General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
The old have also seen their savings eroded by ZRP. Old people don't face rising costs too?
In general yes, but I wouldn't put so much emphasis on Brexit, but more to reaction to the financial crash of 2008. If governments had decided to inflate their way out of debt (which I erroneously expected) then asset holders would have lost out, but instead governments decided to print money to keep interest rates on that debt affordable. Not good for the long term I feel, or I might be talking bollocks, it's late after all.
QUOTE="Jippy, post: 20979113, member: 47548"]The old have also seen their savings eroded by ZRP. Old people don't face rising costs too?[/QUOTE]
Of course they do, but the youth have come off of a decade of high youth unemployment, low wages, high rent and high house prices.
When an older gen gets into financial distress, they could lose their home. Which of course is shocking and horrible. But when a younger gen gets into distress, they dont have a home to lose.
Note - im not saying everything is the fault of the over 50 year olds, just that without a doubt the youth are being hardest hit. They didnt vote for brexit, but will have it forced upon them. They didn't vote for the tories but will have thatbforced upon them too. The way this country treats our elderly is quite shocking, but that's another problem
Of course they do, but the youth have come off of a decade of high youth unemployment, low wages, high rent and high house prices.
When an older gen gets into financial distress, they could lose their home. Which of course is shocking and horrible. But when a younger gen gets into distress, they dont have a home to lose.
Note - im not saying everything is the fault of the over 50 year olds, just that without a doubt the youth are being hardest hit. They didnt vote for brexit, but will have it forced upon them. They didn't vote for the tories but will have thatbforced upon them too. The way this country treats our elderly is quite shocking, but that's another problem
Well, not really a surprise, but...
Complete rubbish though. Hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs in the finance industry and bonuses/pay rises are almost non existent relative to pre recession. Still, the truth doesn't make for such a good youtube clip.
Hundreds of thousands?
It's also a twitter poll and not worth the pixels it's taking up.
OK
Roughly 200,000 redundancies from the UK banks since the recession.
That's not counting this last year where there have been more big cuts, or non-bank financial services companies.
Is this their first time doing an election ? The Survation poll has the young turnout at around 80% which seems completely overboard.
Yep I predict Tory gains.
Parliament's aren't hung and witches ain't hanged. More's the pity.
Parliament's aren't hung and witches ain't hanged. More's the pity.
I understand why a lot of you are sceptical about the polls but I also think you underestimate the effect the Labour manifesto is having on people coupled with the shambles over in the Conservative camp and May's piss poor performance.
If the EU referendum is anything to go by it showed that people voting in this country do not give two shits about the economy or the stability of this country so the Cons can bang on all they want with their misleading claims about Labour bankrupting the country previously its bot getting any traction with voters.
In the EU referendum I was certain remain was going to win, it was unthinkable for it not to. However all ai could see online was a massive support for leave. People arguing left right and centre for it. I can see the same now for Labour and Corbyn. People are starting to see through the media propaganda and are warming to him as a person and the Labour policies. If this measure is anything to go by then my £200 on 10/1 Labour most seats is banker
But seriously, I was an absolute Corbyn hater. It's well documented on this forums but I really do think he's pulled it out of the bag with this election. He's woncme over and he's really struck a cord with people who can see that the Conservative way is not what this country needs and that Theresa May is as strong and stable as the Millenium Bridge. The Tories made a miscalculation thinking they could fight this election on Brexit alone and it's why Labour are reaping the rewards.
If the EU referendum is anything to go by it showed that people voting in this country do not give two shits about the economy or the stability of this country so the Cons can bang on all they want with their misleading claims about Labour bankrupting the country previously its bot getting any traction with voters.
In the EU referendum I was certain remain was going to win, it was unthinkable for it not to. However all ai could see online was a massive support for leave. People arguing left right and centre for it. I can see the same now for Labour and Corbyn. People are starting to see through the media propaganda and are warming to him as a person and the Labour policies. If this measure is anything to go by then my £200 on 10/1 Labour most seats is banker
But seriously, I was an absolute Corbyn hater. It's well documented on this forums but I really do think he's pulled it out of the bag with this election. He's woncme over and he's really struck a cord with people who can see that the Conservative way is not what this country needs and that Theresa May is as strong and stable as the Millenium Bridge. The Tories made a miscalculation thinking they could fight this election on Brexit alone and it's why Labour are reaping the rewards.
May's cronies have infiltrated the Caf! Boo!!
Really is tiresome now listening to the same old Tory rhetoric. As I've said before, Gardiner has been impressive in this election.
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I took the political compass test again last night and was watching some of Owen jones' videos. Now this nightmare in the morning.
At least I know they're wasting their money targeting adverts on me when I won't change my vote.
Did that cover the May porn story?
They'll worm into your brain with their propaganda. You'll be buying the Daily Mail in 6 months..
Everytime you see a Tory ad click on it. Uses their budget up and they don't target you anymore
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Tory fan magazine is bringing out the big guns.
Labour must be getting closer.
Labour must be getting closer.
That's really not what that article says at all.
The markets don't want Brexit to happen. The Tories are going ahead with a hard Brexit, any option that goes for a compromise exit or no exit at all may be better for the pound all else being equal.
Just watching the Paxman interviews. Why are all those fecking morons in the audience clapping at 'no deal is better than a bad deal'? It's such a ridiculously empty soundbite. I hate people.
And because they clapped, she repeats it 6 times. And they clap again. For fecks sake..
And because they clapped, she repeats it 6 times. And they clap again. For fecks sake..
Whilst I think this statement is a bit short sighted, I think the fact this poll in particular is coming from Martyn Lewis MSE says a fair bit about the demographic in the results. Also, the cynic in me says a few Labour voters picked Corbyn (& I'm not Labour) just for mind games. I know I would.
Don't think Corbyn is a fan of a certain youtube channel.
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Must be, they are the only ones carrying the story(Well the express has something about immigration but it's just plan racism and no mention of the Labour Party)
Our best hope for PR in the near future is a hung parliament, with a tenuous Lab/Lib/SNP coalition. The big Tory win that will inevitably happen will set us back at least two more terms. Feck.
If we enter a strange universe where Labour actually win can we give a tagline to whoever has used the word 'unelectable' the most
it is funny how depressing the political situation looked after Brexit and Trump... it could still be depressing but just the hope of the likes of Trump and May facing impending doom has brought a smile to my face.
The only problem is the majority of labour and SNP MPs don't want PR, for obvious reasons.
Would the PR campaign even win a referendum on the subject?
Would we not be better off asking for a PR House of Lords (which there is actually a public willpower to see democratically elected), and for the British Public to spend 20 years getting used to what PR is?
Same, tone has changed completely. I even heard the classic "someone like David Miliband would have walked this election".
*Waits for Dobba to reply with a lol*
Labour sure, but I was under the impression that the SNP have always supported some kind of electoral reform. If Labour sees they are no longer the main beneficiaries of FPTP they might change their mind on the issue. You also have to think it would be a sticking point of any negotiation involving the LibDems.