Another ugly incident
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article122405439.html
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article122405439.html
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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Nah I saw one of my neighbors been arrested along with her daughter after they called the cops because the daughters boyfriend, soon they started screaming at the cops they got arrested and the boyfriend was a Puerto Rican and the women white. That was the best show on my street ever.
Illinois Police Video Shows Black Ph.D. Student Being Violently Arrested for “Stealing” Own Car
By Ben Mathis-Lilley
There's a doozy of a story to go with the Evanston, Illinois, police dashcam video above. From a Chicago Fox affiliate:
Lawrence Crosby was working on his car around 7:00 PM when a woman passing by saw what she thought was an African American man breaking into a vehicle and stealing it ... The dashcam video shows him get out with his hands up with a cellphone in his hand and he then gets taken down by officers who thought they were dealing with someone who stole a car.
“On the ground... on the ground... down on the ground... down on the ground...turn around,” the officers can be heard yelling as they knee Crosby to bring him to the ground and then punch him.
To repeat, the vehicle that Crosby was suspected of "stealing" was his own car. Evanston Police, meanwhile, have released their own recorded statement in which an officer makes the astounding claim that Crosby—who in the video is swarmed, taken down, and repeatedly punched by six police officers almost immediately after exiting his car—can be seen "actively resisting arrest" in the dashcam tape. Per Fox, Crosby was prosecuted for resisting arrest but charges were dismissed by a judge.
The story notes—and Northwestern University's website confirms—that Crosby is a doctoral candidate in engineering. He studies "nanoparticles and oxide surface interactions for applications in catalysis and energy-related applications."
Crosby has filed a civil rights lawsuit against the city of Evanston and four of its officers.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ral_student_lawrency_crosby_on_erroneous.html
Cops not completely to blame - they were given bad information to start with. But, surely they could have dealt with the situation better than they did - resisting what?...black guy guilty of being black ffs!
By Ben Mathis-Lilley
There's a doozy of a story to go with the Evanston, Illinois, police dashcam video above. From a Chicago Fox affiliate:
Lawrence Crosby was working on his car around 7:00 PM when a woman passing by saw what she thought was an African American man breaking into a vehicle and stealing it ... The dashcam video shows him get out with his hands up with a cellphone in his hand and he then gets taken down by officers who thought they were dealing with someone who stole a car.
“On the ground... on the ground... down on the ground... down on the ground...turn around,” the officers can be heard yelling as they knee Crosby to bring him to the ground and then punch him.
To repeat, the vehicle that Crosby was suspected of "stealing" was his own car. Evanston Police, meanwhile, have released their own recorded statement in which an officer makes the astounding claim that Crosby—who in the video is swarmed, taken down, and repeatedly punched by six police officers almost immediately after exiting his car—can be seen "actively resisting arrest" in the dashcam tape. Per Fox, Crosby was prosecuted for resisting arrest but charges were dismissed by a judge.
The story notes—and Northwestern University's website confirms—that Crosby is a doctoral candidate in engineering. He studies "nanoparticles and oxide surface interactions for applications in catalysis and energy-related applications."
Crosby has filed a civil rights lawsuit against the city of Evanston and four of its officers.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ral_student_lawrency_crosby_on_erroneous.html
Cops not completely to blame - they were given bad information to start with. But, surely they could have dealt with the situation better than they did - resisting what?...black guy guilty of being black ffs!
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"actively resisting arrest" 
without video cam footage I wonder who would have believed him?
Thankfully nobody got shot/killed, though that's not exactly a high level of standard to measure against.
without video cam footage I wonder who would have believed him?Thankfully nobody got shot/killed, though that's not exactly a high level of standard to measure against.
"actively resisting arrest"
Thankfully nobody got shot/killed, though that's not exactly a high level of standard to measure against.
I think the bogus charges they come out with each time are terrifying. Like you said, before dashcam footage how many completely innocent people ended up in prison or having their lives ruined over this shit.
Huh, that's more or less my field of research.
This is precisely my biggest gripe with these stories, and why there's not enough crackdown on the exaggerated police reports. It just seems like a script to write "resisting arrest" "fearing for my life" after almost every altercation.
It's only going to get worse
Which is dangerous for multiple reasons. The biggest one obviously being the blatant lies to try and cover their tracks against their actions against innocent people.
But also because it sets this negative image that almost sets up a "boy who cried wolf" story in people's head when officers deal with actual people actively resisting arrest.
But also because it sets this negative image that almost sets up a "boy who cried wolf" story in people's head when officers deal with actual people actively resisting arrest.
I wish I didn't agree.
Same old story, over and over again.
this. I wouldn't trust the cops to tell the truth unless their life depended on it. Maybe that's how they see control over the populace, but to me it's just OTT policing.
No doubt their job can be tough at times, dealing with drunks, druggies, and just shitty people in general - but they have to be better about discerning the difference between the bad guys and everyone else.
Just shows how perceptions are ingrained in some people, even if it's not intentional. Black man with a hoodie working on a car is a suspicious activity?
This video plays the woman's 911 call.
Edit: It gets worse. One officer tells him he's lucky he did not shoot him.
Edit: It gets worse. One officer tells him he's lucky he did not shoot him.
Some police officers are really stupid, they have a dashcam in their cars and they still do stupid things.
Why did he get out of the car?
That's what I couldn't figure out. Why get out of the car? Never get out of the car, it's just so incredibly stupid. The police are going to interpret it as a sign of aggression.
so now its his fault?
The first thing a cop will ask you is to step out of the car, so he can see you all the time for his own security.
that's what he did... with both hands on the air.
The first thing a cop will ask you is to step out of the car, so he can see you all the time for his own security.
that's what he did... with both hands on the air.
so now its his fault?
The first thing a cop will ask you is to step out of the car, so he can see you all the time for his own security.
that's what he did... with both hands on the air.
Regarding the bolded, I've never asked anyone to step out unless I'm investigating a DUI driver.
If someone steps out on a traffic stop, I'm directing them to get back in the car straight away.
In the past 2 years, the Justice Department has released scathing reports on misconduct and a pattern of discrimination in the police departments of Cleveland, Baltimore, Chicago and Ferguson (suburb of St. Louis). Common through each report is a tendency for the justice system in which police officers, prosecutors, judges, parole officers and community boards to discriminate against minorities, even though it is very possible that individuals in these systems may have the best of intentions.
even if it's an identified suspect of robbery, who could be potentially armed? interesting...
If it it's a felony stop, sure. Your comment seemed to paint a broad stroke against every possible contact in a vehicle, in which the overwhelming majority will never be told to get out of their vehicle.
No, I'm talking about the video in question.
Getting out of the car with something in your hand is 'What not to do in America 101' in regards to traffic stops.
for sure. He was clearly lucky not to be shot. He probably had his phone (to record just in case) or his documents...
probably if it were only one copper (scared to death) he would have shot right away, but because they were like 10 feckers they were feeling safe and went for the beat down instead.
Well it still stands. You'd direct them out in a set of clear steps and instructions, not just tell them to hop out and come on back for a chat.
Well yeah, he did rushed out of his car.
Still unwarranted police brutality though.
Imagine a confused white senior citizen do the same (step out of the car)... i doubt he would receive a beat down.
And if this wasn't a student at a prestigious university it wouldn't receive the same amount of outrage. There are double standards through and through.
Doesn't change the fact a cop in Chicago is well advised to take zero chances. That city has problems...
You must be from U.K. Because here everybody knows don't leave the car until the officer tells you to do so and if he does tell that person to step out then means he suspects that person has a few too many drinks or has drugs in the car. I had a friend who was the police chief of my town and he told me they rarely made mistakes (well with the Portuguese was easy after 10pm they already had too many
)But chances with what. The only way he could be less threatening was if he was dead.
It wasn't a cop, it was a gang of them.
What a cnut. Goes on like a hard man yet pulls a gun on a few kids, should this cop not be up on some serious charges. If I was a parent of one of these kids that coward would have made an enemy for life and I don't give up. Cowardly fecking cnut.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...29?b1n19gal7u1bgldi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...29?b1n19gal7u1bgldi&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
Had he identified himself as a cop at some point in the event prior to firing the shot?
I don't know, even if he did it seems it was all over some kids walking through his yard. A few minutes in he said the kid threatened to shoot him and you can hear the other kids immediately say that he did not say that. When he said that it sounded like the infamous "he's going for my gun" excuse. Even if there was a threat he should of called the police to deal with it as at that moment he is a private citizen, not on duty. Notice where he pulls the gun from and the shot goes out a few second later. It's a shame he didn't blow off that obvious little pecker in his trousers.
In the video you can hear the kid explaining that what he actually said was "I can assure you", which the cop misheard as "I can shoot you". I'm sure the kids were being dicks but that's a masterclass in how not to deescalate a potentially violent situation. Which is amazing when you think that he's doing a job in which he's supposed to have specific training in how to do the opposite of what he does in the video. Seems to be a recurring theme with American cops. I think this is mainly because the country is so fecking swamped with guns they're all constantly terrified about being shot, so get massive adrenaline dumps at the first hint of confrontation and stop thinking rationally.
Let's be fair, he probably didn't understand what assure meant and was going to shoot the kid for making him look stupid.
It's madness and totally the opposite of how a community police force should function in society. This old chicken cnut has a lot to do with it.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/dave-grossman-training-police-militarization
The way he had his gun in his pants and nonchalantly pulls it out to threaten those kids is fecked. He definately felt disrespected though, you could see that. I got a slap from plenty of cops at that age for stupid things but pulling out a gun is so fecked up.