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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Apparently you can get it working for Orange too!

Yeah, I forgot about Orange and EDF. In the case Orange it's disappearing and unjustified but in the case EDF their technicians are available 24/7, a few years ago half of the town went without electricity around 11PM, I was out with friends and we saw 6 or 7 EDF trucks within 15mn.
 
I'm sure they dont, and France has plenty of problems of its own. What I don't accept however is that the UK with its exploding growth of zero hour contracts, stagnating wages and diminishing workers rights is some champion of employment, while France who actually have good working conditions are the ones doing it wrong.
And the Netherlands, we have zeros in abundance. Dont lets pretend its a uk thing.
 
The rules around sick days are the only area I think Britain have it better. I was shocked when I heard you have to have a doctors note for a single day off work in France. Also having a note when someone has died. That freaked me out.
I had to show my mum and dads death certs to claim days off when they died. Humiliating.
 
I'm sure they dont, and France has plenty of problems of its own. What I don't accept however is that the UK with its exploding growth of zero hour contracts, stagnating wages and diminishing workers rights is some champion of employment, while France who actually have good working conditions are the ones doing it wrong.

Have you any idea of how many global corporates are pulling their operations out of France because of the relatively massive pay offs etc?
 
Have you any idea of how many global corporates are pulling their operations out of France because of the relatively massive pay offs etc?

My global corporation is quite happy there. If a global corporation wants to leave because they don't want to look after staff in a decent manner though, good riddance to them. I'm tired of this attitude that we have to constantly reduce the standards of how normal working people get to live their lives, just to allow for larger profit margins.
 
I had to show my mum and dads death certs to claim days off when they died. Humiliating.

With me it wasn't someone quite that close, but it still made me genuinely angry when they asked. Then I realized that it really isn't anything strange there, it's just the system they are used to. Part of getting used to a new country I guess.
 
Michael Caine has said he voted Brexit because he'd "rather be a poor master, than a rich servant".

...during a contractually obliged press day for his new film, written by Ted Melfi and directed by Zach Braff.
 
So, as of 15th june, all roaming costs for mobile phones in the EU are disappearing. I guess due to the Brexit, this doesn't apply to the UK?
 
Michael Caine has said he voted Brexit because he'd "rather be a poor master, than a rich servant".

...during a contractually obliged press day for his new film, written by Ted Melfi and directed by Zach Braff.
And when was the last time he was poor? He has no idea what it would be like being poor.
 
Is Mr Reckless who keeps changing political party a real person or a character from the Mr Men series?

Reckless is a fantastically appropriate surname, but it might not be quite as good as the MEP who punched a guy whose surname is Hookem.
 
Reckless is a fantastically appropriate surname, but it might not be quite as good as the MEP who punched a guy whose surname is Hookem.

They only need Nigel to change his surname to idiot and the UKIP are done
 
What i don't get about reckless is how he can do it.

He didn't stand for a seat and get elected, the Welsh assembly works on proportional representation for a lot of it, where each party is awarded a number of seats based on the votes they received, and fill those seats from a list of candidates submitted before the election.

That is how Neil Hamilton got a seat. Its also how Reckless got one.

I don't get how he can change parties and keep a seat that was not awarded to him, but to UKIP. I am no fan of UKIP by any stretch, but this seems farcical that he can switch sides and take a parties seat with him. Surely he must stand aside and allow UKIP to replace him with another candidate from the list.
 
Commemorate Brexit with a gold coin*

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*Now more expensive because of the sterling slump.
 
Reckless is on far shakier ground than Carswell, given he was elected via party list.
 
AMS doesn't have a facility for by-elections at all so Reckless will probably be alright.
 
What i don't get about reckless is how he can do it.

He didn't stand for a seat and get elected, the Welsh assembly works on proportional representation for a lot of it, where each party is awarded a number of seats based on the votes they received, and fill those seats from a list of candidates submitted before the election.

That is how Neil Hamilton got a seat. Its also how Reckless got one.

I don't get how he can change parties and keep a seat that was not awarded to him, but to UKIP. I am no fan of UKIP by any stretch, but this seems farcical that he can switch sides and take a parties seat with him. Surely he must stand aside and allow UKIP to replace him with another candidate from the list.

Them's not the rules.
 
Michael Caine has said he voted Brexit because he'd "rather be a poor master, than a rich servant".

...during a contractually obliged press day for his new film, written by Ted Melfi and directed by Zach Braff.

He'd pick being poor over being rich? Yeah, right. Fraud.
 
If all the things May is now prepared to cede on are true, why the feck are we leaving then?
 
My global corporation is quite happy there. If a global corporation wants to leave because they don't want to look after staff in a decent manner though, good riddance to them. I'm tired of this attitude that we have to constantly reduce the standards of how normal working people get to live their lives, just to allow for larger profit margins.

Your global corporate is in the minority, investment in your country from globals is dwindling. Your youth unemployment is at the expense of the fat packages your mature employees dine out on.
 
Your global corporate is in the minority, investment in your country from globals is dwindling. Your youth unemployment is at the expense of the fat packages your mature employees dine out on.

I live in France but my country is Britain. The increasingly xenophobic, small minded shit hole where working people are treated more and more like commodities. So yes, I can judge.
 
I live in France but my country is Britain. The increasingly xenophobic, small minded shit hole where working people are treated more and more like commodities. So yes, I can judge.
You can judge but the fact of the matter is that big enterprise size companies are exiting france, italy, germany etc due to the high cost of doing business there. Having had to effectively make redundant people in some of those countries I can understand why, lots of people stealing a living because protected by labor laws.
 
You can judge but the fact of the matter is that big enterprise size companies are exiting france, italy, germany etc due to the high cost of doing business there. Having had to effectively make redundant people in some of those countries I can understand why, lots of people stealing a living because protected by labor laws.

And yet the EU annual GDP continues to rise.
 
And yet the EU annual GDP continues to rise.

Yes it does, but not sure what your point is. I work for one of the biggest IT companies in the world, it has actively moved operations out of certain countries, and in my business unit it has two hubs in EMEA, in Romania and the UK.
 
Yes it does, but not sure what your point is. I work for one of the biggest IT companies in the world, it has actively moved operations out of certain countries, and in my business unit it has two hubs in EMEA, in Romania and the UK.

My point is that the endless competition to pull in the biggest corporations and to call that success, is not as black and white as it sometimes seems. Growth is only meaningful when it brings genuine growth in workers and societies standards of life. If a corporation hired thousands of workers but it's at bare minimum wages and the economic benefits only really benefit the shareholders, then it's false growth.
 
My point is that the endless competition to pull in the biggest corporations and to call that success, is not as black and white as it sometimes seems. Growth is only meaningful when it brings genuine growth in workers and societies standards of life. If a corporation hired thousands of workers but it's at bare minimum wages and the economic benefits only really benefit the shareholders, then it's false growth.
The same businesses that usually dodge paying the lions share of their tax liabilities in the new host country while the politicians blindly overlook this because they're creating jobs leaving it to the underpaid locals and overstretched original small businesses to make up the tax shortfall from their ever diminishing purses. We're ghettoising our own employment landscape and patting ourselves on the back whilst doing so as it's a sign of growth, green shoots and all that bollocks.
 
You can judge but the fact of the matter is that big enterprise size companies are exiting france, italy, germany etc due to the high cost of doing business there. Having had to effectively make redundant people in some of those countries I can understand why, lots of people stealing a living because protected by labor laws.

It's funny. I regularly visit Germany, France, Italy and the U.K. I live in the Netherlands. Of all those countries I mentioned the biggest shit hole is far & away Britain. Yet the British seem to think that their country is some kind of utopian society.
 
It's funny. I regularly visit Germany, France, Italy and the U.K. I live in the Netherlands. Of all those countries I mentioned the biggest shit hole is far & away Britain. Yet the British seem to think that their country is some kind of utopian society.
Of course they don't at all. You have a weird view of what they supposedly think.
 
Of course they don't at all. You have a weird view of what they supposedly think.

When I speak to my family & friends from Britain, most of them seem to think that Britain is the land of milk & honey and that I live in a 3rd World country.
 
When I speak to my family & friends from Britain, most of them seem to think that Britain is the land of milk & honey and that I live in a 3rd World country.
Well they're not far off if you showed them pictures of your flat in the Bijlmer ;)
 
When I speak to my family & friends from Britain, most of them seem to think that Britain is the land of milk & honey and that I live in a 3rd World country.

Sounds like more of an issue for your family and friends to address.
 
It's funny. I regularly visit Germany, France, Italy and the U.K. I live in the Netherlands. Of all those countries I mentioned the biggest shit hole is far & away Britain. Yet the British seem to think that their country is some kind of utopian society.
I'd add Spain in there too. I reckon England comfortably has the most squalid, shithole towns in the G7. I thought it was a predominantly northern thing until I moved to London and visited the likes of Northampton, Swindon and Croydon. It's nationwide.