with Chelsea in the CL.
 
Theafonis said:
Imagine an Alexis or Griezmann type of player next to Costa. It would allow us to play in Fabregas. Although we'd need much more dynamic wing backs to compensate for lack of forward wingers.
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Alexis would be Conte's wet dream, yes. And yeah, you'd need better wingbacks, but i think hazard works better in that team than fabregas anyways
 
Infordin said:
Juventus were underwhelming in the CL under Conte. They got knocked out in the group stage in 2013-14. It's rumoured that Conte got depressed when Allegri made the CL final in his first season.

I wonder if Conte will have learned from his mistakes at Juventus and do better with Chelsea in the CL.
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Well...first season he got the to the QF and lost to bayern

Second season...yeah the results were underwhelming, the performances, less so. They drew 1-1 in denmark in a game in which they had like 50 shots on target(most from inside the box) to 1. Against galatasaray, they gifted them 2 goals. Didn't deserve to lose at the bernabeu and got a draw at home. Final game in turkey was such a unique case, playing on a completely frozen pitch and everything...was missing pirlo, too, played pogba in his position and pogba was at fault for gala's goal...

It's in the EL against benfica that he fecked up. Mind, they should have won in Portugal, too. Not Conte's fault his players coulnd't finish to save their lives in europe that season...
 
I don't see this set up working in Europe. I think the one he used in Juve was better suited to Europe and they still failed. Just to weak in midfield to go up against the giants of football. Spurs, City and Pool have made them look mediocre for large parts of matches and those teams arent a patch on a bayern, madrid or barca.
 
RooneyLegend said:
I don't see this set up working in Europe. I think the one he used in Juve was better suited to Europe and they still failed. Just to weak in midfield to go up against the giants of football. Spurs, City and Pool have made them look mediocre for large parts of matches and those teams arent a patch on a bayern, madrid or barca.
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There will be a lot of changes made in the summer and a lot of money spent. We certainly won't see this same team in the CL next season.
 
Away games against top teams in the PL are a good benchmark for Conte's possible attitude in the CL next year, he needs a compromise between robotic control (suiting leagues aka marathons) and free flair (suiting single-match tournaments). Retracing after 60 minutes in order to protect a lead or an away draw is very risky against quality opponents.
 
RooneyLegend said:
I don't see this set up working in Europe. I think the one he used in Juve was better suited to Europe and they still failed. Just to weak in midfield to go up against the giants of football. Spurs, City and Pool have made them look mediocre for large parts of matches and those teams arent a patch on a bayern, madrid or barca.
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He'll probably be looking to upgrade over Cahill, Matic, both wingbacks positions, and if possible Pedro as well, in the summer

I mean, atletico madrid got to two CL finals on the strength of their defensive organization, with a couple potential game-winners and a cannibal up-top. He's got the defensive organization, at least one potential game winner(hazard) and a cannibal up top(diego costa). All he needs is better players for defence and midfield
 
giorno said:
He'll probably be looking to upgrade over Cahill, Matic, both wingbacks positions, and if possible Pedro as well, in the summer

I mean, atletico madrid got to two CL finals on the strength of their defensive organization, with a couple potential game-winners and a cannibal up-top. He's got the defensive organization, at least one potential game winner(hazard) and a cannibal up top(diego costa). All he needs is better players for defence and midfield
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Atletico uses a different set up even though the team is also based on defensive solidarity.
 
Orc said:
There will be a lot of changes made in the summer and a lot of money spent. We certainly won't see this same team in the CL next season.
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I just don't see a 3-4-3 working in Europe regardless of personnel.
 
RooneyLegend said:
I just don't see a 3-4-3 working in Europe regardless of personnel.
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Worked pretty well for pep at barcelona. Formations in the modern day are meaningless, the game's too physical, formations are fluid. It's all up to personnel. If you played a "343" with bonucci-hummels-david luiz-kimmich-vidal-kroos-marcelo-messi-suarez-neymar, you're probably gonna win the CL, don't you think?
 
RooneyLegend said:
I just don't see a 3-4-3 working in Europe regardless of personnel.
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Well the system is made for the counter. And you have someone coaching you now who has had some success in Europe with counter-attacking football.
 
RooneyLegend said:
I don't see this set up working in Europe. I think the one he used in Juve was better suited to Europe and they still failed. Just to weak in midfield to go up against the giants of football. Spurs, City and Pool have made them look mediocre for large parts of matches and those teams arent a patch on a bayern, madrid or barca.
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Correct. This current team wont make far in europe but this team is still not a finished article. I can see us upgrading Alonso, Cahill, Matic and possibly Pedro. With most of those positions upgraded this team will back among the big boys next season.
 
AshfordLad said:
Correct. This current team wont make far in europe but this team is still not a finished article. I can see us upgrading Alonso, Cahill, Matic and possibly Pedro. With most of those positions upgraded this team will back among the big boys next season.
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Also "this can't work in Europe" is bollocks. Pep won 2 CLs with 3 at the back. Before this season there was a "this can't work in the PL" narrative as well. Just let the man work.
 
AshfordLad said:
Correct. This current team wont make far in europe but this team is still not a finished article. I can see us upgrading Alonso, Cahill, Matic and possibly Pedro. With most of those positions upgraded this team will back among the big boys next season.
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Were there any indications lately that Christensen and Kenedy (if fit) might get a chance to become challengers for Cahill's and Alonso's place? Or do you expect Chelsea to buy finished players instead?

(Edit: Oh, and I forgot that Zouma is there, too.)
 
Synco said:
Were there any indications lately that Christensen and Kenedy (if fit) might get a chance to become challengers for Cahill's and Alonso's place? Or do you expect Chelsea to buy finished players instead?

(Edit: Oh, and I forgot that Zouma is there, too.)
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If Jose was our boss, I would certainly said we would buy new players. Seriously hope though Conte gives a proper chance to Chistensen, Zouma and Ake. Even on thw wings we are stacked right now with Musonda, Kennedy etc. Infact Kennedy and Ake can easily cover for LWB too and should start ahead of Alonso. We need a good RWB tho and keep Moses as a cover for RW and RWB.
 
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