This. Makes me laugh when May uses Brexit negotiating as a reason to vote for her when her party got us into this mess accidentally.
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This. Makes me laugh when May uses Brexit negotiating as a reason to vote for her when her party got us into this mess accidentally.
I just wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror knowing I voted for someone who wants to obliterate our civil liberties, reintroduce fox hunting, consistently shaft the poorest in our society whilst lining the pockets of the richest and oversee the wholesale dismantling of our public services. If I agree with Corbyns policies is almost irrelevant, at least I believe he genuinely wants things to be good for the majority of people. His heart is in the right place as opposed to in a jar in a hollowed out volcano lair.
You can't blame the Tories for the referendum or welfare cuts or any of the other shit in their own fecking manifesto because... well you can't spell Jeremiah without IRA.
Interesting, think a lot of people have reached that conclusion to be honest. My office has always been 95% tory but ive spoken to a lot of people who echo your sentiments
If they only won 292 seats surely they wouldn't be forming any coalition government? They'd be 34 seats short of a majority, surely that would mean a Labour/SNP coalition?
I can't see the Tories losing 40 seats though, you can get 20/1 on them going under 300 seats.
Very interesting article by Polly on the Guardian.
Couple of interesting points
Couple of interesting points
- Just 639 voters could have made it a hung parliament last time
- 74% of votes were redundant
- 103 Tory and 67 Labour seats have never changed since 1945
lol no I haven't seen the video. Lol I was thinking he just "accidently" spilt a load of milk on them to ruin them.
Just voted, possibly for the last ever time.
I am not optimistic.
I am not optimistic.
Shit weather all across Scotland today - expecting a crap turnout and a good 8-12 seats for the Tories. Could well mitigate any potential Labour gains down where you lot are.
Did you vote for Hezbollah?
Its strange, a lot of people I know have gotten more right wing as they have gotten older, Ive gone the other way
Jezbollah.
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What?
parody
That would cause a pandemic of diseased across the UK with all those ballets soaked in random peoples blood and combined with every other vote. We could then blame all the death and disease on the Muslims.
Win-Win!
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These local council cuts are really hitting home:
Imagine he can't imagine voting for someone rather more 'centrist' than Corbyn and thinks this will be his only opportunity.
Am I missing some inside joke?
read the post where I was responding to someone saying they have voted but are not optimistic of the outcome
Disillusionment man. If the Tories predictably win I can see Labour reverting back to their Blairite ways. That'll probably be the start of my new political apathy
Edit: what @DiseaseOfTheAge said. Unless I move to Brighton that is.
These local council cuts are really hitting home:
I was expecting a picture of a load of EDF thinking they were marching to confront a congregation of Polish people.
Disillusionment man. If the Tories predictably win I can see Labour reverting back to their Blairite ways. That'll probably be the start of my new political apathy
Edit: what @DiseaseOfTheAge said. Unless I move to Brighton that is.
A Blairite's still better than a Tory. Even if only just.
Everyone knows Dogs would vote Labour. Your dog hates you Ruth
Vote for Wilson
She'd better hope it doesn't resemble a fox.
I can't in good conscience be able to vote for a faction in the party that attempted to undermine the leader from the get go, creating this notion of him being unelectable.
Then there's the Iraq war connection which is very personal to me.
Its pretty much Labour as they are now or bust. Perhaps a little naive or bitter but I'm done holding my nose everytime I vote.
So I'm torn between who to vote for this afternoon. I recently moved constituencies and I know nothing about my Labour candidate, but his Twitter paints a decent picture. The SNP candidate however is already our MP and according to folk who have lived here a while he gets involved in a lot of local events (which is important to me, nothing worse than a politician who just sits about and takes a paycheck).
If it was a straight choice between leaders then I'd vote Labour, but since it's for a local candidate I'm stumped... It was a 30% swing in the SNPs favour last election but before that it was a Labour stronghold so it wouldn't be a wasted vote either way (I hope).
If it was a straight choice between leaders then I'd vote Labour, but since it's for a local candidate I'm stumped... It was a 30% swing in the SNPs favour last election but before that it was a Labour stronghold so it wouldn't be a wasted vote either way (I hope).
I think you fail to understand game theory! You go in full guns blazing and then see what comes out of it. There is always the option to retrench. If you go in half hearted then the will of the people will not be considered at all. So any brexit voter supporting labour are double idiots.
What constituency is it? If it was a big swing from Labour to SNP last time then I'd presume there's no chance of the Tories taking it, in which case you can vote for whoever you want in good conscience. If there is a chance of a Tory win, probably best to stick SNP. Plus a good local MP is always handy.
That's all good and dandy. But your reasoning earlier was to vote Tories because May is a woman and she'll get a good Brexit deal because she'll nag. That is absurd. May from my perspective is a terrible leader, was a terrible home secretary and will get us a terrible deal and will then blame it on the EU. I'm sure you'll disagree, that's politics.
@Snowjoe, now is your time to shine.Just checked BBC Election Latest and all I see is photos of dogs...
And you think a prime minister who can't be arsed to turn up to election debates is going to be the flag bearer for the 'will of the people' ?
No, you go in with a diplomatic approach that you hope will work for the country as a whole while sustaining a decent relationship with our nearest neighbours.
My knowledge of game theory is limited and rusted, I do think I fail to understand your point though, please elaborate? How does accidentally leaving the EU constitute going in guns blazing?
I'm not arguing about brexit (there's another thread about it, and it's been discussed extensively), I just pointed out that the Tory leadership at the time officially didn't want brexit, yet brought it about, and that that surely isn't 'strong and stable'.