Classical Mechanic
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I heard Norman Lamb on the radio this morning. Terribly sensible fellow.
I'd be happy enough to pay it if I was sure where it was going.
Actually, I do keep an eye on The Canary. They were late to report on it. See my post from last Tuesday, when an MP wrote a letter about it. Look at the evidence.No ones talking about it because its conspiracy theory nonsense that started on fake news site The Canary.
So having kids is the privilege of the well off now?
Come on that is ridiculous. Kids can grow up happy with no money whilst wealthy people can be terrible parents.
Jesus, what a world that would be, where only the rich get to have children.Having kids is a privilege that is often taken for granted. In my opinion it is absolutely vital that you asses your means before deciding to bring a child into the world. If you're already struggling to make ends meet whatever would push you to make your financial situation even worse by introducing a child into the equation? The emotional side of things unfortunately is not enough because you can't feed yourself with love.
I am a father myself. I decided that I wanted to give my child the best possible start in life so opted for a private school. Me and my wife would like to have another child but currently we wouldn't be able to afford the same arrangement so we decided to wait until our circumstances change. Ours is not even a case of being able to make ends meet but rather a lifestyle choice so I can't comprehend how those who would struggle would make that decision.
Absolutely, some people are just not qualified to have kids at all but I think having your kids go to school hungry is a bigger issue than spoiling them to oblivion.
Having kids is a privilege that is often taken for granted. In my opinion it is absolutely vital that you asses your means before deciding to bring a child into the world. If you're already struggling to make ends meet whatever would push you to make your financial situation even worse by introducing a child into the equation? The emotional side of things unfortunately is not enough because you can't feed yourself with love.
I am a father myself. I decided that I wanted to give my child the best possible start in life so opted for a private school. Me and my wife would like to have another child but currently we wouldn't be able to afford the same arrangement so we decided to wait until our circumstances change. Ours is not even a case of being able to make ends meet but rather a lifestyle choice so I can't comprehend how those who would struggle would make that decision.
Absolutely, some people are just not qualified to have kids at all but I think having your kids go to school hungry is a bigger issue than spoiling them to oblivion.
Surely we should just steralise the poor and take away the risk. You know, for the sake of the children.Having kids is a privilege that is often taken for granted. In my opinion it is absolutely vital that you asses your means before deciding to bring a child into the world. If you're already struggling to make ends meet whatever would push you to make your financial situation even worse by introducing a child into the equation? The emotional side of things unfortunately is not enough because you can't feed yourself with love.
I am a father myself. I decided that I wanted to give my child the best possible start in life so opted for a private school. Me and my wife would like to have another child but currently we wouldn't be able to afford the same arrangement so we decided to wait until our circumstances change. Ours is not even a case of being able to make ends meet but rather a lifestyle choice so I can't comprehend how those who would struggle would make that decision.
Absolutely, some people are just not qualified to have kids at all but I think having your kids go to school hungry is a bigger issue than spoiling them to oblivion.
Having kids is a privilege that is often taken for granted. In my opinion it is absolutely vital that you asses your means before deciding to bring a child into the world. If you're already struggling to make ends meet whatever would push you to make your financial situation even worse by introducing a child into the equation? The emotional side of things unfortunately is not enough because you can't feed yourself with love.
I am a father myself. I decided that I wanted to give my child the best possible start in life so opted for a private school. Me and my wife would like to have another child but currently we wouldn't be able to afford the same arrangement so we decided to wait until our circumstances change. Ours is not even a case of being able to make ends meet but rather a lifestyle choice so I can't comprehend how those who would struggle would make that decision.
Absolutely, some people are just not qualified to have kids at all but I think having your kids go to school hungry is a bigger issue than spoiling them to oblivion.
If you're going to call it "conspiracy theory nonsense" then please tell us why you think that.No ones talking about it because its conspiracy theory nonsense that started on fake news site The Canary.
The Canary makes no attempt to hide its bias the other way.
There is nothing wrong with taking your financial decision into account when deciding whether or not to have kids. Everything else is the problem.I don't see much wrong with that post myself, unless I'm misunderstanding what he's saying.
I certainly wouldn't decide to have a child unless I thought I was both emotionally and financially able to cope.
Obviously that doesn't mean poorer people shouldn't have children. Someone with relatively little income might well decide they're nonetheless in a position to handle the financial strain of having a child. They'd be stupid not to take that factor into consideration though if they're actually in a position to make the decision in that way.
Already we are off to a great start. Who are these people who are taking advantage of having children? What does this even mean? People were having children before democracy, before industry, before literacy, before language. Having children is not a privilege given to us but anything except the gods or fate if that's your kind of thing. No one died for our right to have children.Having kids is a privilege that is often taken for granted.
Of course the financial side of thing is important, but it's not the most important. I've met rich kids who had a terrible childhood, and I've met poor kids who had a childhood that I would dream of having. One of my best friends grew up very poor, on benefits, etc. He's now a hot shot in London earning more a year than I will earn in a decade.In my opinion it is absolutely vital that you asses your means before deciding to bring a child into the world.
Firstly, in almost any financial situation, kids are going to make it worse. They aren't cheap. Secondly, being poor shouldn't mean not being able to feed your kids. If we live in a country where kids are going un-fed, that's atrocious, and the tories should declare moral bankruptcy right now. Thirdly, the rich can become poor, just like the poor can become rich.If you're already struggling to make ends meet whatever would push you to make your financial situation even worse by introducing a child into the equation? The emotional side of things unfortunately is not enough because you can't feed yourself with love.
The ultimate qualification.I am a father myself.
fecking hell! So you've opted not to have a child because you can't afford to send him to some fancy private school. Wait a private primary school? What is the point of a private primary school? Let your kids have some fun! I can understand sending your kids to a private secondary school, but why private primary!?I decided that I wanted to give my child the best possible start in life so opted for a private school. Me and my wife would like to have another child but currently we wouldn't be able to afford the same arrangement so we decided to wait until our circumstances change. Ours is not even a case of being able to make ends meet but rather a lifestyle choice so I can't comprehend how those who would struggle would make that decision.
Waiting forever simply isn't an option. Waiting for your finances to improve could lead to not being able to have any children at all. Or alternatively, lead to a greater risk of your child being born with defects such as Downs SyndromeThis 1957 study found that
- By age 30, 7% of couples were infertile
- By age 35, 11% of couples were infertile
- By age 40, 33% of couples were infertile
- At age 45, 87% of couples were infertile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_and_female_fertility
Again, Jesus christ. Letting your kids go to school hungry is terrible, but financial implosion could happen to anyone. Have we no compassion to help?Absolutely, some people are just not qualified to have kids at all but I think having your kids go to school hungry is a bigger issue than spoiling them to oblivion.
Read it.Buzzfeed![]()
“We are absolutely biased,” said Kerry-Anne Mendoza, editor of The Canary, when asked about its approach to covering the news. "We’re biased in favour of social justice, equal rights – those are non-negotiable things. We’re in this as an issue-driven organisation.”"[Nancy Mendoza, Director of Comms and Membership at The Canary] also insisted that The Canary’s news coverage was not biased. She said it was “a complete coincidence” that the website was created less than a month after Corbyn’s leadership victory in 2015. “We don’t have any affiliations with political parties, we don’t have any affiliations with political organisations, and we’re not actually ostensibly left-wing,”".
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Their journalism arm is really good which is bankrolled by their click bait stuff.
Was it written by antisemite Mr Steve Topple, by any chance? Purveyor of conspiracy theories like Portland Communications?No ones talking about it because its conspiracy theory nonsense that started on fake news site The Canary.
Aye, for all the flak they get I've heard there's actually some decent work getting done too.
Would this suggest that the SNP are likely to lose a few seats in the general, or that their position is stronger as the opposition is now more evenly split?
Minor upside to the election would be the SNP slightly losing their perceived mandate, and slowing down talk of another bloody referendum.
Surely we should just steralise the poor and take away the risk. You know, for the sake of the children.
If you're going to call it "conspiracy theory nonsense" then please tell us why you think that.
Thanks for that.Buzzfeed news article discussing it.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamesball/...ous-conspiracy?utm_term=.vnj4Nx0eM#.vw5412KYP
If you're going to call it "conspiracy theory nonsense" then please tell us why you think that.
As for The Canary being a "fake news site", do you not accept that the MSM has been biased and inaccurate in its reporting on Labour, Corbyn and the left in general for years? The Canary makes no attempt to hide its bias the other way.
Still, bigger than UKIP.I'm getting so many emails from the Green Party telling me how bloody happy they are about the results.
We gained very little, despite Labour capitulation.
This is why I don't go to meetings.
I dream of the day we are obsolete cause the government has nicked our platform.Still, bigger than UKIP.
I'm getting so many emails from the Green Party telling me how bloody happy they are about the results.
We gained very little, despite Labour capitulation.
This is why I don't go to meetings.
They are but, you know, name me a party that isn't?That and they're loonies.![]()
They are but, you know, name me a party that isn't?
Loonies with good intentions over loonies with bad ones.
Corb would really love to be a Green. Never know these days.I dream of the day we are obsolete cause the government has nicked our platform.
He would. Poor fecker. All he meant to do was encourage debate. Things got rather out of hand.Corb would really love to be a Green. Never know these days.
This'll go down well...
This'll go down well...
Those pesky bastards wanting representation that reflects their views. I wish they'd just go away so the clearly electable candidate the PLP will put forward can win. I mean, they'll be so obviously brilliant that it seems a waste of time to offer an alternative, not to mention the savings on posting ballots out.Dan jarvis?
Though the corbynistas will probably try and lumber us with long Bailey or burgon as the next leader
Yet to see anything from Jarvis that suggests he has any political talent whatsoever if I'm honest. That's the main problem generally really, it's difficult to point to anyone and say "they're definite leadership material". Though to be honest, the next leader is more likely to be doing the rebuilding job of Kinnock rather than the winning job of Blair.Dan jarvis?
Though the corbynistas will probably try and lumber us with long Bailey or burgon as the next leader
Obviously it's not about Blair himself, just someone with his ability. And as I say above, there isn't one, so yeah it is kind of stupid, but it's more a response to the idea that the current Tory and Brexit narrative could never have been prevented.It's a bit of a stupid premise isn't it?
We know that with a clean slate he's capable of getting elected into power. The trouble is, he's not got a clean slate, he's basically a war criminal and as slippery as they come. I mean, Jimmy Savile was a charismatic weirdo too and if you met him for the first time and you didn't know his crimes he could probably be quite charming.