I agree. Totally.
Manchester Arena Bombing 22.05.17
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I agree. Totally.
Indeed. both utterly thick quotes.
Is that really the "best metaphor" he could come up with as well - a comparison to exiting a sauna? If it wasnt so tragic it is absolutely comic.
And people sign up for this shit after lsitening to that nonsense. Unbelievable.
Hopefully between both clubs they can donate a lot.
Many of the victims will need expensive medical care for a long time.
And families of the victims deserve a personal memorial.
Police and armed troops are at this moment raiding a block of flats in Central Manchester.
On Granby Row near Piccadilly Train Station I think.
On Granby Row near Piccadilly Train Station I think.
You also have to feel sorry for her too.
The emotional guilt will linger with her for a long time as Rado mentioned, even though it is entirely not her fault.
Thanks for the interesting replies, mate.
Para 1: It's just that in the context of recent events, that 'delight' seems awful...
Para 2: I don't mean to sound harsh or flippant but if 'everything is permitted' for a follower, well, what is religion without a moral centre or foundation? Nothing but vested power.
So sorry to hear this. He was friends with several of my friends, I absolutely loved his Deirdre tattoo. RIP
Anyone find all the reporting about the homeless guys a bit odd? Like, they're humans. They're either gonna help or run for their lives, like everyone else. It's like they're making out it's surprising they would help because they're homeless.
I've just read that Chelsea have cancelled their victory parade on Sunday and will be making donation to the fund. They are also wearing black armbands on Saturday.
No words. RIP
Jesus. Thankfully I'm on the other side of town. Was half expecting to see troops outside Oxford Road station this morning after there being armed police there yesterday.
You can't imprison people who haven't committed any crime (although going training in Syria is a crime). What we need to do is come down harder on those who prepare and commit these attacks and especially those who turn a blind eye to them. Too many people think standing by their community matters more than the country and society. Unfortunately the current social climate won't allow any of that and we'll all be back here saying the same things the next time an attack happens.
This insane assholes keeping plowing through people with trucks, blowing buildings, beheading people, using nail bombs at children. But they aren't terrorist, just misguided people who aren't happy with themselves. Unbelievable.
As someone pointed, of course it's insane to consider texts of thousands of years as a literal guide to faith. But religion is not based on reason.
Even Christianity had a "revisionism" with the New Testament, from the Savage God from the Old one. The quran is actually the contrary. With the passage form Mecca to Medina, Muhammad went increasingly violent and spread the military mentality seen in Muslim narrative today.
There are a majority of muslims that live well and are part of the society (like the people I've met until today), but even a minority is capable of pulling shit like that, time and time again. To simply carry on like nothing happen, and show them "bravery", is a very risky strategy.
Great gestures by Chelsea.
this is a bit (very) OTT
try telling that to the idiots.
I think we have to be honest at look at probable cause. It's an evil act, comitted by someone with a distorted, fecked up ideology. I don't think it's entirely due to misconstrued religious doctrine, nor is it entirely as a result of foreign policy. I think it's a mixture. The guy "showed his evil face" to his Immam, when he preached against ISIS. So... he was sympathetic to ISIS. So sympathetic that he was prepared to die for it and take a lot of innocent young lives with him. You have to look at his background, look at the things that influenced him, look at what drives ISIS, in order to try to understand. Only if we understand can we hope to prevent similar attrocities being committed in future. I'm sorry to break it to you - but that means thinking about politics, at least as much as about religion.
Yeah fair play to them. I'm quite surprised by this anyway.
I'd imagine they've been advised to avoid giving reason for thousands of fans to line the streets and that it is to avoid further stretching the overloaded police force in London as much as anything else.
Who said "everything is permitted"? The jihadi groups with global appeal, including even ISIS, have a strong moral/ethical content to their ideology which I think most Westerners fail to take seriously. It's completely at odds with our own, of course, but it's there nonetheless and it makes (heavily contested) claims on issues and questions that go back into early Islamic thought and history.
What makes the Islamic State Islamic is not the name they give themselves, or the idea that they are actually correct in their interpretation of Islamic doctrine (which is not something non-Muslims can really determine in any case). It's that they justify their actions with reference to a number of continuing, centuries-old debates which have shaped intra-Islamic discourse as it stands at this point. Their particular stance on many of these issues, especially as they relate to the legitimate use of violence, places them on the periphery of these debates; but the claims they make are couched in the same rhetorical world, and make appeals to the same basic body of authoritative texts deemed legitimate by all (Sunni) Muslims.
Yeah of course, and it's not helped by the Daily Mails article about her being a target because of how she dresses.
Really? fecking twats. I really do despise the Daily Mail and i mean that word in its full force.
They're saying it's likely he was working with others.
Not sure if this has already been posted but the Burj Khalifa last night:
Heard "Don't Look Back In Anger" on the radio earlier and welled up. Song has taken on new meaning. #DontLookBackInAnger
John Terry will still find a way to make it about him...
So sad to hear about this
I was at Piccadilly half an hour ago and didn't see anything.
Your assertion is simply not true.
For example: Bush, bLiar and Trump have all used interpretations from their Christian faith as moral justification for their own murderous acts of war or terrorism (depending on which lens you choose to view their acts).
A very cursory and simple google search will also highlight many other examples.
My mate lives there and the whole block has been evacuated
Religion is not exactly logical, and in one's relation to a god, the individual is always looking for his salvation or reward.
Yep....
"You mean... I can just evict these people and take their land???"
"Yep! My imaginary friend says it's fine because your are one of the chosen people and he always planned for you to have it."
"You mean... If I blow myself and scores of innocent people to kingdom come I will be rewarded in the next life? Really? Come on!"
"Yep! It is written! Go ahead. Would you like some help?"
I was on blue moon last night and a good bit of them, maybe a third, said they'd be rooting for us.
Here's how I would explain the role of Christianity in helping rationalize stuff like the Iraq War, and in modern Western life generally:
The idea that 'the West' is uniquely secular simply doesn't hold when we examine some of the assumptions and language underlying Western liberalism.
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Good on them. My City family and friends are rooting for us too.
Point I'm trying to make is that what the suicide thingy is what sets Islamic terrorists apart from other murdering shitheads, and is what makes them the most dangerous and difficult to stop. It was mainly directed at people who constantly claim that these things have nothing to do with Islam, being rewarded for dying in the name of Allah, however these bastards chose to interpret it has everything to do with islam
Oh gosh....found that quite moving.
Still can't believe they deliberately went after our daughters. Young innocents.