Mourinho interview with L'Équipe: I'm a constructor, a football mason

Varun said:
If he really feels this way, he should think about why an elite manager like him has not been able to build on the good work he thinks he's done at clubs and do everything he needs to to ensure it doesn't happen again.
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Yes. It doesn't even make any logical sense. It would make sense if he left every job of his own volition and someone else took over and elevated it, but he basically got fired almost every time for not getting the squads to perform.

He leaves behind talented players due to good work in the transfer market; but pretty much most managers at top clubs do that as @Moonred points out above.
 
He might well be a mason, but his buildings are ugly as feck. Jose is the IKEA of architectural flamboyance.
 
Quite a fair assessment of his own ability.

Also really like the way he has dealt with media and some of our fans bs recently.
 
Kapardin said:
In LvG's second season, we were never the better team in most of the games. As far as his first season is concerned, I'd put it on par with Jose's if it were not for the fact that we actually won trophies.

The league may be our main focus, but the point is, did Jose do better than LvG's first season? Answer is yes because of the trophies. In addition, the only reason we threw away a scrap for 4th is because of the EL, while LvG barely scraped 4th with no Europe.
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Sorry, I think if you look at the finalists of the League cup and Europa League over the last decade we're hardly in elite company, so they are good to win, but not really. We took the piss out of Liverpool for a Mickey mouse treble, that doesn't change just because we won them.

League position is the ultimate decider.

And we dominated lots of tes under LVG. Lots...
 
I feel the opposite is true. Mou is the best in the biz for shortterm success after which he implodes.
 
Why is he talking to French media ? Don't like that one bit.
 
Lipstick and winks for PSG imho, they may even eat this bullsh*t because Emery is not enough for their ambition.
 
Paul_Scholes18 said:
He did a decent job at Real Madrid even if ultimately Barcelona won more against them, but he is not the reason they won after he left. Ronaldo has been a key reason why he did so well and why they still doing so well. SAF and the Manchester United staff that did develop him deserve most credit for that. Mourinho had him as well.

They have bought a lot of great player which is a key reason why they are doing so well. Some of them during the time of Mourinho, but not most of them. Key players for them winning the champions league have been Ramos (before Mourinho), Ronaldo, Bale that has nothing to do with Mourinho. He bought Modric I guess, but that would be the one key contribution in terms of players brought in by Mourinho.

The tactic that won them was due to other managers and not Mourinho as well.
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It's not just the players but the mentality he changed for them. He made them believe that they can beat and match the barca side. 2011-12 la liga title was one of Madrid's greatest achievement in this era. It gave them the belief , yes we can.

But because it is jose people are always hesitant to give him the credit.
 
Moonred said:
Not sure Jose has done that consistently but that’s also due to time and other contributing factors. Any good coach with moderate time and backing should do the same construction that Jose is talking about so it’s par for the course.
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Agree.

Jose may just get that ready made team in PSG I reckon.
 
Is that photo of him peeping out of the door real :lol:.
 
Home&Away said:
What a fantastic thread for all those emoticons from my thread. People overestimate what 'foundations' are & get completely aggressive when talking about LVG.

LVG could never attract the players José has; players like pogba Lukaku and Bailey are players that are bought to be at the centre of our team to play the way the manager wants - they are Josés players and at the core of our tactics.

What LVG did was however briefly; move us on from the grand shadows of SAF and the confusion of Moyes - got rid of players like evra, RVP nearly all from a previous generation (apart from Rooney & this is why he was targeted) & got us playing a very basic, tactical type of football again coupled with some youngsters.

Ever since he came; he implemented a basic tactical awareness back to a club that had to change find its identity as quick as possible & however much we may need or want to play counter attacking football in the games José decides; we can flip a switch and play possession football when we want to.

Because that's what he meant about philosophy - United is theoretically speeking a possession football based team club ever since LVG's arrival & this will be shown in the games we decide to play that way down to the players that will break in to our first team in the future. The same with a 352.

For along time no one will have to rebalance the squad the way LVG did and initiate a new tactical approach - more what is needed is for the future managers be that from José to ppchetino to giggs - is to come in and find those players that play in the way their manager wants to.

We are right now a mix of a possession based counter attacking team due to the way José wants United to play; but united itself is a possession based football club & will be for a long time.
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This nonsense again? LVG was a great character, and 20-years ago, a great manager too. By the time he arrived at United he was well past his sell by date. Your ridiculous attempt to credit LVG for United's victory over Tottenham was embarrassing. LVG tried, failed and ultimately abandoned 3 at the back. He could not make it work and gave up. Attempting to use LVG's failure for a victory under another manager, 2-years later is absurd.

LVG bought and sold poorly as United manager. He sold players he might have been better advised to keep and brought in only one great player in Martial, some decent players in Herrera and maybe Rojo, some squad players in Blind and Romero and a string of expensive disasters from Angel Di Maria, to Falco via Morgan Schneiderlin, Memphis Depay, Luke Shaw, Victor Valdes and Bastian Schweinsteiger.

Let's give him credit for turning to Rashford. There were other options, but LVG took Giggs' advise and gave him a shot. What he ultimately left though, was a team without a spine and who's only success in 2-years was scraping past Palace in an FA Cup Final and a string of great results against some top sides in his first season. Those results, it would later turn out, were a complete anomaly and were the result of using another system which he would again later abandon.

I liked LVG, he should go down as a great manager, but not for Manchester United. The 4 signings Mourinho made when he started were key, as were two of the three he made this summer.

I know you're like a dog with a bone on this point, but it's time to let go.
 
deafepl said:
No, we finished the 5th to qualified for the Europa League, not because we won Fa cup to qualify for it. If we finished outside UEL spots and won FA cup, yeah he would get credit for getting us to Europa league. Also if we didn't lose one game in last two games, we'd be qualified for the champions league instead and finish above City.
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He credited 'Mr Van Gal' for the Charity Shield last season.
 
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Loke said:
He's good at provoking, many subtle digs in there. Great entertainer off the pitch :lol:
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He is entertaining at times I won't lie. Seems to come with the territory of good managers. Ferguson was off-his-scone many a time with the shite he talked.
 
Minimalist said:
He is entertaining at times I won't lie. Seems to come with the territory of good managers. Ferguson was off-his-scone many a time with the shite he talked.
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"He could have killed him!".
 
beedoubleyou said:
This nonsense again? LVG was a great character, and 20-years ago, a great manager too. By the time he arrived at United he was well past his sell by date. Your ridiculous attempt to credit LVG for United's victory over Tottenham was embarrassing. LVG tried, failed and ultimately abandoned 3 at the back. He could not make it work and gave up. Attempting to use LVG's failure for a victory under another manager, 2-years later is absurd.

LVG bought and sold poorly as United manager. He sold players he might have been better advised to keep and brought in only one great player in Martial, some decent players in Herrera and maybe Rojo, some squad players in Blind and Romero and a string of expensive disasters from Angel Di Maria, to Falco via Morgan Schneiderlin, Memphis Depay, Luke Shaw, Victor Valdes and Bastian Schweinsteiger.

Let's give him credit for turning to Rashford. There were other options, but LVG took Giggs' advise and gave him a shot. What he ultimately left though, was a team without a spine and who's only success in 2-years was scraping past Palace in an FA Cup Final and a string of great results against some top sides in his first season. Those results, it would later turn out, were a complete anomaly and were the result of using another system which he would again later abandon.

I liked LVG, he should go down as a great manager, but not for Manchester United. The 4 signings Mourinho made when he started were key, as were two of the three he made this summer.

I know you're like a dog with a bone on this point, but it's time to let go.
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Nah I'm okay - I won't let go & I don't need to. I didn't credit our victory over spurs to LVG; that's just baffling. I credited our unsure nature with fully adapting to 352 formation and playing it in a couple of games in Jose's first season, the preseason and again couple of games this season because of LVG doing just that; twiddling with it himself. Nothing more & nothing less.

Read my reply to odegaard about how LVG's basics tactical approach would likely have a more penetrative impact down to our youth levels than some of the more refined and much better tactics that José has put out that are harder for youth players to grasp. Anyway; wrong thread for this - so talk to me on the other one.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Agree.

Jose may just get that ready made team in PSG I reckon.
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I get the feeling that all this bullshit regarding fans booing etc is him just laying the foundations for another early exit.

I’ll be very surprised if he is still the manager going into the 2019/20 season
 
I am starting to have some sour feelings towards Jose.. I have been in his corner but lately he seems to have hit the destrcution button..
 
Bepi said:
Lipstick and winks for PSG imho, they may even eat this bullsh*t because Emery is not enough for their ambition.
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Then Neymar and Mbappe would be playing as wing backs.

There would really be no sense in hiring Mourinho by PSG because he really won't be helping their cause. They're already dominant in their league and if they want to win the CL Mourinho is certainly not the guy to do it for them.

Mourinho seems more like the kind of guy who'd take an underdog team and make them do wonders in the CL with his defending tactics rather than taking a dominant non underdog team and deliver success in the competition.

Their fans would only end up being frustrated seeing their expensively assembled squad park the bus and play defensively against inferior oppositions then eventually see themselves knocked out due to negative approaches that doesn't suit the profile of players their team have.
 
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Green_Red said:
Sorry, I think if you look at the finalists of the League cup and Europa League over the last decade we're hardly in elite company, so they are good to win, but not really. We took the piss out of Liverpool for a Mickey mouse treble, that doesn't change just because we won them.

League position is the ultimate decider.

And we dominated lots of tes under LVG. Lots...
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We are not talking about the prestige of the trophies. Let's say both did equally in the league, but 2 Mickey Mouse trophies separates Jose from LvG. That means Jose is the winner, and the best period we had since SAF. Simple as that.

FWIW, I value the EL trophy more than you do. Was happy winning it once, though I'd prefer to not go back into that competition again.

We dominated some games under LvG in his first season, and plunged to some real lows in his 2nd. Note that LvG had no Europe to contend with in his first season, so it's not really saying much.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
Looks like he's whoring himself out to PSG with all these interviews in the French media.
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He has always made some interviews for French medias. See the controversial interview about the age of eto'o for Canal+ when he was in charge of Chelsea

Also, for this specific interview, the journalist said he was courting him during several months.
 
Let's face it PSG's first choice is going to be Pep. Jose will be second choice...if that If we finish 4th who knows.

Anyone get the sneaky feeling Jose is setting him-self up for a summer exit?
 
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