Although we lead them in total trophies won, now we go ahead with total Major trophies too.
Manchester United are now officially the most successful club in England
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Although we lead them in total trophies won, now we go ahead with total Major trophies too.
The spelling and grammar in that title is giving me seizures.
Sorry i got too excited went in for a drink and hit Post.
Liverpool's twitter description is very satisfying!
First time in our history that we're League Cup and FA Cup holders at the same time.
can't blame you!These things are always down to definition of what trophies count, but if the Pool twitter is changing, I think we're in!
Cop that liverpool
Congrats
We were already the most successful club in England before today.
This man gets a lot of credit for this feat.
depends what trophies you count...
We were tied with Liverpool on 41 major trophies as the most successful English football club, now we have just overtaken them.
Ummmm?
Although we lead them in total trophies won, now we go ahead with total Major trophies too.
Nah, we're now joint top with 41.
Pretty sure we were one behind before today....the three European trophies, PL/Division 1, FA Cup and League Cup. Today's win makes it 41 each I think.
1 FA cup = 1.5 League cups
1 CL = 2 European Cups
1 CL = 2 European Cups
That list doesn't include the World Club Cup, which we won.
Given you have to be CL champs to participate, I want no talk of it being a'minor' cup.
Given you have to be CL champs to participate, I want no talk of it being a'minor' cup.
World Club Cup, Intercontinental Cup, Super Cup?
Depends if FIFA club world cup is regarded as major trophy. I saw few people rating it above league cup etc in the 'ranking of trophies' thread recently. To me, it is just series of glorified friendlies. It is not 'one-off' game though, to win trophy so I can see why it can be counted as a 'major' trophy. Is there a 'definition' of a major trophy?
World club championship not included in the 41 - perhaps that explains the varying numbers from different sources.
I'm confused how the World Club Cup WOULDN'T be counted as a major trophy???
The pic has condition below which says it doesn't include one-offs but then FIFA club world cup should be counted if they are just keeping out one-offs. Intercontinental cup used to be one-off, same with Super cup which is nothing more than European community shield.
doesnt matter to me much, they went behind a long itme ago and they will go even further down as we are back to winning trophies with Mourinho
Yeah, I wouldn't count the CWC personally but can see the argument for including it on the 'one-off' game definition.
World club cup
Intercontinental cup
Super cup
Should all be added
Intercontinental cup
Super cup
Should all be added
But 5 times la
Depends what trophies are counted
The 41 Liverpool have won can be broken down as follows:
First Division - 18
FA Cups - 7
League Cups - 8
European Cups/Champions Leagues - 5
UEFA Cups - 3
Manchester United's 42 are:
First Division/Premier League - 20
FA Cups - 12
League Cups - 5
European Cups/Champions Leagues - 3
Cup Winners Cups - 1
Club World Cups - 1
If you count all trophies then the 3 Super Cups and 15 Community Shields takes Liverpool up to 59 and the Super Cup, 21 Shields and Intercontinental Cup that United have won gives us 65.
The 41 Liverpool have won can be broken down as follows:
First Division - 18
FA Cups - 7
League Cups - 8
European Cups/Champions Leagues - 5
UEFA Cups - 3
Manchester United's 42 are:
First Division/Premier League - 20
FA Cups - 12
League Cups - 5
European Cups/Champions Leagues - 3
Cup Winners Cups - 1
Club World Cups - 1
If you count all trophies then the 3 Super Cups and 15 Community Shields takes Liverpool up to 59 and the Super Cup, 21 Shields and Intercontinental Cup that United have won gives us 65.
However you cut it though, we're no longer under them which is the important thing.
If we can win the FA cup, or Europa it'll be magnificent.
It's a good thing they've lost a few cup finals over the last decade, although we've also lost 2 European cup finals of course
If we can win the FA cup, or Europa it'll be magnificent.
It's a good thing they've lost a few cup finals over the last decade, although we've also lost 2 European cup finals of course
It will be 42 by the end of the season.
And they won't hear a word that one of them was soft as anything, and in effect 4 were in the same regime.
Cwc was huge when we won it and goes down as one of the great nights
Not counting our World Club Cup?
Man Utd
Premier Leagues/Football League (Old) - 20 (2nd = Liverpool with 18)
FA Cup - 12 (Arsenal joint top with 12)
League Cups - 5 (1st = Liverpool with 8)
Champions League/European Cup - 3 (1st = Real Madrid with 11)
UEFA Cup Winners Cup - 1 (1st = Barcelona with 4)
Total = 41
Other
21 Community Shields, 1 UEFA Super Cup, 2 Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cups,
Liverpool
Football League (Old) - 18
FA Cup - 7
League Cup - 8
Champions League/European Cup - 5
UEFA Cup - 3 (1st = Sevilla with 5)
Total = 41
Other
15 Community Shields, 1 Football League Super Cup, 3 European Super Cups,
What am I missing?
Premier Leagues/Football League (Old) - 20 (2nd = Liverpool with 18)
FA Cup - 12 (Arsenal joint top with 12)
League Cups - 5 (1st = Liverpool with 8)
Champions League/European Cup - 3 (1st = Real Madrid with 11)
UEFA Cup Winners Cup - 1 (1st = Barcelona with 4)
Total = 41
Other
21 Community Shields, 1 UEFA Super Cup, 2 Intercontinental Cup/Club World Cups,
Liverpool
Football League (Old) - 18
FA Cup - 7
League Cup - 8
Champions League/European Cup - 5
UEFA Cup - 3 (1st = Sevilla with 5)
Total = 41
Other
15 Community Shields, 1 Football League Super Cup, 3 European Super Cups,
What am I missing?
Counting the Club World Cup, but not the Intercontinental Cup is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. They are the same thing!!!
Brilliant.
That's the spirit mate
I think it's because Liverpool don't have one.
Bleacher Report's Twitter doesn't count Intercontinental Cup as it is a two team competition.