Neymar Jr | PSG | 2017/2018 performances

Love the psg fans shouting the goalscorers at sync. What's up with fans in England? Such dull atmospheres compared to league in France, Germany, Italy & Spain
 
I was never keen on him going to PSG or what their owners are doing to football, but they are a fun team to watch. Yes it's one sided, but PSG in that first half were incredible with pace, intensity and all out attack - it was a great watch and Neymar is now thriving as the main man. Defensively is going to be their undoing in the Champions League again. But they are undoubtedly going to be entertaining.

I personally find La Liga a bit slow and boring most of the time. Even Madrid once they've built a couple goal stop playing. Barca well we know that's their game pass and pass and pass until they bore defences to sleep. The games with the rest of teams are usually low scoring shit fests.

Technically La Liga is miles ahead of the EPL, but I much prefer our league - as do most fans from around the world.
 
Had them to win to nil on my bet. Didn't quite work out
 
Love the psg fans shouting the goalscorers at sync. What's up with fans in England? Such dull atmospheres compared to league in France, Germany, Italy & Spain

Having been to games in 4 different countries, I can tell you that the atmosphere in English grounds is superb by comparison. You can accuse English football of many things, but not lacking atmosphere. A point many overseas players make. Most supportive crowds I've witnessed too (Arsenal aside).
 
Having been to games in 4 different countries, I can tell you that the atmosphere in English grounds is superb by comparison. You can accuse English football of many things, but not lacking atmosphere. A point many overseas players make. Most supportive crowds I've witnessed too (Arsenal aside).

Is that as a neutral fan? I have always been jealous of dortmund (mostly down to the stadium) & after hearing the loud camp style shouting at psg - I got a bit jealous really. Athleti0 & juventus isn't bad either; shouting flags, horns etc.

There is just this level of neutral respect that is a positive aswell as a slight annoyance in the PL I feel
 
A farmer's league that had one of its team going further than any English team I've seen last season. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. When I hear people still say things like that, I kind of dismiss whatever else you have to say at that point because you're clearly ignorant and not worth listening to. Also, reek of bitterness that you couldn't get him to play on your team/league.

Although Farmers league is a step over, I do agree it is a weak league compared to other major leagues. I do find it more entertaining than the German league though.

The thing with mentioning the champions league is that we can't compare what English teams do compared to others. English teams do not get the luxury that Madrid, Barca, Munich, PSG & Juve get in that you can't rest players either side of a champs league game because the 3 points are so vital and every team can give a solid game. There is simply too much competition in the UK now that unless the FA look into adjusting fixtures English teams will continue to struggle.

The fact Neymar played on 2nd gear and comes away with 2 goals and an assist (and a penalty won) it will be too easy for him and will actually back fire in his quest for the ballon d'or.
 
Ligue 1 isn't better than Serie A, just see the 3rd in Serie A vs the 3rd in Ligue 1 a few days ago.
Don't forget that Bordeaux, 6th in Ligue 1, was eliminated from Videoton a couple of weeks ago

And don't forget that lyon won against As Roma last year in Europa league. We can go on like that all night. Serie A is a good league but the new italian generation is a disaster, all they have for the next years are Verratti and Donnaruma, all the other so called big prospects are nowhere today. Every year all the top clubs buy a French prospect (umtiti, tolisso, mendy, dembélé etc... the list is just too long if we compare with italian youngsters. So today we know that some of them are playing in the French league and will be very hyped in the next summer. That's why I say that Serie A is no longer better.
 
And don't forget that lyon won against As Roma last year in Europa league. We can go on like that all night. Serie A is a good league but the new italian generation is a disaster, all they have for the next years are Verratti and Donnaruma, all the other so called big prospects are nowhere today. Every year all the top clubs buy a French prospect (umtiti, tolisso, mendy, dembélé etc... the list is just too long if we compare with italian youngsters. So today we know that some of them are playing in the French league and will be very hyped in the next summer. That's why I say that Serie A is no longer better.

Yep, the only win in the last 5 years.
20 matches played, 13/14 wins for italian clubs, only 1 for french teams if I'm not wrong.

EPL teams buy in Ligue 1 because it's easier..
Without mentioning Juventus players: Hamsik, Nainggolan, Insigne, Mertens, Donnarumma, Icardi, Perisic, Bonucci, Miranda, Koulibaly, Manolas Belotti, Felipe Anderson etc. could easily play in a EPL top6.
 
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Is that as a neutral fan? I have always been jealous of dortmund (mostly down to the stadium) & after hearing the loud camp style shouting at psg - I got a bit jealous really. Athleti0 & juventus isn't bad either; shouting flags, horns etc.

There is just this level of neutral respect that is a positive aswell as a slight annoyance in the PL I feel

Mostly as a partial neutral, except at Old Trafford. Never been to Dortmund but I've been told by friends that it's incredible. Most of the games I've been to have been in England and Spain, across various grounds. But I've been to a couple in France, one in Brasil, a few in the US (lol), a World Cup, the euros, and the copa America.

Honestly, the experience is fairly consistent. It's just the nature of the crowds that differs. Spanish grounds are less intense, and they quickly turn on their team if they aren't doing well. I never really liked that.
 
After Barcelona, Real Madrid and Atletico there is a big drop in quality. The drop isn't as noticeable in Ligue 1 from PSG, Monaco and Nice. La Liga is better but its not on a different level.

By the way,Verrati, Motta and Rabiot is definitely comparable to Bosquets, Iniesta, and Rakitic.

I don't agree on the player comparisons. Rabiot is decent (as I said I like him and Veratti and have enjoyed watching both) but Rabiott's passing is not good enough to be competing for the champions league. He is too slow on the ball and fails to pick out passes quick enough to break down the better teams. Veratti is good but he is not better than either Busquets or Iniesta. Busquets is up there with the best holding mids at the minute and Iniesta, even as he is ageing can find space and pick out killer passes.

Of course this is the Neymar thread and he was on another level today but he didn't step out of 2nd gear and that is where the issue is.
 
Mostly as a partial neutral, except at Old Trafford. Never been to Dortmund but I've been told by friends that it's incredible. Most of the games I've been to have been in England and Spain, across various grounds. But I've been to a couple in France, one in Brasil, a few in the US (lol), a World Cup, the euros, and the copa America.

Honestly, the experience is fairly consistent. It's just the nature of the crowds that differs. Spanish grounds are less intense, and they quickly turn on their team if they aren't doing well. I never really liked that.

Very good point that I had forgotten about. Not good at all
 
Honestly, the experience is fairly consistent. It's just the nature of the crowds that differs. Spanish grounds are less intense, and they quickly turn on their team if they aren't doing well. I never really liked that.
Depends on the stadium and the game. English and German stadiums have great atmospheres every game, not much difference between big games and games against pub teams. Spain and Italy can go from libraries against pub teams or fairly meaningless/"unattractive" games, to circles of hell from the inferno in the biggest games
 
Rabiot is decent (as I said I like him and Veratti and have enjoyed watching both) but Rabiott's passing is not good enough to be competing for the champions league. He is too slow on the ball and fails to pick out passes quick enough to break down the better teams. Veratti is good but he is not better than either Busquets or Iniesta. Busquets is up there with the best holding mids at the minute..

Rabiot seems like our Big Fei minus the elbow but with higher IQ and technical skills.

Busquet out of Barca system or Spain NT system was average player. His style is almost similar with Fletcher, but the later offers more.

Iniesta has age with him, can not be the main player every week, needs a complimentary MF, Veratti will do.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Not many will agree, but I think Neymar has been better than Messi last couple of years. Even the year where Barca won the treble, I thought Neymar had a better year and his contributions in the CL that year were bigger than Messi.
 
True but there's a misconception on the caf the rest of la liga is crap compared to the awesomeness of the PL. The general strength of the league is stronger than most.

It's still crap though, especially for the big two. Even the likes of Sevilla are usually beaten 99/100 times before the game has even started against Barça or Real.
 
Just perfect:

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I have to say I am extremely jealous that PSG got him. I wish it was us.
In our current setup + Neymar, I think we'd walk the league with champagne football.
 
People need to stop acting like there is a league where it is Titan versus Titan every match. There is cannon fodder in every league. Only in leagues like the ones in the US and Sweden is their a good deal of balance but, their the balance is because everyone is just as mediocre as one another.
 
People need to stop acting like there is a league where it is Titan versus Titan every match. There is cannon fodder in every league. Only in leagues like the ones in the US and Sweden is their a good deal of balance but, their the balance is because everyone is just as mediocre as one another.

True.

Nothing compares to the myth of the Premier League being this super league. It's brilliantly marketed tbh.
 
Not many will agree, but I think Neymar has been better than Messi last couple of years. Even the year where Barca won the treble, I thought Neymar had a better year and his contributions in the CL that year were bigger than Messi.
No. No no no no. NO. He was more consistent than Messi last season, and briefly played at a level close to Messi's in the fall of 2015(when Messi was injured), but no.

On a different note, whoscored will have to change their algorithm if neymar keeps this up :lol:


PS what are the chances the money for the release clause came from ACS instead of Qatar? :wenger::nervous::D:mad::devil:
 
Not many will agree, but I think Neymar has been better than Messi last couple of years. Even the year where Barca won the treble, I thought Neymar had a better year and his contributions in the CL that year were bigger than Messi.

There's nothing to agree or debate, Messi was better, he destroyed Bayern in 3 minutes, scored a wonder goal vs Athletic in the Copa final, scored 19 more goals and gave 20 assists more.

If you see a different thing you have a bias problem, simple as that.
 
There's nothing to agree or debate, Messi was better, he destroyed Bayern in 3 minutes, scored a wonder goal vs Athletic in the Copa final, scored 19 more goals and gave 20 assists more.

If you see a different thing you have a bias problem, simple as that.

Not sure how I have a bias problem when im not bothered either way.
The only one who would have a bias issue is you since youre a Barca fan and one player left and the other stayed.

Just checked and in your run, Neymar scored twice against Bayern in the away leg, (as well as one in injury time in the Messi 3 minute match you mentioned), he scored in the final too to kill the game (again injury time), as well as 3 of the 5 goals against PSG in the quarters. Neymars contributions look to be better than Messi in the knockouts.
 
People need to stop acting like there is a league where it is Titan versus Titan every match. There is cannon fodder in every league. Only in leagues like the ones in the US and Sweden is their a good deal of balance but, their the balance is because everyone is just as mediocre as one another.
Oi, MLS is fecking quality and I won't hear anything to the contrary :nono::lol:
 
Depends on the stadium and the game. English and German stadiums have great atmospheres every game, not much difference between big games and games against pub teams. Spain and Italy can go from libraries against pub teams or fairly meaningless/"unattractive" games, to circles of hell from the inferno in the biggest games

Fair play to that comment. Is true. I was a regular at La Mestalla from 2001 to 2004. 80% half empty. 10% feisty. 10% incredible. And that was when Valencia fue de puta madre.
 
Not take away from Neymar, obviously brilliant player, but the defending in Ligue 1 is atrocious.
 
:eek: at the amount of people tune in for PSG game now. I only watched Ligue 1 higher profile game, beside when there was nothing to watch ( first week when PL didn't).

Pretty much give more evidence that Neymar can pull in some curious eyes in the discussion whether Neymar brand would help increase PSG commercial profile, revenue.

Going by highlight, Neymar seems like not breaking a sweat.
 
Just checked and in your run, Neymar scored twice against Bayern in the away leg, (as well as one in injury time in the Messi 3 minute match you mentioned)
The home leg ended 3:0 and Messi scored the first two goals, which individual efforts
 
He's the best player in the world.... the effort he puts in, the insane skill at times amounts to things happening, the intelligence of his runs, etc.


@3:40 That ball control for this goal was... sublime

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Reminded me of Zidane tbh

He would take the EPL by storm too.

And by best player in the world I mean best attacking midfielder obviously.

At PSG inspiring his teamates to score not just normal goals but world class goals... aswell.
 
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He will be a sensation in the UCL this season.

PSG are possibly the only side that could beat Madrid, maybe Bayern too.

Problem with PSG is that they are mentally fragile, while this Madrid side are made of stern stuff and never know when they are beaten.
 
Can Neymar match or even beat Ronaldo and Messi's goal tally this season? They both will score close to 40 goals. If he keeps up his current form, I can see him doing that easily.
 
It's atrocious everywhere.


Well people keep looking at Messi. IMO Neymar is better... at least now. Ball control is syblime at times. He would demolish the EPL too. He's better than Luís Figo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho.

If he were to go to Man City, for example, he would bring that effect that Cristiano Ronaldo brought to Man United.

Edit: One of the goals he scores... the way he somehow gets past two defenders.... the ball control.... he's twisting fast & the ball control was pure art. He's clearly the best attacking midflieder in the world at the moment. He got better.
 
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Not sure how I have a bias problem when im not bothered either way.
The only one who would have a bias issue is you since youre a Barca fan and one player left and the other stayed.

Just checked and in your run, Neymar scored twice against Bayern in the away leg, (as well as one in injury time in the Messi 3 minute match you mentioned), he scored in the final too to kill the game (again injury time), as well as 3 of the 5 goals against PSG in the quarters. Neymars contributions look to be better than Messi in the knockouts.
Wow :lol: Didn't watch the actual games did you? Only one in which neymar was better than Messi, maybe, was the final, and it was down to Juve doubling down on messi(who still ended up creating barca's first two goals) and leaving neymar free...
 
He'll obviously tear it up in the French league. Question remains how they'll do in the CL. Hopefully they'll crash before the semis.

If he just wins the French league it will be a step down in his career.