Wait what? That was a dive. If we apply the standards by which Khedira (of all people) got a yellow against Barcelona, Casemiro deserved his 3rd and 4th yellow for that one. A penalty.
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Wait what? That was a dive. If we apply the standards by which Khedira (of all people) got a yellow against Barcelona, Casemiro deserved his 3rd and 4th yellow for that one. A penalty.
Coming from the club that has the despicable ultra sur
This is good for Juve though, it's very likely that the ref assigned for the Barca-Juve game now feels like he needs to avoid any favoritism towards Barca.
Video evidence is going to be a bit weird with decisions like Lewandowski where he was onside. Most of the Madrid defence had stepped up but the left back played him on by a yard or two. Lewa had a free run towards the keeper but the linesman put his flag up straight away and the ref whistled.
The game fundamentally changes if you say that Lewa and the other players have to play on like nothing had happened. Those other offsides where the goal is scored and the play is over before or just as the linesman puts his flag up to disallow it are easy to review.
Of course we can just say lets just concentrate on the easy situations first.
The game fundamentally changes if you say that Lewa and the other players have to play on like nothing had happened. Those other offsides where the goal is scored and the play is over before or just as the linesman puts his flag up to disallow it are easy to review.
Of course we can just say lets just concentrate on the easy situations first.
Don't know if anyone has seen this:
For all of the whining about Vidal's second yellow - fair play to the ref, he actually got it spot on. At first glance I thought it was a horrible decision, but upon closer scrutiny, you can see that Vidal takes the man before the ball.
The first fault of Vidal is not yellow but Orange,from behind to the ankle.
I don't remember so much debate with the soft penalty of Munich or the one of yesterday
I don't remember so much debate with the soft penalty of Munich or the one of yesterday
I think you should clean your eyes.
the best part of all this is the barca fans like rafael hernandez on twitter moaning about refs. like we all didnt see the second leg of their psg game. or any of their games for the past 10 years
Don't worry mate. There is a lot of faux outrage here. Glad you lot shafted Bayern, now for Atleti to shaft Real to complete the circle
I'm 100% confident that they'll get knocked out again by Real if they meet.Don't worry mate. There is a lot of faux outrage here. Glad you lot shafted Bayern, now for Atleti to shaft Real to complete the circle
Baffled by some of the comments here.
The one offside goal and not carding casemiro were bad from the officials.
But this is normally expected for home teams.
Evens out I think when you consider the ref favouring Bayern first leg.
United has been shafted by the refs a lot, but haven't seen this level of comments yet.
IMO the game was very even till the red card.
And considering both legs real deserved to go through.
Ronaldo and Marcelo the main difference between both teams.
The one offside goal and not carding casemiro were bad from the officials.
But this is normally expected for home teams.
Evens out I think when you consider the ref favouring Bayern first leg.
United has been shafted by the refs a lot, but haven't seen this level of comments yet.
IMO the game was very even till the red card.
And considering both legs real deserved to go through.
Ronaldo and Marcelo the main difference between both teams.
This, this and thrice this.
I suppose that UEFA will try to avoid the same final so we should meet them in semifinals.Don't worry mate. There is a lot of faux outrage here. Glad you lot shafted Bayern, now for Atleti to shaft Real to complete the circle
A third defeat It would be terrible for them.
But until that moment we are Juventini
So what? As someone mentioned before: Neuer is part of the team and he is much better than Navas.
I did look very close. Casemiro sticks his leg out in order to block Robben. He misses the ball, blocks Robben normal run towards the ball. It is a penalty. In the video above, it is a minimal contact, but Boateng does not stick his leg out. Different scenarios. Giving penalty for Robben and not for Casemiro here was one of the better decisions by the ref.
Not every contact in the box is a penalty. This is a case of minimal contact. If it was Neymar in this picture everyone would say he dived. Now I'm not saying it's a dive, but it's not a penalty either.
Yeah its debatable that Lewandowski is called back in a 1v1 situation with Navas for beeing offside while he clearly wasnt, it's debatable that Casemiro was still playing while Vidal was not and its totally debatable that Real gets not 1 but 2(!!!) offside goals back to back. Holy shit.
Shhhh.. don't talk sense. All this conspiracy talk is embarrassing.
Casemiro could have been sent off in the first half. Two bookable offenses. One he stops a very dangerous counterattack and gets away with it, and the 2nd one late in the first half when he actually gets a yellow.
So, it's true Vidal should've been out. Even sooner. But so did Casemiro. Actually even sooner than Vidal, if we stick to the rules.
So you have 2 offside goals for Madrid, one red card for Casemiro not given, and one wrong offside call for Lewa in what would've been 90% a goal.
This is Chelsea vs Barca level of errors.
If i were Juventus, i would be very worried after what happened in Madrid. Barca are gonna try everything to go through.
I didn't know 5 shots on target give you one blatantly wrong ref decision in your favor.
But yeah, the stat has little value, given Bayern had to play with 10 players over a long period of both games. The first red card was justified, but the second really killed the momentum of Bayern, they had the game under control and might as well have made it through.
For some reason refs favor teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona in CL, even Nani was sent off against Real Madrid.
Yeah, pretty much a cert cos he scores 9 out of every 10 chances he gets.... actually, probably best to just give Bayern the goal.... in fact chuck Madrid out..... actually throw Madrid out of football entirely? Their non stop dodgy decisions are a stain on the rest of Spanish clubs who play the game fairly and never get decisions in their favour.
The only team that can prevent Real from winning back-to-back CL's is Juventus and fortunately they are looking efficient and industrious enough to beat Real.
It's Juve. When the final comes, they'll lose. So you should hope they meet Real in the semis.
I'd be happy if they pulled the plug, which they won't do - contract still running another year, it would just cause a major press storm, damage their self-appointed Image of being the pillar of sustainable Management, plus they don't have a successor lined up.. Not that he did much wrong, but the time for a major team rebuild is right now and he is not the man for that job - he was the man for the CL title with an experienced team.
Most of spanish teams dive and force the refs to give cards especially in CL, let us throw all La Liga teams out of the CL?
The only way to put these pitiful ref displays to bed is introducing video technology and allow the referee to listen from another referee located upstairs, same as other sports do, here the rugby / five nations tournament. At this level, it is not sport anymore, it is entertainment business and several hundred millions are at stake. Referees do their best, suffer from miedo escenico and act now a far bigger role than they should have.
Well, it's a fact that, even though Real had some good chances, they were not good enough to beat Bayern over 90 minutes. It's also a fact that the ref favoured Real, he gave them two offside goals. It's also weird that Casemiro played till the end, although he should have been sent off long ago.
At this level small factors can decide games and Real was obviously favoured by the ref.
At this level small factors can decide games and Real was obviously favoured by the ref.
I suppose that UEFA will try to avoid the same final so we should meet them in semifinals.
A third defeat It would be terrible for them.
But until that moment we are Juventini
Oh, I am really hoping either Monaco or Juve win the title this time.On the flip side you had a non-pen given as a penalty in the first leg and a pretty generous penalty call this leg.
spanish media seem to report that Vidal, Lewa and Thiago paid the Refs a visit in their locker room after the match and had to be removed by the police
UEFA has said there was no plan to press charges for what happened after the match.
Kassai and his team were so ashamed of their performance that they went for a late supper in Reals hangout joint "Mesón Txistu" - isn't that a basque name?
(my personal favourite, Sport1's Christian Ortlepp aka the Woodward of internatinoal football, discovered this).
It is unknown who picked up their tap.
UEFA has said there was no plan to press charges for what happened after the match.
Kassai and his team were so ashamed of their performance that they went for a late supper in Reals hangout joint "Mesón Txistu" - isn't that a basque name?
(my personal favourite, Sport1's Christian Ortlepp aka the Woodward of internatinoal football, discovered this).
It is unknown who picked up their tap.
Obviously you're pissed off that you went out, but try and be objective. I can't embed this, but the following link is pretty clear.
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https://gfycat.com/DependentSilkyGrasshopper#?speed=0.25He clearly makes contact with Asensio's left foot before he makes contact with the ball.
Talking about decisions in someone's favor,why are you dismissing the penalty from the first leg which wasn't a hand ball? That was the only error in that game and could have cost u the tie, but I guess because Vidal didn't score it doesn't count in your book.
As for the second red card, this foul in 48th minute should have been a second yellow for Vidal.
Guy is an animal, a butcher and has no place in big games. He even kicked and pushed Modric out of frustration in the first game, just because he couldn't handle him.
Forget the video technology talk guys, it'll only be considered when some team knocks out Madrid/Barca by some dodgy ref decision, which of course is never gonna happen
Lewandowski, Vidala and Alcantara attacked the ref after the match. Allegedly.
Thiago should focus on stepping up in big European games. Most overrated CM at the moment if you ask me.
I'm not a fan of Madrid but that video is just some salty Bayern rat having a rank. I clearly remember when Bayern benefited from ref mistakes 2 years ago against Juventus in both matches, Rummenige told to Juventus,"Big clubs don't complain about bad refereeing". Surprise, surprise was caught bitching this morning.
That 2ND foul Casemiro made was actually a yellow card and Casemiro got it I believe. And it's amusing how conveniently that video wont show that tackle Vidal made on Isco at the start of the 2ND half.
"Maybe we shouldn't be seen in Madrid's hangout after that match, it might get people talking"
-not Kassai and his team