What is preventing Barca from investing heavily ?
Barcelona 2017/18
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Messi's wages.
highest wages in world football, players tend to leave for low fees or even free, huge debt
I believe Ernesto prefers a double pivot CM pairing with then wingers and a number 10 behind the striker.
I could be wrong though.
Personally, I'd use Messi behind Suarez and try to get a right sided attacker.
Those wages from MSN.
Their best bet to re-investment would be to sell either Neymar or Suarez, but that'd be a hard sell to the fans I imagine. Neymar nets you more money, but he's also the better player imo and can still be WC once Messi declines.
Their incoming transfers the past few windows have been shocking. So many towering wages given out too.
So it's funny to see that what made so strong (the front 3) is their biggest problem right now in terms of recruiting and in terms of playing.
Bartomeu says that there is planned 2-3 additional players to the squad before end of August. One has to be a CM and another a young defender (Likely D.Sanchez or Mina).
Edit: Seems Yerry Mina has been signed and will arrive in January from Palmeiras
As someone in another thread mentioned, there will be changes in midfield and so I suspect it's a fluid situation in terms of squad depth/makeup - it's the single most important area of the squad now that RB has been resolved with Semedo. Important to keep in mind that even more than the depth in midfield is the tactics from Lucho that failed to control matches in a manner that Valverde surely will improve upon - so there's quite a bit of potential change ahead
Edit: Seems Yerry Mina has been signed and will arrive in January from Palmeiras
As someone in another thread mentioned, there will be changes in midfield and so I suspect it's a fluid situation in terms of squad depth/makeup - it's the single most important area of the squad now that RB has been resolved with Semedo. Important to keep in mind that even more than the depth in midfield is the tactics from Lucho that failed to control matches in a manner that Valverde surely will improve upon - so there's quite a bit of potential change ahead
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I know precious little about Vitinho apart from him being touted as one of the most skilled players in his age group. He is a player on loan with the B team with an option to buy, aka shady Brasilian deal that our board seems to relish.
Seri is a good player but not sure he'd make the step up.
Messi playes all last season as "number 10". Think his future is there.
His future? He's been playing there since 2009
Their biggest problems last season were Iniesta's fitness, and Andre Gomes(indirectly more than directly)
Their other problem is Messi doesn't run. He never covered that much ground to begin with, but now it's become something of a problem because Iniesta also doesn't quite have the legs anymore, and Neymar and Suarez are sacrificing a lot for Messi, but that also means they waste precious energy
Basically my point is, they desperately need Verratti. Possibly Thiago as well, as in both of them
Either that, or give up their playing philosophy and fill the midfield with muscle. Guys like Kante, Vidal, etc. They'd need good defensive FBs and coaching, too
How much can Suarez fetch for in today's market? If I'm Barca's chairman, I'd probably sell Suarez and get the money to invest heavily in a better midfield so their team won't be so reliant on that front three. Verratti would be perfect for them. They really screwed up big time with Thiago.
Can't see Barca changing their style. They would have to appoint a completely different manager to do it. You know you have to play the "Barca way" to manage them?
He used to, at the beginning of his career there and just before they started shifting in the middle of the attacking trio. For instance in their first treble season, he used to work very hard defensively.
BARCELONA PRE-SEASON FIXTURES
Date Opponent Time (local / BST) Venue
Jul 22 Juventus 18:00 / 23:00 MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ
Jul 26 Manchester United 19:35 / 00:35 FedEx Field, Landover, MD
Jul 29 RM 19:30 / 00:30 Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens, FL
Aug 7 Chapecoense 20:30 / 19:30 Camp Nou, Barcelona
Date Opponent Time (local / BST) Venue
Jul 22 Juventus 18:00 / 23:00 MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ
Jul 26 Manchester United 19:35 / 00:35 FedEx Field, Landover, MD
Jul 29 RM 19:30 / 00:30 Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens, FL
Aug 7 Chapecoense 20:30 / 19:30 Camp Nou, Barcelona
3 point difference last year. Barça got stronger, Real got weaker and plenty of people are thinking Real Madrid will easily win the league. I don't get it.
Real have done better business and they have guaranteed they'll be one of the top clubs in the world for a long time. But when it comes to next season, in my opinion Barça are the favourites.
Real have done better business and they have guaranteed they'll be one of the top clubs in the world for a long time. But when it comes to next season, in my opinion Barça are the favourites.
How did Real get weaker?
They got stronger long term. Short term I think they're weaker or at the very least at the same level.
Pepe is better than Vallejo, James is better than Ceballos, Llorente was added to the squad but Kovacic did great rotating with Casemiro last season so I don't think he'll make a lot of difference, Theo doesn't spend all season injured so he's better than Coentrão and now their second highest goalscorer just left. I think overall they're weaker.
Lost Morata and James. Morata scored a lot of goals for them. Sure, not starters but good players who added value.
That said some of their youngsters like Asensio will go from strength to strength.
They're about to pay the ultimate price for their (imo) stupid wage policy.
3 players can't earn a third of the wage bill. It's not sustainable.
Now they're about to lose the one with the longest shelf life.
Their board has to go.
3 players can't earn a third of the wage bill. It's not sustainable.
Now they're about to lose the one with the longest shelf life.
Their board has to go.
Agree with this. As sacrilegious as it sounds, I would have cashed in on Messi. Could've gotten 150M for a 31 year old, and freed up a massive part of the wage bill to rebuild for the future.
And with the freed up wages they can use it buy players who are not as good as Messi.
Well no one is ever going to be as good as Messi.
I never understand why some people find the need to falsify someone's age. Does adding his age 1 year old make your post look more compelling or do you get a kick out of it? No you just look like a fool.
Which is why there is no point of getting rid of them. Neymar, Messi and Suarez eating up the wage bill is not ideal but, that is not the biggest issue. They did not need to buy players like Gomes, Vidal, Mathieu, etc and give them huge contracts. They could have signed better players for similar wages and fees.
Christ. What a baby. I just thought he was 31. No conspiracy to falsify his age. That goes far beyond the remit of how much I actually care.Barca can't afford to lose Neymar. They would have no one to replace him with.
If they sell Neymar, as huge of a loss as it is, it would give them a huge chance to reinvest properly. They need 2 new midfielders ahead of Busquets and would obviously need a winger to replace Neymar. They've obviously been linked with Coutinho and Verratti but they would be perfect for their midfield, verratti replacing what Xavi was and Coutinho trying to replace what Iniesta was. Obviously neither are anywhere near as good, but both are excellent players and great technically so it could go a long way to fixing their midfield. Could probably get both of them for the cost of Verratti.
Replacing Neymar up top though... can see them trying to get Dybala/Dembele or someone like that. Not sure if they'd actually manage it though. Probably not this summer. They'll need to reinvest basically the entire Neymar sale plus more if they really want to get back to their best though. They can't rely on Messi and Suarez to do everything when their midfield is so often non-existent.
Replacing Neymar up top though... can see them trying to get Dybala/Dembele or someone like that. Not sure if they'd actually manage it though. Probably not this summer. They'll need to reinvest basically the entire Neymar sale plus more if they really want to get back to their best though. They can't rely on Messi and Suarez to do everything when their midfield is so often non-existent.
And who could they buy? Can't see many big players moving, apart from some from Monaco.
WTF is happening at Barca.
where tf is the neymar thread in the mains?
Ceballos is supposed to be very talented isn't he? The tables seem to have turned between Barca and Madrid when it comes to transfers.
What? La Masia is their core!
I actually read that the 'youth player' in question is 27!
Even so, no matter who it is, no one should be told via twitter that they're no longer needed. It's bizarre!
Yeah, crazy feckers! Barcellona seem to have lost the plot recently. The club have no direction.I actually read that the 'youth player' in question is 27!
Even so, no matter who it is, no one should be told via twitter that they're no longer needed. It's bizarre!
It's so weird isn't it? Surely they can't keep going like that with the present management?
The whole club are disinterested. They are relying on the MSN and the past success.
Reckon they'll waste the money they get for Neymar if he goes to PSG.
Barca is just really bad in the transfermarkt. Digne, alcacer, Arda, Vidal, gomes, vermaelen & co are all complete flops, while useful youth players who could have done better were sold for a penny. Only Neymar, Suarez and mats are unambiguous successes.
No club can waste so much money without losing quality.
No club can waste so much money without losing quality.
50 mil each on 4 overrated portoguese players
