I thought fake 'itk' information was frowned upon on here.
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If they couldn't advance last season with a more accessible group at least they're guaranteed to play with the big boys in the group stages so it should be good news for the fans and seen as an opportunity. It could be quite the spectacle if they play like they have nothing to lose and the two teams who advance will have a big morale boost after advancing that group. It will also be though for Real Madrid and I'm only mad about Barcelona not being in a group of death but aside from that this should be one of the most interesting groups and I look forward to see how Bale and Modric are going to play against Tottenham, hope they're excited about it.
Wouldn't we worry about Spurs then ?
It's Glastons forte
He gets away with plenty.
He has made sections of this forum generally unbearable.
I very much doubt anyone is buying in to this ITK nonsence. I mean, seriously, If you had inside knowledge on a specific transfer involving Spurs & United, the last person you would share this information with a common everyday football fan such as Glastonspur.
The very reason these ITK's are what they are is because they know how to keep a secret.
I'd much rather play Spurs in a knockout than BVB or Madrid regardless of who they eliminate in the group stages. Besides Spurs would not be a problem for round of 16 as we are both from the same association.
Yet more lies. It's tiresome to see the extent to which continual lying - fabricating falsehoods - seriously degrades the quality of any discussion, not just for me but for other posters too. And as usual, the lies are coupled with personal attacks, which further moves discussion away from actually talking about football.
I have expressly said, several times, that I'm not ITK and I have never presented any information as mine. Nor have I ever said that United will sell Martial - or would sell him for £70m (or any other price for that matter). Nor am I member of SpursCommunity and nor have I based any comments I've made about Martial on whatever some poster on that forum has said.
In short, your comments are a total fabrication and do nothing but a disservice to this forum. You ought to apologise, but I won't hold my breath waiting ...
Okay, fair enough, but you did claim that "Martial wanted out of United" and his agent had been "doing the rounds" presumably in search of a potential suitor. Either way you have claimed inside knowledge of the situation, whether it came from you or a person/s you trust is irrelevent. It was you who decided to post your inside information on Martial on a forum choc-full of United fans, not your friends, and it is you who should be held accountable when your claim turns out to be complete and utter fabrication. When asked to back up your claims you refuse to do so, thus you're obviously lying.
Why don't you prove otherwise?
How do you know that Martial's agent has not been touting him around? You don't - so calling it a "fabrication" has no basis.
I've also no idea why you apparently think it's such an outrageous idea - not when the player is not getting that much playing time at United and now has been left out of the French squad, probably as a result.
It seems to me that you're simply irked by the idea that any United player is unhappy and might be looking for a way out. And so you lash out, with no basis for doing so.
Whether you like it or not (and obviously you don't), the fact is that some people do sometimes have genuine info that is not otherwise widely available. If they choose to share that info - and if I in turn choose to relay that info - then frankly it's got bugger all to do with you.
If you want to call it "lies", fine ... whatever keeps you in your cosy little bubble.
True, it can be ... tho' whether it should be is another question.
You injected the statement without a shred of evidence to support it, yet you simply expect people to take you on your word? Now that is a wild assumption.
Of course the idea of Martial wishing to leave the club bothers me, I'm a United fan. But as far as I know, based entirely on direct quotes straight from the horses mouth, he is perfectly happy to stay and fight for his place. You and only you seem to contradict this.
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You're right, some people do have inside information on certain dealings in and around certain clubs, but very very rarely do they share this information with the rest of the world. People "in the know" are privvy to such information precisely because they can keep a secret, otherwise they wouldn't be in a position of power in the first place.
Not saying it doesn't happen, of course there are leaks now and again but it's very rare, and it's not the sort of information that you and I - general everyday football fans - will ever get to hear.
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Can we start giving out warnings for ITK nonsense?
I've noticed this alot.
You try and prove your arguments when challenged by simply turning things on their head and saying 'well can you prove otherwise?'. It's really nonsensical.
The only known facts are what JM and Anthony Martial say themselves, all of which point to him staying at the club and being pretty happy where he is. Even his family have reiterated this.
In the Sancho thread you decided that the player wants to move to Spurs to work with Poch as he is the best at developing players. When asked if it might be to do with the known fact he wants to move back to his family in London you piped up again asking others to prove this was the case.
What you need to understand is that if you're going to make massive assumptions you will be likely asked to explain why you have come to the conclusion and challenged by the credible evidence available. This is where you fall down and lose all credibility as you're unable to explain yourself or back up your opinion with logical, well thought-out discussion.
Hence why you're labeled a wind up.
I'm a pretty long time resident of Spurscommunity. While there is a big section on ITK info most is bollocks, and it's basically seen as a bit of craic, yes some posters take it more seriously than others I'd say a small percentage actually buy into it. There is about 10 supposed ITK and I only take notice of about 2 of them and even then I don't depend on it. The 2 I do acknowledge have been right on things over seasons and have never been way off the mark. There was another one but he was clearly linked to Harry cause since he left he has basically disappeared.
And that's where all this "Martial wants to leave United" stuff originated from?
Honestly no I never seen anything about Martial wanting to leave. Most members don't see it happening and no credible ITK mentioned anything. Some have said about the possible bid, but IMO they are talking balls.
Poor result for Spurs. 6 points off the top with the goal difference acting as an extra point. They must be 5 points worse off on last seasons equivalent games too. And possibly the alternative league table too. Very poor.
Two games at Wembley haven't won either despite being overwhelming favourites to do so. Is it more than just a Wembley hoodoo though? Have people figured Tottenham out? It's going to be a long season for them at Wembley and I for one can't wait.
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Yeah it's been a really terrible start. Looks like Wembley really could destroy our season this year which is depressing as I was hopeful it wouldn't have much impact. Eriksen and Kane in particular have started this season in terrible form and we have nothing to offer without them. I sincerely hope we get some more signings in.
Even though they didn't play well if they had held on it would have been a big confidence booster to get over a mental hump. Wembley will really hurt them, even though they'll probably get that first win there sooner or later. Kane is predictably having a slow start, will improve
Kane in all honesty should have scored at least 4 goals in the last 3 matches. He has been very wasteful.
All joking aside I would've fancied Spurs for the league were it not for the move. It's a great long term move for Spurs but short term I think they'll suffer. And I don't think that stops at the end of this season either. It normally takes a while for any team to settle in a new stadium. It's such a crucial period for them now. The right signings could mitigate it but you need real pace in the attacking areas and it's tough to see where that is going to come from.
That was such a shit goal to concede. Opened the defence so easily and Spurs defence looked very lazy.
I wrote months ago in Tottenham's last season topic that 1. they aren't going to spend big this summer because of the stadium debt, 2. Wembley will cause them hugely, and 3. this season will be a much more difficult season for them as the like of Man United and City will improve a lot.
Just 3 games. Till too early to judge but let's see
Just 3 games. Till too early to judge but let's see
So how about Kieran Trippier eh?
I wrote months ago in Tottenham's last season topic that 1. they aren't going to spend big this summer because of the stadium debt, 2. Wembley will cause them a huge trouble, and 3. this will be a much more difficult season for them as the like of Man United and City will improve a lot.
Just 3 games. Till too early to judge but let's see
So far you are spot on however the next few days are incredibly important. We simply need to bring in some more players and we DESPERATELY need a right back. Although I have been against us signing Aurier, right now I'd welcome him with open arms tbh.
He's the sort of signing you have to go for as you can't compete with the big boys when it comes to the mega money signings.
By all accounts he is one of the best RB in the world but his behaviour is an issue. Hopefully, for your sake, there'll be some behavioural clauses in his contract.
Yeah, typical Kane. He starts really ramping up as the season progresses and by the end of the season, he's scoring 2-3 goals per game.
Except City and Man United, the next few days are really important for all other top 6 teams - with Chelsea included, of course.
Chelsea already have our targets. Hopefully you do have them too.
Yeah - we also really need Rose back fit and hopefully in the right frame of mind to play for us. A lot of our play depends on our strength from the wing backs and unfortunately although Trippier and Davies are capable players they are not good enough for what we need to do imo. If we did sign Aurier and if Rose came back then our entire team raises a level.
By the way, Trippier was very poor today. Only three games in but I do remember one poster saying he's better than Walker and would easily replace him. Selling Walker for that price was good business but Aurier can't come quick enough for Spurs, even if he's a bit of a twat
The majority of Spurs on twitter and radio stations said the same, Trippier is better they all said.. well why didn't City spend £50m on him then?
You readily believe there's every chance Martial would be eager to get to Tottenham, yet refuse to believe there's anything in the Dier wanting to come to United stories. It's classic you.
Only a fool would say Tripper was better than Walker. I've only seen them suggesting he was better at crossing.
There's a monumental difference physicality wise. Same with Rose to Davies.
Did Kyle Walker give up the goal? Oh...wait.
I wrote months ago in Tottenham's last season topic that 1. they aren't going to spend big this summer because of the stadium debt, 2. Wembley will cause them hugely, and 3. this season will be a much more difficult season for them as the like of Man United and City will improve a lot.
Just 3 games. Till too early to judge but let's see
They peaked at 2nd. They're not going to find the Manchester clubs so easy to finish above this year.
"So guys, here's this thing that definitely happened"
"Do you have any proof it happened?"
"Do you have any proof it DIDN'T happen? BOOM CHECKMATE"
Like listening to a flatearther
"Do you have any proof it happened?"
"Do you have any proof it DIDN'T happen? BOOM CHECKMATE"
Like listening to a flatearther
4D chess mate
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