Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)

712 said:
You've not answered Oscie's point though, what's the current difference in position on Brexit between Corbyn and the Tories?
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No deal is the worst deal

Rights of eu citizens in the uk

I could go on but if someone cant see any difference at all then they are a lost cause
 
Stanley Road said:
No deal is the worst deal

Rights of eu citizens in the uk

I could go on but if someone cant see any difference at all then they are a lost cause
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Differences will obviously emerge as bills progress through parliament, starting with the EU Withdrawal bill. It could be that Corbyn has been extremely clever, protecting his position, and waiting for the right moment to strike, or it could be that he simply still doesn't know what to do, we'll see.

Not sure about your two examples though. Does Corbyn want a deal at any price, just agree with whatever the EU asks? Obviously not, so I don't see any real difference so far to be honest.
 
Kentonio said:
but the Republican strategy of dominating at a local level and building up was long in the making.
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Well:
As readers of David Daley’s bestselling Ratf**ked know, Rove and his conservative quants responded to the meltdown of Republican power in 2008 with an audacious scheme for retaking power in Washington through control of decennial redistricting. The Midwest was the bullseye. “There are 18 state legislatures,” Rove wrote in the Wall Street Journal,

that have four or fewer seats separating the two parties that are important for redistricting. Seven of these are controlled by Republicans and the other 11 are controlled by Democrats, including the lower houses in Ohio, Wisconsin, Indiana and Pennsylvania. Republican strategists are focused on 107 seats in 16 states. Winning these seats would give them control of drawing district lines for nearly 190 congressional seats.

In the event, as Daley shows, chump change (about $30 million) spent on targeted state races in 2010 produced a revolution in party power with the Republicans winning nearly seven hundred seats and control of key legislatures in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Michigan as well as Florida and North Carolina. Computer-generated redistricting punctually produced a dream map that made Republican control of the House virtually invulnerable until the 2020 census, despite the demographic forces favoring Democrats.

The piece d’resistance was the gerrymandering of Ohio overseen by John Boehner. “The GOP controlled the redrawing of 132 state legislative and 16 congressional districts. Republican redistricting resulted in a net gain for the GOP state house caucus in 2012 and allowed a 12-4 Republican majority to return to the US House of Representatives — despite voters casting only 52 percent of their vote for Republican congressional candidates.” (There are worst cases: in North Carolina in 2012 Democrats won a majority of the congressional vote statewide but gained only four out of thirteen House seats.)
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On a only very tangentially related note how did anyone ever have a conversation with Dan Hodges and think 'Yes, I would like to pay him money for his political insight'.
 
712 said:
Differences will obviously emerge as bills progress through parliament, starting with the EU Withdrawal bill. It could be that Corbyn has been extremely clever, protecting his position, and waiting for the right moment to strike, or it could be that he simply still doesn't know what to do, we'll see.

Not sure about your two examples though. Does Corbyn want a deal at any price, just agree with whatever the EU asks? Obviously not, so I don't see any real difference so far to be honest.
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Well they are just things that he actually said that differ from may.

Your mind is made up so you will never see a difference.
 
Feel bad for the train driver, can see how sick he is listening to these vacuous twerps after only 5 minutes.
 
hobbers said:
Feel bad for the train driver, can see how sick he is listening to these vacuous twerps after only 5 minutes.
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I mostly posted the video because of the views of the trade unionist and also I think the others have fairly well known left wing/socialist views. It would be nice to hear from more trade unionists(Although I know the RMT is a far left socialist union)
 


Can we just give the party back to moderates like this please? Sick of these lefties implying the men, women and children being blown to bits in Yemen are somehow worth more than a bunch of British jobs.
 
This is a man proud of his apple and blackcurrant jam, made from fruit grown on his allotment, a 66-year-old who likes trains – who really likes trains. “At meetings with train operators,” said his friend Emily Thornberry, Labour MP for Islington South, “Jeremy and other train hacks will start getting very over-excited, talking about bogies and God knows what.

“I don’t think he’s a trainspotter. He just knows more about trains than anyone ought to know.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ng-to-wrench-labour-to-the-left-10397997.html
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There was a huge pile-on on Corbyn on here when Traingate broke, studious silence from a dozen or so posters now it's turned out he was in the right.
 
It played its part. Now a considered silence till it disappears of pg 6 and the job's a good un.
 
Scrumpet said:
Suddenly, after 12 months.
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And after some person on the internet did every journalist who ran with the original story for days' job for them.

I'd have thought a billionaire, whose companies have regularly been handed government contracts, lying in an attempt to discredit that government's opposition leader would be a story. But apparently not.

Anyway, back Big Ben.
 
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Dobba said:
And after some person on the internet did every journalist who ran with the original story for days' job for them.

I'd have thought a billionaire, whose companies have regularly been handed government contracts, lying in an attempt to discredit that government's opposition leader would be a story. But apparently not.

Anyway, back Big Ben.
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Has Branson or Virgin made any comment on this yet?
 
Dobba said:
And after some person on the internet did every journalist who ran with the original story for days' job for them.

I'd have thought a billionaire, whose companies have regularly been handed government contracts, lying in an attempt to discredit that government's opposition leader would be a story. But apparently not.

Anyway, back Big Ben.
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Yep, this should be a huge political scandal with heads rolling at media outlets. Alas....
 
It's been a busy week, what will Jess Phillips' article in the Guardian be about? A pressing issue in her consistency? An apology for parroting Virgin's PR campaign and citing it as a reason to not vote for Corbyn in light of this week's new evidence re: traingate? Anger at our continued supply of weapons to Saudi Arabia or even the news that Boris has backed down from his infamous 'go whistle' Brexit divorce bill stance?

If you guessed 'her Nan being a racist Tory', you'd be correct!
 
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To be honest that is an achievement in and of itself. There's so much 'talent' in that category on Twitter.
 
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Gloria will be thankful for losing in the long term. Wouldn't be as much time for her to write articles for The S*n, whilst simultaneously complaining on Twitter about the racist and xenophobic shit that gets printed in it.
 
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