Takes his glasses off.... come fight me biiiiitch!
Corbyn drops the mic.
Turns to the big screen. And waits.
Does May's music play or will the crowd just boo the no show?
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Corbyn drops the mic.
Turns to the big screen. And waits.
Does May's music play or will the crowd just boo the no show?
I disagree. I half think they will remove Rudd...
But if not, Corbyn will tear May apart for not appearing.
Imagine the Liar Liar song playing half way through and her strolling in
Oh dear. Alright. This is definitely it though. It was a quote from the MEN article linked to in the blog - which was apparently a quote from the emails.
disagree, loads of people like me were never going to vote Labour, but after how he's performed over the last few week we're wavering and a good performance tonight could swing many myself included.
I've Tory mates who were going to vote Tory but are now possibly not going to vote due to May and Fallon's performances and the manifesto. If this is happening in a Tory stronghold then the key area's the Tories are targeting then the I've no doubt the same thoughts could be going through peoples minds there too.
At the moment I still expect the Tories to win but it could be with a very small majority.
I just hope she doesn't appear Stone Cold Steve Austin style, but maybe this is how it should be - they should wrestle for victory.
Blimey I need a coffee.
Blimey I need a coffee.
Its a calculated risk but worth taking. Most of the people there are liberal, so conservatives will be outnumbered and if they overattack labour, lessens chances of a progressive alliance. Also May not being there covers Corbyn, because he can say at least I attended and tried to defend my policies.. where was she?
Also childcare gaffe apart, he has come across pretty clued up and I think the fire is burning right now, he wants it badly and he's going in for the kill.
He might feck up, but who cares.. no regrets.
Also childcare gaffe apart, he has come across pretty clued up and I think the fire is burning right now, he wants it badly and he's going in for the kill.
He might feck up, but who cares.. no regrets.
I love the way he's simply calling her out too like it's a WWF interview in the ring
Any time. Any place.
"Come and have a debate, if you think you're hard enough."
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There's definitely a huge opportunity there to make the point that if she can't even debate tonight how can she be trusted to negotiate with the EU leaders.
Of course neither will do the negotiations anyway but the Tories have already implied differently.
Of course neither will do the negotiations anyway but the Tories have already implied differently.
No pressure on Rudd tonight, just has to single-handedly keep a flailing campaign alive
Tories won't lose, not with the shy Tory factor, but lessening their gains is damn important. We needs Corbyn to do well here, I think the other parties must help, they cannot attack Labour here or it makes them look shit too.
As usual Angus Robertson will probably be the best at challenging the tories record. Farron will probably just complain about everyone and pretend he's relevant.
If the Tories do actually manage to end up with an overall majority (decidedly uncertain at this point), i wouldn't be at all surprised were Amber Rudd to be promoted to Chancellor.
Could be generational reasons, could be geographic; the family is not from Hampstead at least.
Nor i, the post comes across as denigrating and dehumanising. Out of line IMO.
Could be generational reasons, could be geographic; the family is not from Hampstead at least.
Nor i, the post comes across as denigrating and dehumanising. Out of line IMO.
No pressure on Rudd tonight, just has to single-handedly keep a flailing campaign alive
She's a considerably better speaker than May though, at least going by QT appearances.
That's not exactly saying much though. (was about to make a very tasteless joke, but managed to filter myself for once..
)She's definitely better, trouble is that this obviously reflects badly on May even aside from her refusing to turn up.
She is but its telling that when they're refocusing on Brexit the person they put forward is the home secretary.
They don't even trust their Brexit Secretary or Foreign Secretary enough to go on a televised debate.
It's a gamble worth taking for Corbyn. He'd have to have a car crash for the bad publicity to outweigh May running away.
Can't see the Greens and the SNP piling in too hard on him and you'd hope Paul Nuttall, who is trying to win back UKIP voters from the Conservatives, will be going after them.
Can't see the Greens and the SNP piling in too hard on him and you'd hope Paul Nuttall, who is trying to win back UKIP voters from the Conservatives, will be going after them.
Just like she had to cover for Jeremy Hunt when he hid during the wannacry thing.No pressure on Rudd tonight, just has to single-handedly keep a flailing campaign alive
To quote the man himself - ''Here we...here we...here we fecking go.
I don't think it will turn out well for Labour tonight. Not because I expect Corbyn to perform badly -- I think he'll do well. But because I think the Tories have calculated that in the absence of May, the other parties (esp. Farron) will all turn on Corbyn and it'll be a blood bath. Instead of the focus being on May and the Tories failures, it'll be petty squabbling over who Corbyn has appeared with, etc.
That and the papers will tear him apart him tomorrow.
That and the papers will tear him apart him tomorrow.
Ordinarily he'd have to have a car crash but with every major paper and news outlet in the country backing May, he could get slaughtered for anything.
Still, aside from Rudd miserably falling to pieces, which won't happen as she's quite competent, this is a lose/lose situation for the Tories. If Rudd does very well it just highlights how crap May is. The gamble they've taken is that May is far enough ahead in the polls to act like a sovereign instead of a politician. I hope it backfires.
For once I'm not sure they will. There's been a lot of talk about a progressive alliance even if its not formalized. The SNP know what is at stake, and that Labour are much more likely to give them a referendum.
I really doubt it. The SNP and the Greens have been positive towards Corbyn whenever they've spoken of him (Green's will have a dig about the environment but that's it I think). The SNP want Labour to split the unionist vote in Scotland and the Greens are realistic enough to know there's only a handful of constituencies they can win in.
Farron's the wild card, but I don't think any of the parties see him as a threat.
Didn't seem to have much effect after the last one when they tried it. It's easy to draw a Trump esque comparison with Corbyn; we know that whatever he says or does the MSM will hammer him for it, but it no longer seems to have an effect. Over the weekend I've been back at home and out of my University bubble, and it is noticeable that it's not just Labour supporters who think Corbyn is getting treated unfairly by the press.
Dare we hope? Imagine! A Labour majority and this *unt out. What a cause for celebration that would be!
At the same time, Corbyn's already no-showed at one debate and has decided to do this one on the day of it.
Tonight's debate should start with 6 of them standing there & one 'empty chair' - as they call it. Then Rudd has to walk on to take her place up. For a fair representation kinda thing.
True but May hasn't show up at all and even her "public appearances" are closed off to anyone other than those who will cheer her. For someone whose entire public image is based around how strong she is, she isn't half frightened of being taken to account. Then again, she always found a way to shirk responsibility when she was, by all accounts, a useless home secretary.
And no Theresa May might be better than bad Theresa May.
Making my bingo card right now. One square has "Rudd will say May isn't there because she's busy running the country and getting us the best deal for Brexit."
I've sent my postal vote today. The first time I've done this so fingers crossed I haven't done it wrong.
Regardless of what happens tonight, May not being there reflects badly on her.
That's not exactly saying much though. (was about to make a very tasteless joke, but managed to filter myself for once..
It's not only that she is better relative to a wilting May, but rather that Rudd is genuinely capable in that sort of environment.
Initially, perhaps, but once the policy exchanges start flying its importance will diminish somewhat. Most importantly for the Conservatives tonight, is the need to go on the attack in the debate (which the Home Sec will be good at). Sure, the character/judgement of Corbyn was a worthy target, but the economy and Brexit should be the focus from here-on (the Labour manifesto is dubious in both regards).
I'm not sure that's quite fair on Davis, given that his ministry isn't one of the principal offices of state.
She definitely looks bad, but I'm just not sure of the mileage Corbyn can get out of it himself by grandstanding. Ed was saying similar things to Cameron in 2015 without much success and he turned up to all the debates, but then Cameron was at least comfortable enough in his own skin to get away with it.
I love the way he's simply calling her out too like it's a WWF interview in the ring
Any time. Any place.
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