Zinedine Zidane | Resigns

I think he has enough credit to stay until the end of the season. Later there would be some kind of agreement not to continue (as with Mourinho).
Always in the case that the season is horrible, now it´s too early to say.
Zidane has already said several times that he knows where he is and that sooner or later he will be sacked.
I still think that it is a problem of motivation and reaching the optimal physical level.
I like how he defends his players, although his stubbornness with Benzema may be a mistake. I also like how he trusts young people and his idea of attacking passing football, with a technical profile of player, so I hope he brings the situation back.
 
Think he's been sold short by the board or whoever is in charge of transfers.

They miss Carvaljal big time. They never replaced Pepe, Morata or Danilo. They needed another attacker regardless.
He's not really used what he did get though, has he? Their midfield is clearly not working and seems to be their biggest problem, yet he persists with it week after week. Ceballos barely gets a look.

They've been having the same problems for months but he doesn't change anything.

A lot of the players look unfit, as well.
 
Yeah I know he's won two CL's with Madrid but this is how quick it can turn in football. If Perez isn't happy there's only one way for Zidane.

When you start your management career like he has, the fall just has to be hard and painfull. He probably thought he can walk on water. He deserves some time to turn it around when reality of this season kicks in, which should be about now.
 
Also why were there some fans that thought the idea of selling quality players and replacing them with the u21 team was a good plan? You could see this mess happening from the summer but Madrid fans on here were adamant it was a good way of doing things.
 
Also why were there some fans that thought the idea of selling quality players and replacing them with the u21 team was a good plan? You could see this mess happening from the summer but Madrid fans on here were adamant it was a good way of doing things.
The thing is, the youngsters haven't been afforded a chance. Ceballos, Theo, Mayoral have barely played at all
 
They underestimated the loss of James and Morata and overestimated their youth. I think they were too settled in the market. It's always good to improve if you can.

And Modric-Kroos have been below par all season imo.
 
All the faults started from the market which Zidane clearly had no problem with it. Madrid did the same mistake after having a great season : don't reinforce the team anymore and don't spend, the team is good enough and will compete easily as they had done a great season before. This mistake always results in a terrible next season.

Zidane has said several times what suggests that he had no problem with what happened of selling important players and not getting proper replacements, so he's the one to be blamed here not the board imo.
 
Cycle keeps going on with Madrid then. He won't be there next season.

Can't say he wasn't at fault in the market tbh.

Depends how much of it was his decision. Clearly needed to freshen up the squad a bit, new CB, competition up front etc, but seemingly Zidane did want Mbappé at one point so he may have tried to address those issues for all we know.
 
Depends how much of it was his decision. Clearly needed to freshen up the squad a bit, new CB, competition up front etc, but seemingly Zidane did want Mbappé at one point so he may have tried to address those issues for all we know.

They should have moved to other target after failure of Mbappe deal. They didn't, and here's the consequence.
 
He will go trough the crisis and i'm happy with that.
The squad is still good enough - only a RB and Striker Back-Up is missing - i think it would be the same with Morata.

Only Cristiano is dangerous there. I'm a fan of Benzema, but he is not good enough for the first 11 atm. Besides Marcelo, Kroos and Modric are not in form.

Carvajal, Varane, Bale, Kovacic injured. 3 of them are starting players.
 
Plenty of Real Madrid managers have been sacked for doing far better then he has so far this season.

If he does go, I wonder who would take over?
 
The thing is, the youngsters haven't been afforded a chance. Ceballos, Theo, Mayoral have barely played at all
Saw all of them when Madrid played a 3rd division side and only Ceballos looked ready. Theo has played a fair bit and hasn't been impressive.
 
Zidane isn't really the problem, the tactics are the same as last season. Injuries have played a big part in this but the biggest problem is the form of some of their midfield and defensive players. Isco is playing better than last season and both Benzema and Cristiano are about at the same level as last season.

Their fullbacks played a huge part in their attack and with Carvajal injured (with an 18 year old in his place), Marcelo out of form, combined with all of Casemiro, Modric and especially Kroos being subpar are leading to this. Ceballos, Llorente and Kovacic once he returns have to start challenging for those places.

They should have replaced Morata but the front 3 isn't the problem right now.
 
No ideological or personal evolution from last year.

Looked like an already heavyweight boxing champ having to remember his punches by memory and not instinct because he'd lost his touch fat fighting fodder.

Very surprising Madrid have fallen into the trap of standing still, but then again, City/PSG $$$$ means they (and ourselves) can no longer bully the transfer market.

They have a problem very soon in that Benzema, Ronaldo, and Bale will all lose alot of fizz, that's one huge investment required.
 
Such poor work rate from the team, so many gaping holes for spurs to exploit because half the team can't be arsed to run back.
 
Zidane isn't really the problem, the tactics are the same as last season. Injuries have played a big part in this but the biggest problem is the form of some of their midfield and defensive players. Isco is playing better than last season and both Benzema and Cristiano are about at the same level as last season.

Their fullbacks played a huge part in their attack and with Carvajal injured (with an 18 year old in his place), Marcelo out of form, combined with all of Casemiro, Modric and especially Kroos being subpar are leading to this. Ceballos, Llorente and Kovacic once he returns have to start challenging for those places.

They should have replaced Morata but the front 3 isn't the problem right now.

Yeah this is correct. Their back 4 is probably the biggest reason for their demise. Ramos was banned already, Marcelo and Carvajal with injuries and struggling to get in shape. Varane with yet another injury and Nacho I think also had a slight knock here and there?

Not sure if they fielded the same back four in any of the games so far this season. :lol:
 
Plenty of Real Madrid managers have been sacked for doing far better then he has so far this season.

If he does go, I wonder who would take over?
I'd say Pochettino or Low
 
Yeah this is correct. Their back 4 is probably the biggest reason for their demise. Ramos was banned already, Marcelo and Carvajal with injuries and struggling to get in shape. Varane with yet another injury and Nacho I think also had a slight knock here and there?

Not sure if they fielded the same back four in any of the games so far this season. :lol:

A few games back they had to start Casemiro as a CB too :wenger:

Meanwhile Pepe has been killing it for Besiktas and they let him go because they weren't bothered to give him a 2 year contract instead of a 1 year contract.

Nacho as their third CB when Varane is very injury prone and Ramos will get suspended a bunch of times was suicide. They'll probably have to field a CB partnership of Casemiro and Nacho some time this season.
 
The guy wins you back to back champions leagues, doesn’t get backed in the transfer market and you want him sacked 10 weeks into the season?
 
The guy wins you back to back champions leagues, doesn’t get backed in the transfer market and you want him sacked 10 weeks into the season?
:lol: Modern football.

It is fecking sad. If we sack him while we're still in the CL and top 3-4 in the PD, Flo can do one.
 
No ideological or personal evolution from last year.

Looked like an already heavyweight boxing champ having to remember his punches by memory and not instinct because he'd lost his touch fat fighting fodder.

Very surprising Madrid have fallen into the trap of standing still, but then again, City/PSG $$$$ means they (and ourselves) can no longer bully the transfer market.

They have a problem very soon in that Benzema, Ronaldo, and Bale will all lose alot of fizz, that's one huge investment required.

Think that's the biggest factor.

I don't like the idea of even more obscenely wealthy clubs but if that's the only way to balance the Madrid/Barcelona dominance so be it.
 
He‘s getting found out, he can‘t make that super sub Morata anymore. Why he didn‘t go after a striker who can do something with crosses remains a mystery. I for one can‘t see where Zidane is going with this team, playing young guns is honorable, but apart from that, there‘s not much, and developing a player into something special isn‘t happening, Perez won‘t have that for long.
 
:lol: Modern football.

It is fecking sad. If we sack him while we're still in the CL and top 3-4 in the PD, Flo can do one.

The guy has been phenomenal for you mate. He deserves a chance to turn things around (which I’m sure he will do if he’s given time).

Time for the chairmen to back Zidane in the transfer window.
 
So if Unai Emery fails again with PSG this season, and Zidane gets sacked, who will be PSG's top priority, Zidane or Mourinho?
 
It was unsustainable in the long run to have players of James' and Morata's quality on the bench. Either they're your primary options, or they go elsewhere where they will be. That luxury was bound to end at some point.
 
It was unsustainable in the long run to have players of James' and Morata's quality on the bench. Either they're your primary options, or they go elsewhere where they will be. That luxury was bound to end at some point.

This is a key part, can even put Pepe there who gave that defence some crazy depth (even mention Danilo).

And maybe they're playing the "closer future" card with Isco while he keeps getting minutes here and there until Modric and Ronaldo take the final step out of the team, but any team would be lucky of having a 12th player like him
 
:lol: Modern football.

It is fecking sad. If we sack him while we're still in the CL and top 3-4 in the PD, Flo can do one.
Modern? Madrid straight out sacked Del Bosque after he won La Liga, Heynckes after winning the first CL for the club after decades. I wouldn't be surprised.

It was unsustainable in the long run to have players of James' and Morata's quality on the bench. Either they're your primary options, or they go elsewhere where they will be. That luxury was bound to end at some point.
Agree. However, the way Real Madrid neglected to strength the squad with immediate quality (not the youngster) is the root of problem.
 
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Gonna get sacked i feel.

Perez could lure pochetino himself as the next main man? Could happen as he's the hottest property out there.
 
Madrid pulled a Chelsea. Winning titles and not strengthening has been the reason why Chelsea are spineless in defending their titles.
 
:lol: Modern football.

It is fecking sad. If we sack him while we're still in the CL and top 3-4 in the PD, Flo can do one.

Real sacking some of their most successful managers is hardly a recent sensation.
 
This is a key part, can even put Pepe there who gave that defence some crazy depth (even mention Danilo).

And maybe they're playing the "closer future" card with Isco while he keeps getting minutes here and there until Modric and Ronaldo take the final step out of the team, but any team would be lucky of having a 12th player like him

I don't know where i would start with Isco....Theoretically speaking, had he spent his 16/17 season at Barcelona i feel he would've been their third best overall player, yet due to tactics and i guess a bit of squad politics, he wasn't even a clear starter in Madrid. That's just crazy honestly, and shows the depth Zidane had at his disposal. That doesn't excuse Real for not getting replacements, even if they would have almost certainly be of lesser quality.
 
I don't know where i would start with Isco....Theoretically speaking, had he spent his 16/17 season at Barcelona i feel he would've been their third best overall player, yet due to tactics and i guess a bit of squad politics, he wasn't even a clear starter in Madrid. That's just crazy honestly, and shows the depth Zidane had at his disposal. That doesn't excuse Real for not getting replacements, even if they would have almost certainly be of lesser quality.

Suppose it's been a problem Real have had over the years in regards to depth. Players like Robben and Sneijder ended up leaving and leading their respective sides to CL success, but struggle to nail down a starting place when in Spain.
 
Gonna get sacked i feel.

Perez could lure pochetino himself as the next main man? Could happen as he's the hottest property out there.
Zidane is not the problem, its lack of serious investment. Team is getting a bit old and too successful, so lacking a tiny bit of motivation, which gets exposed against top opposition.

Not being allowed to choose who he buys and having to have his tactics approved by the board: Poch would have a nightmare at Madrid. The worse move he could make right now in his career.
 
Dortmund being hopeless in Europe this season has helped him I think, had they beat Apoel Nicosia home and away he might have been in a bit of trouble
 
Madrid pulled a Chelsea. Winning titles and not strengthening has been the reason why Chelsea are spineless in defending their titles.

The prices had gone up beyonf thier range for the category of players they would want.