Should Wenger be sacked?

Should Arsenal sack Wenger


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Gotta admit that Sky click-baited that pretty nicely, he didn’t really say that in the article.
Yeah the headline drew me in and then I realised he didn't even say that.
He should walk though, the cycle that they've been in for years is utterly pointless.

. “You have Tottenham, everyone is in the fight and everyone is behind their team. We have to do exactly the same,
You mean he didn't say that? Because every paper I've seen has printed that he did.
 
Arsenal fans are behind the team but a considerable portion aren't behind him. Of course he won't point that out though.
 
Being behind the team and wanting a change in manager are not the same thing. I think Wenger is drawing a BS comparison here to make himself out to be a victim when he's just not living up to the expectations of supporters who pay the highest ticket prices in Europe and yet haven't sniffed a title in years.
 
I genuinely think he is one of the most overrated managers. He brought a great style of play to the PL but since the early success I genuinely don't think he has achieved anything that warrants his unwavering support and the idea he is a great manager.

Arsenal are a massive club in England, they have money, their Net spend is always just behind Man Utd/Man City and I just don't buy the 'working on a budget/new stadium' chat. PS Leicester won the league on a shoestring compared to Arsenal.

20+ years at the club. No major trophy for over almost 15yrs

We sacked LVG even when he won the FA cup which is ruthless but a clear message of where we expect to be. Arsenal seem to have an ingrained mentality that top 4 is the aim and anything more is a bonus.
 
He also mentioned every other top team as well, so technically yes, but for some reason they left those other clubs out in the headline.
Because the other teams are unimportant to the story. If he said be more like Spurs, City, Chelsea and Liverpool. The only thing that would stand out to a Arsenal fan who hates Spurs would be the bit about Spurs. Their brain would get past, "BE LIKE SPURS. ARE YOU SERIOUS? The rest would be gone while still trying to process that bit.
The thing is he has been there long enough to understand the antipathy between Arsenal and Spurs. He should understand that this would rile up the fans who already have started to turn on him. It had to be a way of getting his own back.
 
It's tricky. The way I see it - if Arsenal fire Wenger, they could easily end up like we did with Moyes. Over the last 10 years, when I have looked at Arsenal, I kept thinking: if they get 2-3 key players in - they will win it. But of course with Wenger that never happened. For instance the lack of a decent goalkeeper before Cech.

But I don't see it anymore. They have a good side of course, but looking at this Arsenal-side - how many real quality players do they have ? If we are nice - we can give them Koscielny, Bellerin, Sanchez and maybe 1-2 more. But the problem is that a lot of their key players aren't 20-22 years anymore - they are 28-32.

Cech turns 35 in may, Sanchez 28, Özil 28, Cazorla 32, Koscielny 31, Walcott turns 28 in march, Monreal turns 31 in a few weeks, Giroud 30

We are not talking 2-3 players anymore - we could easily be talking about a complete transformation. And if they don't get the right man for the job - Arsenal could struggle.

So am I impressed with Wenger ? No - not over the last 3-4 years where I feel Arsenal have gone the wrong way - but they should be absolutely certain they can get the right man for the job if they let Wenger go. As it stands now - Arsenal could easily quickly move in the wrong direction unless the right person comes in
It's a risk we have to take. You had just won the title when Ferguson left. It's a completely different situation to us.
 

I think it will be his last. Simeone might be available, maybe allegri,tuchel and luis enrique.
 
It's a risk we have to take. You had just won the title when Ferguson left. It's a completely different situation to us.

It's not even a massive risk. Big clubs who fall outside the top four often get in again before long: Chelsea will almost certainly win the league after finishing 10th, United can still compete despite the last few years and Liverpool almost won the title in 13/14 after four years out of the top four places. With a good manager and good squad, it's not hard for a big club like Arsenal to regain a top four spot if they have a poor season and finish 6th.
 
Wenger is like an old shoe to some of the younger fans. The once fresh style is now outdated, holes at the back are more and more visible and the soul is wearing out. But they are still more comfortable than contemplating getting a new pair of trainers.
 
It's up to Wenger when he leaves Arsenal, and due to him not signing another 1 year contract yet I think he's going.
 
IMO its the opposite of a dream job, as its always extra tough to be a legend successor and you must have instant success, otherwise everything will be compared all the time and you must have a very strong mindset for that.

What I dont get is, that they think all top coaches would come running when Arsenal call. As if for example Tuchel would abandon his Dortmund project just because Arsenal call and also Dortmund gladly letting him leave. :lol:
 
IMO its the opposite of a dream job, as its always extra tough to be a legend successor and you must have instant success, otherwise everything will be compared all the time and you must have a very strong mindset for that.

If Wenger retired after his second FA Cup this statement would be accurate. Right now, not really. Things have grown stale. Fans are very ready for a change and fresh start. Unlike 2015 when fans would have expected Wenger's replacement to win the league, in 2017/18 fans will be very forgiving of the next manager. Any reactionary fan is just going to blame Wenger next for any failure so even if we finish 10th. Allegri/Jardim/Tuchel/Sampaoli will get a free pass for a year at least.

What I dont get is, that they think all top coaches would come running when Arsenal call. As if for example Tuchel would abandon his Dortmund project just because Arsenal call and also Dortmund gladly letting him leave. :lol:

Maybe look at this list:
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/highest-paid-football-managers/

Tuchel is on about 1M a year at Dortmund.
Wenger is making 8M+ a year!

Even if the board doesn't pay as much to the next manager, Arsenal can easily scoop managers like Tuchel, Jardim, Allegri, etc as the Board has already budget some of the higest manager wages in world football. You seriously think Tuchel would turn down quintupling his wages with a higher transfer budget to boot?
 
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Tuchel is on about 1M a year at Dortmund.
Wenger is making 8M+ a year!
Tuchel is reportedly on 4M + additional bonus payments, he's the 2nd highest paid manager in the Bundesliga. Of course, Arsenal can still offer him double his wages if they want. But the difference isn't as big as you make it sound. Tuchel also has only one year left on his contract, so if he stays at Dortmund, he'll extend his contract and most likely get a bit more as well.
 
Tuchel is reportedly on 4M + additional bonus payments, he's the 2nd highest paid manager in the Bundesliga. Of course, Arsenal can still offer him double his wages if they want. But the difference isn't as big as you make it sound. Tuchel also has only one year left on his contract, so if he stays at Dortmund, he'll extend his contract and most likely get a bit more as well.

I was just going by the link I post which was only a month ago, but fair enough if you have better information. Still I think people underestimate how much resources Arsenal have due to Wenger's stubborn dedication to his project.
 
I was just going by the link I post which was only a month ago, but fair enough if you have better information. Still I think people underestimate how much resources Arsenal have due to Wenger's stubborn dedication to his project.
Not sure people underestimate that. Arsenal's revenue is no secret after all and your wage bill has been huge for a while. I wouldn't be worried that you find a quality young manager to replace Wenger if he decides to leave this summer.
 
but Wenger has said repeatedly that there are funds available. He said that he spends the money as if its his own so this suggests that's Arsenal are not cash tight, Wenger just doesn't want to waste money. Thus he is holding them back from their full potential and wants a crutch to lean on to excuse his lack of recent success. Jose is completely the opposite. He demands large sums of money and has destroyed Wenger in the trophy department.


I don't think for a minute he has as much money as he says. It's a re-run of fergies "no value" and "if there is a cow in a field.... " etc. He is serving the owners quite nicely while being the fall guy, albeit a very well paid fall guy. The owners ' priority is profit and he is doing ok. The owners are not fans.

As for "Arsenal style", dearly me. They have been historically dour, rough and win at all costs until relatively recently. Even during Wengers time had the worst disciplinary record in the history of the game. The media have been very kind to Arsenal over the years.
 
I forgot his contract ends at season's end, he should be allowed to run it down. Extending it would be madness unless they win either CL or PL, which is extremely unlikely.
 
No he shouldn't, and I want him to sign again. It was Wenger who created the Arsenal I decided to support in his own decent, cosmopolitan image. I'd just like him to be a little more ruthless (which doesn't mean gratuitously unpleasant.)
 
No he shouldn't, and I want him to sign again. It was Wenger who created the Arsenal I decided to support in his own decent, cosmopolitan image. I'd just like him to be a little more ruthless (which doesn't mean gratuitously unpleasant.)
Definitely in his image. Spoilt, weak bottlers
 
Wenger won't get sacked, he'll leave at the end of the season.

You can't sack a manager who has done what Wenger has done.

They'll give him his last three months.

They'll be lucky to get someone like Pochettino, Simeone. Sanchez will move on.
 
I don't know if he will leave this season, if it happens maybe it will have interesting effects like Allegri to Arsenal and Jardim to Juventus, Simeone no, he will never go to the Premier League, when he leaves Atletico it will be to go for Serie A.
 
I pray he gets sacked everyday, he is sucking the life out of the club. Dire football, no guts to the point where I am turned off at the very idea of seeing us play. Makes me sick, his fanboys holding signs saying ''stay''. Feck off Arsene.