Oh interesting, didn't know that.
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Oh interesting, didn't know that.
Son scored 21 last season, so a little more than just chipping in.
It makes sense why Spurs isn't looking for to spend too much money on players this summer. The market today's are huge and their XI are already very good enough to even challenge the league. What they need to fix right now is their mentality and need to stop bottling their chances to win trophy and also backup for Alli (Barkley) & better backup for Kane.
Lloris/Vorm
Rose/Davies
Vertonghen & Alderweireld / Davison Sanchez, Wimmer(potentially to be sold), Carter Vickers
Trippier/KWP
Dier Dembele / Wanyama
Eriksen Son / Sissoko, Lamela, Nkodou
Alli
Kane / Janssen
Lloris/Vorm
Rose/Davies
Vertonghen & Alderweireld / Davison Sanchez, Wimmer(potentially to be sold), Carter Vickers
Trippier/KWP
Dier Dembele / Wanyama
Eriksen Son / Sissoko, Lamela, Nkodou
Alli
Kane / Janssen
Looks like Juan Foyth, a young Argentinian CB from Estudiantes is all done and will be announced soon.
With Wimmer likely to be sold, that will leave us with 5 CBs to cover 3 positions in our favoured back 3 formation.
With Wimmer likely to be sold, that will leave us with 5 CBs to cover 3 positions in our favoured back 3 formation.
Apart from LB, Spurs first 11 are all 6ft or more. Barely made the news for height like Jose's team did.
Nice farewell letter from Ajax fan on Davinson Sanchez:
(Knicked from spurs fan on Rawk)
My heart hurts.
To paraphrase Selena Gomez, “I love you like a love song, Davy.” It was only a year, but what a special year it was. Your stunning athleticism, remarkable pace, enchanting dance moves, commanding presence and thumping headers make it hard to say goodbye. Red and white suited you, #5. You solidified our defence, formed a mouth-watering partnership with Matthijs de Ligt, brought us to a European final, won over my heart with your captivating smile and, most importantly, gave me reason to believe – to believe in the future, believe in loyalty, and believe world class defending is not a thing of the past. You reinvigorated my passion, and now you are leaving.
But you must know, I am not blaming you. This is not your fault. Champions League football has eluded us once again, and Marc Overmars has shown no ambition to take us to the next level – he’s never received a transfer offer he didn’t like. Next time you come to the ArenA, you will find your locker cleaned out and nametag replaced. You are nothing but a memory, but I will never forget you – never forget our year together. I will always remember the good times, and there were a lot of them. This is a letter I hoped I would never have to write.
You came, you danced, and now you have to leave. You brought great pride to Amsterdam, but I am forced to say goodbye. I wish there was another way. Bedankt. Tot ziens. Veel succes.
Davinson Sanchez arrived in Amsterdam for five-million Euros last summer, shortly before winning the Copa Libertadores with Colombian outfit Atletico Nacional – just the second in club history – and now he departs for around eight times the fee paid by Overmars. There’s no denying it’s a terrific return on their investment. A sale in the region of 45-million Euros (including add-ons) is an Ajax and Eredivisie record, surpassing the 34 million Manchester United spent to buy Memphis Depay. It’s a higher fee than was paid for the likes of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Wesley Sneijder, Klaas-jan Huntelaar, Luis Suarez, Arjen Robben, Dirk Kuyt, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Christian Eriksen and so many others. So why do Ajax supporters feel their club has been swindled? Watch him play and the answer will be obvious. They unearthed a star.
A physical specimen, he is virtually unbeatable in the air, as evidenced by the six goals he scored in his first – and only – Eredivisie season, tied for the league lead amongst defenders with PSV’s Hector Moreno, bought by Roma earlier this summer. Sanchez started 32 of 34 Eredivisie matches last term, missing only their first game due to the timing of his arrival, and their penultimate league clash as he was rested for a midweek European tie. Speaking of the Europa League, he played a crucial role in guiding Ajax to their first European final since 1996, playing every minute of the knockout stage (minus one match missed due to suspension), helping them to three clean sheets.
Sanchez completed just under 90 per cent of his passes last season (88.9), the third-best mark in the Eredivisie, and his average of 70.9 completed passes per match is better than that of any Tottenham centre-half last season – and it’s not just the competition he was up against. In the Europa League, many of Sanchez’s numbers saw drastic increases. His total tackles per match almost doubled, and his average completed dribbles, interceptions and key passes were higher.
Of course, numbers do not tell the whole story, of course. The Colombian centre-half is a stalwart in defence. Built like a mountain, Sanchez has every tool to become a world class defender. Those who have watched him over the course of the last year might argue he’s already flirting with the label. At the ripe age of 21, he plays well beyond his years. Aggressive in his approach, Sanchez mimics a concrete wall in the centre of defence and has become famous for the impeccable timing of his last-ditch challenges.
He is a ferocious footballer, blending a unique combination of power and grace. He makes a hobby of bullying opposing attackers and possesses impressive skill on the ball, a claim which can only be made by a small percentage of centre-backs in the game today. Comfortable as the last line of defence, Sanchez has also been known to embark on mesmerising runs into attack, reminiscent of Italian legend Alessandro Nesta on occasion, and has the athletic ability to recover his position. His darting forays through midfield help to alleviate congestion, drive play forward and disrupt the opposition’s shape.
A former defensive midfielder, Sanchez is incredibly comfortable in his distribution. Be it deep in his own end or up inside the halfway line, he thrives in picking out a pass, and has shown an innate ability to kick-start quick attacks with precise balls over the top.
Sanchez is a five-tool defender who is well on his way to becoming one of the best at his position: physicality, tackling, aerial ability, reading of the game and ball skills. High, but deserved, praise for the 21-year-old who, in his first taste of European football in 2016/17, guided Ajax to the Europa League final en route to winning the Rinus Michels award as their player of the season – just the second to win the award in their first season with the club, along with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar in 2006.
At White Hart Lane, Sanchez should slot right into the centre of defence. He has limited versatility, and while Mauricio Pochettino could experiment with him at right-back, it would not be in anyone’s best interests to remove him from the role he has exceedingly flourished in.
The best option, however, would be to adopt the 3-4-2-1 that Pochettino dabbled in last season. In their 10 matches with a three-man back line, Spurs went unbeaten, winning eight. That would ensure Sanchez, Vertonghen and Alderweireld remain in their natural position – a formidable back line that could arguably be considered one of the best in Europe. Whatever Tottenham’s plans for him are, Sanchez will play first-team minutes at the Lane, and it could be just a matter of a year or two until Barcelona swoop in to steal him away. The Blaugrana have been tracking him for a couple of years now, and tried hard to lure him over to Camp Nou in summer 2016, but lost out as Sanchez wanted to be a regular starter. You can see why. One year later and the Colombian has earned himself a major payday.
Danny Rose, if you have to Google him, you don’t watch enough football.
(Knicked from spurs fan on Rawk)
My heart hurts.
To paraphrase Selena Gomez, “I love you like a love song, Davy.” It was only a year, but what a special year it was. Your stunning athleticism, remarkable pace, enchanting dance moves, commanding presence and thumping headers make it hard to say goodbye. Red and white suited you, #5. You solidified our defence, formed a mouth-watering partnership with Matthijs de Ligt, brought us to a European final, won over my heart with your captivating smile and, most importantly, gave me reason to believe – to believe in the future, believe in loyalty, and believe world class defending is not a thing of the past. You reinvigorated my passion, and now you are leaving.
But you must know, I am not blaming you. This is not your fault. Champions League football has eluded us once again, and Marc Overmars has shown no ambition to take us to the next level – he’s never received a transfer offer he didn’t like. Next time you come to the ArenA, you will find your locker cleaned out and nametag replaced. You are nothing but a memory, but I will never forget you – never forget our year together. I will always remember the good times, and there were a lot of them. This is a letter I hoped I would never have to write.
You came, you danced, and now you have to leave. You brought great pride to Amsterdam, but I am forced to say goodbye. I wish there was another way. Bedankt. Tot ziens. Veel succes.
Davinson Sanchez arrived in Amsterdam for five-million Euros last summer, shortly before winning the Copa Libertadores with Colombian outfit Atletico Nacional – just the second in club history – and now he departs for around eight times the fee paid by Overmars. There’s no denying it’s a terrific return on their investment. A sale in the region of 45-million Euros (including add-ons) is an Ajax and Eredivisie record, surpassing the 34 million Manchester United spent to buy Memphis Depay. It’s a higher fee than was paid for the likes of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Wesley Sneijder, Klaas-jan Huntelaar, Luis Suarez, Arjen Robben, Dirk Kuyt, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Christian Eriksen and so many others. So why do Ajax supporters feel their club has been swindled? Watch him play and the answer will be obvious. They unearthed a star.
A physical specimen, he is virtually unbeatable in the air, as evidenced by the six goals he scored in his first – and only – Eredivisie season, tied for the league lead amongst defenders with PSV’s Hector Moreno, bought by Roma earlier this summer. Sanchez started 32 of 34 Eredivisie matches last term, missing only their first game due to the timing of his arrival, and their penultimate league clash as he was rested for a midweek European tie. Speaking of the Europa League, he played a crucial role in guiding Ajax to their first European final since 1996, playing every minute of the knockout stage (minus one match missed due to suspension), helping them to three clean sheets.
Sanchez completed just under 90 per cent of his passes last season (88.9), the third-best mark in the Eredivisie, and his average of 70.9 completed passes per match is better than that of any Tottenham centre-half last season – and it’s not just the competition he was up against. In the Europa League, many of Sanchez’s numbers saw drastic increases. His total tackles per match almost doubled, and his average completed dribbles, interceptions and key passes were higher.
Of course, numbers do not tell the whole story, of course. The Colombian centre-half is a stalwart in defence. Built like a mountain, Sanchez has every tool to become a world class defender. Those who have watched him over the course of the last year might argue he’s already flirting with the label. At the ripe age of 21, he plays well beyond his years. Aggressive in his approach, Sanchez mimics a concrete wall in the centre of defence and has become famous for the impeccable timing of his last-ditch challenges.
He is a ferocious footballer, blending a unique combination of power and grace. He makes a hobby of bullying opposing attackers and possesses impressive skill on the ball, a claim which can only be made by a small percentage of centre-backs in the game today. Comfortable as the last line of defence, Sanchez has also been known to embark on mesmerising runs into attack, reminiscent of Italian legend Alessandro Nesta on occasion, and has the athletic ability to recover his position. His darting forays through midfield help to alleviate congestion, drive play forward and disrupt the opposition’s shape.
A former defensive midfielder, Sanchez is incredibly comfortable in his distribution. Be it deep in his own end or up inside the halfway line, he thrives in picking out a pass, and has shown an innate ability to kick-start quick attacks with precise balls over the top.
Sanchez is a five-tool defender who is well on his way to becoming one of the best at his position: physicality, tackling, aerial ability, reading of the game and ball skills. High, but deserved, praise for the 21-year-old who, in his first taste of European football in 2016/17, guided Ajax to the Europa League final en route to winning the Rinus Michels award as their player of the season – just the second to win the award in their first season with the club, along with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar in 2006.
At White Hart Lane, Sanchez should slot right into the centre of defence. He has limited versatility, and while Mauricio Pochettino could experiment with him at right-back, it would not be in anyone’s best interests to remove him from the role he has exceedingly flourished in.
The best option, however, would be to adopt the 3-4-2-1 that Pochettino dabbled in last season. In their 10 matches with a three-man back line, Spurs went unbeaten, winning eight. That would ensure Sanchez, Vertonghen and Alderweireld remain in their natural position – a formidable back line that could arguably be considered one of the best in Europe. Whatever Tottenham’s plans for him are, Sanchez will play first-team minutes at the Lane, and it could be just a matter of a year or two until Barcelona swoop in to steal him away. The Blaugrana have been tracking him for a couple of years now, and tried hard to lure him over to Camp Nou in summer 2016, but lost out as Sanchez wanted to be a regular starter. You can see why. One year later and the Colombian has earned himself a major payday.
Danny Rose, if you have to Google him, you don’t watch enough football.
Levy spending that Walker money wisely.
Meanwhile Danny Rose, along with the rest of us, is googling this guy as we speak. The following information was uncovered after opening his wiki page.
Juan Foyth
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We need proof that this guy is even a genuine human being, let alone a professional footballer capable of performing to an acceptable standard in the premier league. Can you provide such evidence?
Eriksen and Walker/Trippier aside, yeah. They have lots of very tall players but no real giants like Matic and Pogba.
Eriksen is 6 feet as per google. Yeah there isn't anyone who is as tall as Matic but almost everyone is 6.2. Good team, they mix technical side with physical side so well
Levy spending that Walker money wisely.
Meanwhile Danny Rose, along with the rest of us, is googling this guy as we speak. The following information was uncovered after opening his wiki page.
Juan Foyth
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We need proof that this guy is even a genuine human being, let alone a professional footballer capable of performing to an acceptable standard in the premier league. Can you provide such evidence?
Ask Pochettino. He's Argentinian. Foyth is Argentinian. So I imagine - just a wild guess - that the former knows what he's doing.
You imply that money being is being spent on Foyth unwisely, yet you know nothing about him and don't know the fee
Brilliant.As for Google, many would have needed it for Rose when he signed for Spurs for £1m. So by all means continue to sneer ... it doesn't reflect well on you.
Ask Pochettino. He's Argentinian. Foyth is Argentinian. So I imagine - just a wild guess - that the former knows what he's doing.
You imply that money being is being spent on Foyth unwisely, yet you know nothing about him and don't know the fee
As for Google, many would have needed it for Rose when he signed for Spurs for £1m. So by all means continue to sneer ... it doesn't reflect well on you.
Why do you have to take everything so seriously and to heart, like it's some personal battle that you're in. Clearly I was joking.
Irony is totally lost on you unfortunately.
That wiki page is genuine by the way
Why do you have to take everything so seriously and to heart, like it's some personal battle that you're in. Clearly I was joking.
Irony is totally lost on you unfortunately.
That wiki page is genuine by the way
Except for the part you left out: "Juan Marcos Foyth (born 12 January 1998) is an Argentine professional footballer player who plays as defender for Argentine club Estudiantes."
The Wiki page for Random Task says: Some one who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "irony", but thinks they do. ... that wiki page is not genuine by the way
Ask Pochettino. He's Argentinian. Foyth is Argentinian. So I imagine - just a wild guess - that the former knows what he's doing.
You imply that money being is being spent on Foyth unwisely, yet you know nothing about him and don't know the fee
As for Google, many would have needed it for Rose when he signed for Spurs for £1m. So by all means continue to sneer ... it doesn't reflect well on you.
This is his main image when I type his name into google:
Will Wembley be their downfall this season?
Except for the part you left out: "Juan Marcos Foyth (born 12 January 1998) is an Argentine professional footballer player who plays as defender for Argentine club Estudiantes."
The Wiki page for Random Task says: Some one who doesn't understand the meaning of the word "irony", but thinks they do. ... that wiki page is not genuine by the way
Socratic irony. Perhaps I should have been more specific considering the recipient of the message.
I don't say that it's not important to win the League Cup or the FA Cup or the Europa League,' he said. 'But for me, we need to put Tottenham every season with the possibility to win the Premier League and to win the Champions League, the two most important trophies.
'If one day, I am not capable to win the Premier League here with Tottenham, or we don't have the chance to win the Premier League, I think it will be very disappointing. I want to win the Premier League. I want to win the Champions League.
'You can win the FA Cup because of the draw, or the League Cup because of the draw, or the Europa League because the big clubs are more focused on the other competitions. For me, to win a trophy means to win the Premier League or the Champions League.'
I really do love our manager - he is setting the targets for the club very high and proves that we do have ambition to achieve really great things. Whether we get there or not remains to be seen but it does frustrate me sometimes when fans of other clubs state that Spurs show no ambition or are happy to aim for top 4 every year. In the past that may well have been true but now we are aiming for titles and we should not be happy with anything less. It is getting into this mind frame that marks the top clubs from the others.
'If one day, I am not capable to win the Premier League here with Tottenham, or we don't have the chance to win the Premier League, I think it will be very disappointing. I want to win the Premier League. I want to win the Champions League.
'You can win the FA Cup because of the draw, or the League Cup because of the draw, or the Europa League because the big clubs are more focused on the other competitions. For me, to win a trophy means to win the Premier League or the Champions League.'
I really do love our manager - he is setting the targets for the club very high and proves that we do have ambition to achieve really great things. Whether we get there or not remains to be seen but it does frustrate me sometimes when fans of other clubs state that Spurs show no ambition or are happy to aim for top 4 every year. In the past that may well have been true but now we are aiming for titles and we should not be happy with anything less. It is getting into this mind frame that marks the top clubs from the others.
I dont know, I think a club who nearly never wins anything shouldnt dismiss any trophy as 'unimportant'.
It's about showing ambition though and it starts with the manager. It wasn't long ago we had Harry Redknapp telling Spurs fans that we 'didn't realise how good we had got it' by managing to get into the top 4. Screw that, we want to be a big club and we want to win titles. No shame in saying it as long as we can continue to improve and work towards that target.
'Showing ambition' means nothing. Winning smaller trophies creates a more pressure-resistant winning mentality and it gives a sniff of what it feels like to win stuff.
Winning is a habit, in both sport and life. Winning small cups is important as you gear up for the big ones imo.
As a fan, I can completely understand what you're saying but I just find it weird that the manager of a club with your trophy cabinet is basically saying that you dont care about winning anything but the PL or the CL. I'd like to think that he should focus on building a squad that can compete for atleast one or two of the minor trophies whilst still being competetive in the competitions he'd rather win.
So you've not won a 'trophy' for 56 years now then, that's good to know.
I would try to walk before running Poch.
I don't think he is saying that he doesn't care if we win a trophy - as a fan I would love us to win absolutely everything we could - he is just setting out what his main goal is as Spurs manager and for him that is to win a title.
Sounds like talk for talk sake given he's regularly cast off the CL with a weakened team, no?
The squad hasn't changed this year, so how can the CL and League be so attainable that the cups cease to matter.
In reality he's gearing up to field weakened teams in the cups because he doesn't have the squad to compete across all frones - which is grand, prioritise the bigger comps but don't write it up as if cup competitions are beneath a Spurs team that have won nothing.
Seems to me he's just creating a narrative that shows him in a better light. Instead of 4th most successful manager last season behind Conte, Mourinho & Wenger, he was second most successful behind Conte.
I don't think it's anything to do with setting his sights high - let's be honest the chances of Spurs winning the PL or CL is slim. It's more about trying to ease the pressure on himself regarding winning a trophy that he's expected to be winning (Europa Leage, FA Cup, League Cup)
Poch himself hasn't won any silverware as a manager so the idea that the domestic cups are somehow beneath him and Spurs is rich.
Why are the chances slim exactly? You seem to have twisted everything he's saying, he's saying that the league and the CL are the biggest trophies and he wants to win them. What's he supposed to say FFS "yeah we're not good enough for the the league or the CL, we're gonna aim for the League Cup this season". Honestly some people will find a way to have a dig whenever they can.
You also have to remember English isn't his first language and it's easy to interpret how he should saying something not as it was intended.
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Agreed. I doubt Spurs fans will be looking back in 10 years thinking what a great season 16/17 was when we finished only 7 points behind the winners. If Spurs had the season United just had though for example they'd be looking back in 25 years with great memories.
For somebody who hasn't one a single trophy, he's awfully dismissive of them. He can belittle those trophies all he likes, but to show ambition you need to actually win things, not SAY you wanna win things.
Anyone can do that. Silly comments from poch.
Anyone can do that. Silly comments from poch.
As a Spurs fan I'd want him to be saying that last season was ultimately a failure because a managers job is to win trophies and he and the players did not achieve that. Adding that his ultimate goal this season is to rectify that and give the fans something they've not had for a decade.
The chances are slim in my view because Spurs haven't won a league title in over 55 years, have never won the top level European trophy, don't have the team to win either or the finances available to build a team capable.
To say to him the FA Cup, League Cup & Europa League aren't trophies is totally disingenuous. It's like the socially awkward basement dweller proclaiming that he doesn't have an interest in getting a girlfriend solely because Scarlett Johansson and Emily Ratajkowski are taken and no-one else is worth his time.
Silly comments from Poch and a few silly ones from Spurs fans making out he's a genius for saying them.
Danny Rose wants to win trophies. Every player does. The club hasn't win anything in 50 odd years so I would suggest he looks to address that before spouting off about the biggest prizes all things considered.
Danny Rose wants to win trophies. Every player does. The club hasn't win anything in 50 odd years so I would suggest he looks to address that before spouting off about the biggest prizes all things considered.
That's not what Pochettino said. He actually said: "I don't say that it's not important to win the League Cup or the FA Cup or the Europa League ...."
He simply said that the league title or CL are more important trophies, which is perfectly true. So I've no idea what you're complaining about.
Who said he was a genius for saying them?
No matter what he says people would pick holes in it. Let's say he wins the Carling Cup people will be like so what(Crikes I'm a United fan and I just had to look up who won it last year, can't believe I forgot that) WiNs the FA Cup people will be like so what. Let's be honest there are two trophies that count and the other ones are bonus trophies. No one is going to take him or Spurs seriously until they win the league.
The Caf sure loves reminding people that Utd won the Community Shield, League Cup and Europa League though.
There's a lot more baffling comments from the full interview.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...e-titles-as-he-plots-new-era-of-a7902426.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...e-titles-as-he-plots-new-era-of-a7902426.html
No, someone needs to explain that to him, he's wont feck all.
So basically letting the Spurs fans know he will be weakening his side again for the domestic trophies. Also a bit rich coming from him as he weakened his teams for the CL games last year, this year the squad is no stronger so...
People are reading far to much into what he's saying, he saying he wants to win major silverware, the rest of what he says is filler, that's basically all there is to see here.
It's just totally unnecessary though given the circumstances.
Just say I'm here to win trophies.
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