The vicar's daughter? I thought Sturgeon's 'shanks' were more coquetteishly poised?It'd certainly be dirtier with May.
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The debate about the 'divorce bill' is a bit odd. Various figures are being quoted, but always as a gross amount. Surely if it's for projects and spending already agreed then much of that sum will bounce back to the UK in the form of spending here. It's the net amount that matters.
Obviously pensions and such will have to be paid, and rightly so, but again, a proportion of that will be to British recipients, so hopefully most will come back to the UK.
Obviously pensions and such will have to be paid, and rightly so, but again, a proportion of that will be to British recipients, so hopefully most will come back to the UK.
feck it, I'll take em both...at the same time.
"I've lived there so I know all about it"
I don't get it that it's billed as an 'exit fee'. Surely if we've committed to long-term funding projects, then they are paid over several years, rather than a massive lump sum upfront cost.
Kind of made me laugh (more cry) that a vox pop on the news said Britain will get great trade deals cos 'everyone loves us'. Hmm...
The Commission's role is diminishing in relation to the other branches. I'm finishing an essay but can send you some stuff later in the week if you're interested.
Mingling fluids.
I think I now understand what this is all about:
Brexitier: "We finally have the right to self determination!"
So what are you going to do then?
Err....
Brexitier: "We finally have the right to self determination!"
So what are you going to do then?
Err....
To put it simply the commission is the Eu state and the commissioners are ministre/chancellors, so yes they directly propose laws who are submitted to the EU council and or the EU parliament.
1st ep of Futurama.
OTOH:
The fact that interest rates are set by the central bank with no political accountability and a directive to combat inflation is a de-facto tolerance of unemployment. (from my limited understanding)
Yeah that'd be quite interesting actually, thanks!
I don't see how continuing to pay for agreed projects until they end is an exit fee either. I suppose it's the running theme of Brexit, everyone wants answers to everything now, right away, whereas in reality we'll only learn little by little, and slowly. Still that gives lots of room for confident predictions and boasting bets about the future, so it seems to be keeping everyone happy, along with the insults of course.
The assessment about group think in social science is not really in question. In social science there is a very fine line between confirming your own preconceptions by looking at the data and actually forming a view based on data. It is very difficult to work with very noisy data. There are good reasons to be pro-eu, but not all of these reasons are economical. The cultural idea of forming a post-nationalistic society, that is able to overcome the petty feuds of the past is commonly shared between people who are often part of an intellectual environment with cosmopolitan/international outlook. Thats great and I am all for that, but many people bring these values back in their field and just look for further confirmation of these ideas.
Petty feuds? WW1, WW2, and the rest, were a bit more than that.
Spoken like someone who's had no interaction with their MP by the sounds of it.
Nick Clegg asking people in Wales why they voted Brexit: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/people-welsh-valleys-town-reveal-12813508
Yep, my missus as a national of a former colonial country loved that one.Sorry but
I'm dreading two more years of conjecture and bullshit.
Fake news, etc, blah blah blah
It's clear from this thread that nobody has a fecking clue as to what the EU means and represents. A few highlights...
If you are remain you are a racist. Yet the EU doesn't have uncontrolled immigration with non EU countries for example in Africa...??? Work that out. Only racist to restrict immigration of europeans?
People won't work in other countries in the EU if you're from the UK, and vice versa. Sorry to break it to you this was happening a long time before the formation of the EU.
Access to the single market means no trade between UK/EU......really ffs.
Lower cost labour is only available from the EU.
loads more lol, scaremongering cnuts...
It's clear from this thread that nobody has a fecking clue as to what the EU means and represents. A few highlights...
If you are remain you are a racist. Yet the EU doesn't have uncontrolled immigration with non EU countries for example in Africa...??? Work that out. Only racist to restrict immigration of europeans?
People won't work in other countries in the EU if you're from the UK, and vice versa. Sorry to break it to you this was happening a long time before the formation of the EU.
Access to the single market means no trade between UK/EU......really ffs.
Lower cost labour is only available from the EU.
loads more lol, scaremongering cnuts...
The flipside is I receive diametrically opposed info every day. Some economic consultancies, like Capital Economics or Albert Edwards at SocGen are perma-bears, while Gavekal etc always find reason to be bullish. Conflating all of that into an article can be interesting.
The EU has free movement between countries within the EU, and has certain criteria countries must be in order to join, and be deemed capable of joining in with that freedom of movement. If the EU wishes to expand into Africa and the countries there do meet the required criteria, then they can by all means join - of course, most of them would fall short in a number of categories.
Very few people are saying it's not going to be possible to live/work in other countries, but Brexit will make it more difficult than it is at the moment presuming freedom of movement is scrapped. Again, don't see how that's a difficult one to get.
And EU members come from the Europe Council.
Just watching reacting from around Europe on Newsnight - they really don't give a shit about us They're gonna give us a tough time to say the least.
[No I did not post this ten minutes ago in the wrong thread]
They're gonna give us a tough time to say the least.[No I did not post this ten minutes ago in the wrong thread
]In a way I'm pleased art. 50 has finally triggered because we're now going to see the true impact of Brexit and the impact on Britain. I hope I'm wrong, but thinking objectively I really think Britain is going to be a lot worse for it. For example, I know for a fact that insurers are already moving their European HQ's out of London and setting up new companies in mainland Europe.
Having your wages inflated away buy having your currency tank isn't pleasent
Poor Boris, he said he believes in having your cake and eating it. Well, he's going go have tons of humble pie.
That's what's happening in the UK- inflation now at a four year high and I had to buy a bunch of dollars the other week. Expensive.
No white text? Subsidies ARE help.
Right. So I don't see why when talking about Greece people make it sound like a painless option, do this and the economies fixed, when the payment comes from the poor and people on fixed incomes
It depends how you interpret it, allowing unemployment to reach high percentages is criminal. Especially without any policy or economic strategy in place to combat it.Kinell
Unemployment a crime?
Is that the eu fault, you can argue yes or no but you can definately link it.to the clubs economic policies. Is.the single currency to blame? Definately
If you try to see it from that point of view then FBR statement makes perfect sense.
Maybe/hopefully that is what he meant. Still bullshit of course as unemployment will get worse by us leaving. Plus much/most of the rest of his list is a bit bizarre.
Not sure many people genuinely believe that the process Greece has been through, and is still going through, has been painless. I went to Athens last year and the very intense cabbie was ranting about austerity. The unemployment rate is frightening, people have lost part of their pensions- the situation is pretty desperate for many and ongoing.
I never argued either was painless. Just those who advocate a free floating currency never mention that it too brings pain. Ireland recovered fairly well within the euro
It doesn't help that the media don't explain the context and stick to a catchy phrase of exit fee.
To be fair leavers are the type of people who would commit to a group purchase only to change their mind after and leave everyone else with the bill. Simple folk mainly. Bet they skip queues on the motorway as well the cnuts.
I don't think she is getting a good deal. She isn't a leader, she sounds too uncertain.
She isn't uncertain. How can a leader of a democratic country go against a democratic mandate and retain any credibility? Her position before is irrelevant. She is setting her stall out strongly which are basic negotiating tactics and the 'remoaners' are sh*tting the bed because they think that will be the final picture.