This was in 2015, not sure how much has changed since but it's very impressive still:
Lukaku vs Icardi vs Belotti vs Lacazette
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Is there not an updated one for Belotti? That one is from way back in November
That's the same one?
You posted the same one again. 
Here you go:
Stats are very much consistent with November, so I imagine they'd be the same right now too.
Here you go:
Stats are very much consistent with November, so I imagine they'd be the same right now too.
You posted the same one again.
Here you go:
Stats are very much consistent with November, so I imagine they'd be the same right now too.
FFS. Can't even copy and paste properly
Belotti vs Icardi about to start.
Good shout
All the four players are looking really impressive. Except Icardi, I expect all the other three to move to bigger clubs this summer. I want to see them all play for a top club in the epl. I want to see this next season.
Lukaku -> United
Belotti -> Chelsea
Lacazette -> Arsenal
Aubameyang -> City
Lukaku -> United
Belotti -> Chelsea
Lacazette -> Arsenal
Aubameyang -> City
I think I'd like Icardi here most, but Belotti and Lukaku are clearly more the type of forwards Mourinho likes, plus they come with the added bonus of less baggage, I just don't think Lukaku has the drive to turn it on for a prolonged period of time, I know he's still young but he started out younger than all the rest, so i think we're seeing his peak from now on (a bit like Rooney).
Any Italian posters/Serie A viewers comment on how good Belotti is? Seems he's come out of nowhere these past 18 months.
Any Italian posters/Serie A viewers comment on how good Belotti is? Seems he's come out of nowhere these past 18 months.
Lukaku guarantees 20 plus goals in the premiership the rest don't .. No contest
Nobody can guarantee you a tally of goals.
No one "guarantees" goals. But I understand what you mean. But this will be totally different for him - Manchester United or Chelsea aren't like WBA or Everton. How much has he scored in the national team? Is he a leader there?
He is as close to a guarantee are you will get though. It's as likely as Mayweather beating McGregor
I would definitely favour a player that's already done it over here though, you never know how players from other leagues are going to adapt.
I want us to look beyond the PL argument, we never bought Phillips, Defoe or Bent, we should be looking at the all round game of the striker with the ultimate goal being the CL, in that regard Belotti is clearly the best all round footballer of the 4.
The funny thing is he actually doesn't... This is the first time in 5 seasons that he has 20+ goals in a single PL season.
No, his play for the NT has always been scrutinised because Belgium are constantly playing as the superior side or a team on equal footing, and the opponent will drop deep and that does highlight what are/were Lukaku's major issues: being able to rely upon his first touch within tight defences rather than playing on the break in quick transitions. Though I think you can caveat this with two points: the first being that he is most definitely not alone in his underwhelming performances for Belgium, and secondly if the barometer for every striker was to perform just as well for their NT as they do domestically we'd have very few strikers that could be serious options.
I wasn't trying to be negative just don't recall him being good in the NT. But wouldn't what you said about his performances in the NT mean that he could have a difficult time playing for Manchester United? Wouldn't the style of play be similar? Or do Belgium play totally different?
Would he be "as good as" Ibrahimovic? Better/worse?
I think that's the main reservation most would have about Lukaku. I mean he wouldn't be the first striker who is able to score at a very respectable rate for a mid-table side to go on to a bigger team and struggle: take your pick from down the years. Still... I believe he's a lot better than most of the reason players who have had this issue, and as a player over the years he has been improving at Everton.
Overall, I reckon he'd be more than fine domestically speaking, but for a side that wants to be challenging Europe's elite, Romelu Lukaku doesn't quite seem like the type you want leading your line unless he does improve his flaws within his time at the club. Then again... We're sat in 6th - actually 7th place - one can ask who are we to sniff our noses?
Thanks for the answer. So basically, if his fee is close to Pogba's, maybe it's better to search for a better alternative...
How does André Silva from Porto or Kasper Dolberg from Ajax compare to Lukaku? From the little I've seen of them it's actually really interesting. "Feels" like something better than Lukaku, but just a feeling. Wouldn't it be better to sign one of them, loan them out for 1 or 2 seasons and keep Ibrahimovic, but improve the other positions this summer? I really don't like the available striker options at the moment and if Ibra stays I really can't see why it's more important to buy Lukaku for a "monster fee" than other positions - LB or DM for instance.
Lukaku is the kind of striker that scores an hat trick when you are beating a team 5-0 while I prefer the guy that scores that lone goal in a 1-0. In 31 EPL games, Lukaku has failed to score in 16 games, with about 30% of his goals (7/23) coming in 2 matches and almost 60% (13/23) coming in 5 games (which his team scored 3+ goals). Not United starting material in my opinion.
Icardi is the most clinical (he is lethal in the box) while Belotti is the most interesting (he is like a bull in a china warehouse which suits EPL style)
Icardi is the most clinical (he is lethal in the box) while Belotti is the most interesting (he is like a bull in a china warehouse which suits EPL style)
You are looking way too much into this. If you check any PL striker record it will be same. No player will score in all games. Even when RVP was in beast form he didn't score in 10 games on a trot.
Just to compare with other strikers in other leagues.
Lukaku scored in 15/31 games
Kane scored in 11/23 games
Costa scored in 16/29 games
Sanchez scored in 12/30 games
Aguero scored in 12/25 games
Belotti scored in 16/28 games
Dzeko scored in 18/31 games
Higauin scored in 15/31 games
Icardi scored in 12/29 games
Suarez scored in 18/29 games
Ronaldo scored in 13/24 games
Griezmann scored in 12/30 games
Lewandowski scored in 14/28 games
Auba scored in 17/26 games
Few players have better average but in general Lukaku's scoring rate is on par with other big strikers.
Just thought I'll update the stats since the season is over and see how they stand.
Squawka stats for the league alone (Penalties in bracket):
Lukaku 25(1) goals and 6 assists from 37 games
Icardi 24(3) goals and 8 assists from 34 games
Belotti 26(2) goals and 7 assists from 35 games
Lacazette 27(10)goals and 3 assists from 30 games
With Lacazette moving to Athletico and Icardi not having any link to us, it seems we'll go for one of Lukaku or Belotti.
Interesting stats.
I'm hoping for Andre Silva.
How has his season gone? He started well but I've not seen much of Porto in the last few months.
Stats say 16 goals and 5 assists from 30 games.
For some reason he wasn't necessarily first choice anymore. No idea what happened, but what I've seen over the course of the season was enough to like him a lot. His form definitely suffered a lot recently. Maybe @Arruda knows more?
Thanks, not bad given it's his first full season in the senior side.
Who replaced him as first choice? I know they brought Suarez in, in January but they were initially playing together. I think his strengths would make him a good foil for Griezmann.
Soares, you mean? Yeah, he replaced Silva. Can't say he's been that much better recently.
Yeah, I think so, too. He also looks like the sort of striker Mourinho appreciates.
Yeah that's who I meant, they were playing together at first, did Diogo Jota get back in?
He reminds me of a cross between Benzema and Costa in his attributes.
Played just 45 minutes in May, other than that lots of substitute appearances here and there. He looks promising.
I wouldn't sign any of them, i'd trust in Rashford, bring in Griezmann to play with him, and sign a player like Hernandez do back him up when his form(all all youngsters form does) fluctuates, and we also have Martial who can play up there.
If we were to sign Griezmann, I see no reason why we can't let the Rashford Era begin. He's young, but if you're good enough, you're old enough and Rashford has shown in big games he can be counted on. If we signed M'Bappe, we'd expect him to start for us and he's younger than Rashford and played a similar amount of games. Jesus will probably play a big role for City and he's played less than Rashford. We play with 1 striker, signing a striker for over 50 million is a pointless move at this point when we already have a good striker on our books.
But is he really good enough? I don't think so. He doesn't score enough goals to be our main striker. He has played 52 games this season of which he has started in 30 games scoring just 11. One might say that he played majority of his games on the wing. But in the PL and EL combined, he has started 10 games as a striker and scored 2. Not signing a top striker would be madness.
I haven't seen enough of Belotti to really comment on him, but I do think that Icardi's poaching ability means he'd be the best signing for the Prem (he can find the goal to avoid the home draws that plagued us) and Lukaku's threat on counters means he'd be the best for the CL, where we're probably going to play very defensively after the groups anyways.
I think that with Rashford and Martial around and both having the pace and dribbling to be excellent on the counter once they develop a bit, the more important role is someone who can score against deep defences who sit back because they're worried about being done on the counter and want to force us to build play and also to hold up the ball in tough games. I'm not sure Morata is the best player, but I think he makes a lot of sense in terms of having those skills. Looks like he's turned us down and is off to Milan, but if we were in for him, I think that's why. His scoring rate is excellent (58 goals in 7240 pro minutes) and much of that is either against deep defenses or on the break (since he's been a sub at top teams and that's generally what a sub striker is facing when brought on) and he's a very clever hold up player who uses his size well in that regard.
Relying on Rashford as the only forward would be madness if league title is our aspiration.
Since we go for Perisic and Inter wont sell Icardi i imagine, Belotti or Lukaku are a must.
Since we go for Perisic and Inter wont sell Icardi i imagine, Belotti or Lukaku are a must.
So, Lacazette is back in the market. Maybe we should sign him instead. Would cost half the price of Belotti and Lukaku.