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Hoping he fancies getting involved. More interesting with him. Raises topics we don't cover otherwise.
Hoping he fancies getting involved. More interesting with him. Raises topics we don't cover otherwise.
Unemployment has been good. 2010, a lot of my friends were really struggling for work. Things have definitely improved on that front.
But then, we are 9 years away from the crash now
Hoping he fancies getting involved. More interesting with him. Raises topics we don't cover otherwise.
The ONS.
153b was the general government deficit.
103b was the budget deficit.
One is the difference between what goes out and what comes in, one is how much needs to be borrowed to cover the expenditure. The difference should be obvious to all the economists on here.
I think he means debt when he says deficit.
This is plain wrong. Not only was debt at one of the lowest points it had ever been during the New Labour period, but Blairs Labour was one of the few Governments in modern history to run several years at a surplus.
Indeed. Thats a harder metric to quantify.True, although another debate would be in regards to the quality of work - whether people are earning enough to get by, the prevalence of zero-hour contracts, temporary contracts, part-time as opposed to full-time etc.
So you're right. Now I'm confused, whys there's so many other sources saying otherwise?![]()
There is a time lag before a deficit change greatly affects the debt levels. Just like you can't immediately turn the tap off to erase a deficit you can't turn it on to erase a surplus. Blair was lucky to inherit a decent economy at the end of some difficult times and at the beginning of the internet boom. The trend started under Major.
During the biggest financial boom in the history of the planet, otherwise known as the onset of the internet! So yes of course there was a surplus!
Indeed. Thats a harder metric to quantify.
That's why I said Japan was an example of a public wealth fund. Congratulations on proving you can't read.
Is there a difference between a public wealth fund and government assets? Cos you'll find plenty of support for nationalisation here.
Its not a public wealth fund
One of Jeremy's pledges is along those lines.There's no specific thing called a public wealth fund. Its just a loose term for a government backed investment fund.
Was quite funny having people coming up with complicated scenarios as to how it could be got around, turns out it's kind of worthless as no-one wants to be seen as afraid of an electionWhat's happened to all the geezers that believed in the fixed-term parliament act?
Not heard from them for a bit.
One of Jeremy's pledges is along those lines.
Was quite funny having people coming up with complicated scenarios as to how it could be got around, turns out it's kind of worthless as no-one wants to be seen as afraid of an election
I'm guessing May, should she win, will probably repeal it just because you might as well.
This is old - from September last year - so maybe it's been revised since then. We'll certainly hear more about it in the coming weeks...Really? I presume hes talking about a sovereign wealth fund, in which case he's even more clueless than I thought. You need to run a budget surplus or stumble across a huge oil reserve to set one of those up![]()
You only need a 2/3 vote in the Commons to bypass it, which they got easily yesterday, but the legislation itself stays in place.Wait, is she not repealing it before the election? And if not, how is it not a violation?
This is old - from September last year - so maybe it's been revised since then. We'll certainly hear more about it in the coming weeks...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...-to-make-britain-more-socialist-a7337651.html
Did you read the article?Christ. 500 billion. 'We can borrow it or we can print it'. And people seriously want to vote for this man?
You only need a 2/3 vote in the Commons to bypass it, which they got easily yesterday, but the legislation itself stays in place.
Did you read the article?
Fixed that for you.No. I know that quote was not directly from Cornyn but the people in it are his mouthpieces. That's a lot of money they want to pluck from thin air.
Fixed that for you.
There's no specific thing called a public wealth fund. Its just a loose term for a government backed investment fund.
Average yearly change in borrowing whilst in power (figures from the ONS):
Conservatives - 12.3b reduction
Labour - 9.9b increase
Discounting the 2 biggest impact years of the recession when Labour were in power:
Conservatives - 12.3b reduction
Labour - 1.0b increase
I'd say a Socialist Professor whose competence was questioned even by the Shadow Chancellor himself is not the most reliable source to base an opinion on.
The caf has turned Jippy into a Corbynite.
Me too. Will be my first Labour vote at a GE. Andy Slaughter is a good local MP and battling both Heathrow expansion and the closure of Charing X hospital.
The absolute figure of *borrowing needs the context of the current level of debt or the budget deficit, as well as the number as a proportion of GDP, doesn't it? A "reduction in borrowing" when the ampount of borrowing was already very high doesn't mean much, and vice versa. If the stats in the above tweet are correct, then this change doesn't mean much at all.
*change in
We could probably sell the royal family to get oneReally? I presume hes talking about a sovereign wealth fund, in which case he's even more clueless than I thought. You need to run a budget surplus or stumble across a huge oil reserve to set one of those up![]()
I'm trying to pretend in my head that Slaughter is independent. He hates Corbyn.The caf has turned Jippy into a Corbynite.![]()
So it's not a wealth fund. Glad that's cleared up
Really? I presume hes talking about a sovereign wealth fund, in which case he's even more clueless than I thought. You need to run a budget surplus or stumble across a huge oil reserve to set one of those up![]()
a publicly-owned National Investment Bank and regional banks will back up £500bn of investment across energy, transport and housing.