General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%

  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
OT but I heard a joke today....

"Got home to find my electric on the meter had run out and the fridge/freezer had defrosted. Oh well, it's all water under the fridge now..."
 
Drainy said:
Have you ever had to clean up your own mother's piss?
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I looked after my Dad when he had Alzheimer's. He was a very proud man. He would lie in a wet bed rather than call out. It was causing him bad skin problems. I took to sleeping on the floor beside him and assured him I was there to help. He walked so slow and was so unable to control his bladder that he often pissed himself enroute to the loo. He often cried when it happened. So fecking sad.
 
DenisIrwin said:
I looked after my Dad when he had Alzheimer's. He was a very proud man. He would lie in a wet bed rather than call out. It was causing him bad skin problems. I took to sleeping on the floor beside him and assured him I was there to help. He walked so slow and was so unable to control his bladder that he often pissed himself enroute to the loo. He often cried when it happened. So fecking sad.
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Terribly sad- I've very sorry to hear it and you sound like a very caring person- I was only referencing The Thick of It- where a similar interaction occurred between a member of the public and an awkward MP (in case you haven't seen it/don't recall the scene).

It does speak to the bubble that the political class live in, and how cuts to benefits and care packages are only numbers on a spreadsheet to them. We are in an unfortunate position where the tories will be able to enact austerity for the foreseeable future and will get no repercussions beyond the occasional public scalding.
 
Damien said:
No chance. If May cared at all about the NHS, he wouldn't have been picked to be in her cabinet in the first place. His time under Cameron was nothing but a disaster.

We've seen their mental health (and learning disability) policy over the last few years. If you've got two working arms and legs, you're fecked. Constant assessments, them taking the position that most lie and so turn down the applications, then those who fail have to appeal and go through more suffering. Some decide to end it all rather than go through the torture again.
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DenisIrwin said:
I looked after my Dad when he had Alzheimer's. He was a very proud man. He would lie in a wet bed rather than call out. It was causing him bad skin problems. I took to sleeping on the floor beside him and assured him I was there to help. He walked so slow and was so unable to control his bladder that he often pissed himself enroute to the loo. He often cried when it happened. So fecking sad.
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"Yeah but Corbyn..."
 
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Drainy said:
Terribly sad- I've very sorry to hear it and you sound like a very caring person- I was only referencing The Thick of It- where a similar interaction occurred between a member of the public and an awkward MP (in case you haven't seen it/don't recall the scene).

It does speak to the bubble that the political class live in, and how cuts to benefits and care packages are only numbers on a spreadsheet to them. We are in an unfortunate position where the tories will be able to enact austerity for the foreseeable future and will get no repercussions beyond the occasional public scalding.
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I'm sorry, but I just don't get this kind of thing. I often get similar comments from my daughters and I still don't get it. "It's just natural", I say. Well... isn't it????
 
Dobba said:
"Yeah but Corbyn..."
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My wife is a nurse. Brother in law a doctor.

They think as wonderful as the NHS is...and it is, it's run by idiots, gravy trainers and excuse machines. But the procurement gets them enraged.

Ask yourself this...why does a PACKET of Ibuprofen cost 40p at Tesco's yet 70p PER PILL for the NHS?

Times this shit/non negotiation by a zillion, and add in a few rip-off MRI's machines and their insanely made-up Walt Disney running costs and all of a sudden things become very clear indeed.
 
Unmutual said:
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Is that from Twitter, Facebook or Instagram? How many followers did Foot have on social media?
 
Dobba said:
Oh you're very much mistaken. Your mental gymnastics are hilarious.
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So even though the public made it clear they wouldn't vote for him from day 1 of his leadership, we stick with him anyway, then blame the public for doing what they said they would do? Incredible hubris.
 
Unmutual said:
So even though the public made it clear they wouldn't vote for him from day 1 of his leadership, we stick with him anyway, then blame the public for doing what they said they would do? Incredible hubris.
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Let me guess, the only possible solution is for him to stand down and one of the great welfare abstainers come in? Where has all this 'we' shit come from as well?
 
Fearless said:
My wife is a nurse. Brother in law a doctor.

They think as wonderful as the NHS is...and it is, it's run by idiots, gravy trainers and excuse machines. But the procurement gets them enraged.

Ask yourself this...why does a PACKET of Ibuprofen cost 40p at Tesco's yet 70p PER PILL for the NHS?

Times this shit/non negotiation by a zillion, and add in a few rip-off MRI's machines and their insanely made-up Walt Disney running costs and all of a sudden things become very clear indeed.
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I do procurement for a living, and outsourcing of procurement. I have been slated massively on here for even suggesting that there could be some savings for outsourcing this non core activity. The NHS are really shit at buying commodity products and services, but let's not let that get in the way of getting a better bang for the taxpayer's buck.
 
Unmutual said:
I see you've done that thing again where you grab the wrong end of the stick and just run with it.
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There was an end to that particular stick?

Chorley1974 said:
I do procurement for a living, and outsourcing of procurement. I have been slated massively on here for even suggesting that there could be some savings for outsourcing this non core activity. The NHS are really shit at buying commodity products and services, but let's not let that get in the way of getting a better bang for the taxpayer's buck.
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Who exactly would you outsource it to?
 
Chorley1974 said:
I do procurement for a living, and outsourcing of procurement. I have been slated massively on here for even suggesting that there could be some savings for outsourcing this non core activity. The NHS are really shit at buying commodity products and services, but let's not let that get in the way of getting a better bang for the taxpayer's buck.
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Similar things could (should) be applied to military procurement as well...
In fact let's be honest public services are generally shit at structuring commercial deals (education being another sector that's shit at buying... police etc etc)
 
Tom Bradby is good at ITN anchor, taking the piss out of the 'strong and stable' phrase. Nice for a UK anchor to actually have a bit of personality.
 
DenisIrwin said:
I looked after my Dad when he had Alzheimer's. He was a very proud man. He would lie in a wet bed rather than call out. It was causing him bad skin problems. I took to sleeping on the floor beside him and assured him I was there to help. He walked so slow and was so unable to control his bladder that he often pissed himself enroute to the loo. He often cried when it happened. So fecking sad.
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Sorry to hear that mate, my mum has MS and whilst she is still mostly mobile at the moment, the day she wont be isnt that far off. Like your Dad she is very proud, and I can see her not asking for help a mile away.
 
Unmutual said:
So even though the public made it clear they wouldn't vote for him from day 1 of his leadership, we stick with him anyway, then blame the public for doing what they said they would do? Incredible hubris.
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What the feck are you on about? He's been voted for as leader twice, overwhelmingly. He's getting massive crowds everywhere he goes. Has he not visited your planet yet, is that your beef?
 
MoBeats said:
What the feck are you on about? He's been voted for as leader twice, overwhelmingly. He's getting massive crowds everywhere he goes. Has he not visited your planet yet, is that your beef?
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So presumably you expect him to win on June 8th, and will alter your opinion if he's beaten?
 
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