I wouldn't quite go that far, but the hype of certain well known Spurs fans is looking pretty premature right now.
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I wouldn't quite go that far, but the hype of certain well known Spurs fans is looking pretty premature right now.
The curse continues
Don't think it is mate, they've gone from being simply faultless as home last season to having lost one and drawn against two teams who'll be battling it out at the bottom of the table.
Spurs will have all this next year as well when they move into their new stadium 
No way will Alli still be there then
No way will Alli still be there then
Hang on, are you saying dropping out of top 4 looks to be likely, or like me, that it's a bit early to say that?
Arsenal look dreadful, and Liverpool have dropped points to poor teams too. So dropping out of top 4 still looks a push.
They've already dropped points in 3 home games.
It seems this "Wembley curse" is all nonsense. Yes they've dropped points at home, but is there anything concrete linking their form to where they play at?
Will not be a title for Spurs this season. Poor performance today. Can't even enjoy it that much as I don't think Spurs will fight for the title with us potentially and I can't bother too much regarding top 4 risk.
They best hope it isn't nonsense, otherwise they're just not that great
I feel like Mike Dean was doing everything he could today to prove he wasn't a Spurs fan.
Agree that both Arsenal and Liverpool are worse and with that said a top four spot should be reachable but in terms of a title challenge, I've said they've blown there best chance of winning the league for many years to come and this season they won't be close.
It's not down to there form, it's more to do with teams that go there will see it as a cup final if you like.. playing in the national stadium and all that.
Yep, agree with that. No way they're keeping up with City or Chelsea, and it's to be seen whether they can match us
Why does it "seem" nonsense now, when you've just watched them struggle against a poor team? To make it 3 games, no win in the league? I'd say that makes it look a very real concern wouldn't you?
Fans further away from the pitch, with way more plastics attracted by Wembley. Career thrill situation for all of the opposition players who never thought they'd get the chance to play there.
It's a very real thing
Could very easily have been one pen, the one that shot off the defenders head and the second defender looked to put his arm out.
The other 2 I can see why they weren't given. the Aurier one looked like he'd overrun it /dived, and only the replay suggested otherwise. Whereas the first incident looked dodgy on first glance
To add, Tottenham record at Wembley has been underwhelming over the years. So the sample size is not just games this season.
Didn't expect that Wembley thing to be so important. Can't imagine the other contenders to suffer so much from playing at Wembley. A bit strange that.
Us Arsenal fans expected it because when we played at Wembley in the CL back in late 90s we were awful there. Its not a good stadium to use as a home stadium as most clubs subconsciously raise their game there.
They looked more fluid in the CL without Alli. Obviously not saying he's shite or anything, but they haven't impressed me at all in the PL and he's been among the least impressive thus far. He needs to find form soon.
Should have won easily today just one of those games, referee was an absolute joke. Not too worried yet.
Home form is a big concern for Spurs, did well against Dortmund but still haven't won at home in league.
Like few said, stadium thing came at wrong time for Spurs.
Like few said, stadium thing came at wrong time for Spurs.
Bizarre from them. Didn't produce one single diagonal or long ball forward(that I can remember of) when Llorente was bought on making that substitute pointless. Should've had a penalty though.
How is Sanchez doing?
He was the best player on the pitch in my opinion. Composed and supremely self-assured throughout the game, the polar opposite of the guy we saw in the EL final. Yet another excellent find for Poch and the Spuds.
With Vertonghen and Alderweireld, that back 3 is looking scary good.
I didn't think he was good against Dortmund, his CB partners bailed him for his poor decisions.
Didn't watch the Dortmund game so I'll have to take your word for that.
But yesterday he looked excellent.
Spurs are missing Walker and Rose quite a bit IMO Trippier and Davies are a couple of levels below those two and it shows
Spurs will look so much better when Aurier and Rose are both starting. Spurs attack is quite narrow so they rely on their wing backs to create that width to stretch teams
Spurs will look so much better when Aurier and Rose are both starting. Spurs attack is quite narrow so they rely on their wing backs to create that width to stretch teams
Would it be considered wumming to say that now that they're at the big boy's table, they just can't deal with it?
Because that's what it is. Beyond the additional 424 square feet of the Wembley pitch, they've been, as of yet unable to adapt to the fact that smaller teams now see them as a top tier club and play accordingly. Before, whether they were bottom of the league or not, they wouldn't sit deep in their own halves and play for a draw against them.
Because that's what it is. Beyond the additional 424 square feet of the Wembley pitch, they've been, as of yet unable to adapt to the fact that smaller teams now see them as a top tier club and play accordingly. Before, whether they were bottom of the league or not, they wouldn't sit deep in their own halves and play for a draw against them.
He's not a find, everyone and their dog knew about him.
We knew about him sure, but his reputation as a top young centerback had been somewhat tarnished by his poor performance in the EL final. That Poch was seemingly the only manager interested in signing him speaks volumes for his judgement. Fail to think of many other managers whom were prepared to take a £40m punt on a relatively unknown quantity, and from what I've seen of Sanchez thus far that punt appears to be paying off.
Still don't think Spurs make top 4 though, with of without him.
Clubs wouldn't change their decision based on 1 game, that's for us fans to do
. Thing is, when you're paying that much, you need to play the guy and Spurs especially with their 3 man defence are one of the best placed clubs for that. Sanchez too would prefer a Spurs at this point of his career. I wouldn't draw any conclusions about who were interested in him either, just impossible for us to know. In any case, spurs have paid top whack for him and fair play to them for going for it but none of that changes the fact that they bought an extremely highly rated player, not an unknown.Their fundamentals are the best in the league, the covering of positions when someone steps forward, their defensive solidity. Obviously they need to stretch teams more on that pitch, but the more pressing issue for me is the lack of craft in midfield, someone to help Eriksen control the tempo and create chances. If they could somehow get Modric back they'd be sorted.
Good to hear, always nice to see one of our own (Ajax and Eredivisie) do well.
Not getting a penalty isn't the reason Spurs didn't win yesterday. They created about two chances all day long. They just had no idea how to break Swansea down.
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Did you watch the game? We created more than 2 chances. It was one of those games, they defended well, their keeper had an outstanding game and the ref had a stinker. 26 shots with 8 on target and Kane hitting the bar. Happens a lot, I was happy with how we played, dissapointed Poch set up a little negatively in the middle.
I watched it all. You had a lot of shots from range and tight angles. Kane's chance and the one for Aurier were the only good chances. You can blame the ref all you want but it's not the reason Spurs didn't win. They were slow and ponderous throughout.
How have I "blamed the ref all I want" it wasn't his fault we lost but it contributed, do u think he was good?
Dortmund played into Spurs' hands with their woeful defending and even then Dortmund should have got at least a draw
You're easily pleased then.
Spurs without the width and pace provided by Walker and Rose tend to look a little one dimensional for my liking. Eriksen appears to be solely responsible for the creative side of things in this Spurs setup (at least with Dembele out of the team) but he lacked any real variation to his game yesterday, far to direct and ultimately predictable. Sissoko, bar a solitary pass to set Kane up, offered nothing but sideways passes all game. Dier was largely ineffective as he has been all season offensively. Son simply runs about a lot offering nowt in the way of end product. Alli is missing Rose and aside from a couple of goals has looked average thus far. It was a poor performance from every offensive aspect.
Defensively speaking they were as solid as a rock. Sanchez flanked by Vertonghen and Alderweireld is probably the best defensive setup in the prem bar none, which is set to be your only saving grace this season.
It was implied in your post. No I don't think he had a good game but it's not why Spurs were so toothless. You can continue to pretend to yourself that Spurs were just unlucky but any neutral watching the game isn't going to think that. They had zero ideas.
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