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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Had enough of what, specifically?

Globalisation, overpopulation, new crime waves in the UK from people from foreign places.
Muslim gangs in prison targeting other criminals.
We should only be letting the right ones in and that is when we have sufficient housing.
 
Not quite accurate as 1.5m foreign citizens can vote in our elections and over 700k are from Ireland. I don't like it and when I complained was told it dates back to 1922 and is the same in every election.
With England the most densely populated country in Europe (except very small entities like Malta) we have had enough.

Sorry but can you clarify? Who are the foreign citizens that can vote and to which election?
 
Globalisation, overpopulation, new crime waves in the UK from people from foreign places.
Muslim gangs in prison targeting other criminals.
We should only be letting the right ones in and that is when we have sufficient housing.
Ah, gotcha. You're a daily express racist.

Foreigners are less likely to commit crimes than British born people.
 
Globalisation, overpopulation, new crime waves in the UK from people from foreign places.
Muslim gangs in prison targeting other criminals.
We should only be letting the right ones in and that is when we have sufficient housing.

Can you cite your sources on that please? Sounds like you’ve been listening to Dacre, Desmond, Golding and Robinson

There’s enough housing out there, it’s just in the wrong hands.
 
One of the main reasons I left the UK in the early 90's.
It feels far, far worse now or maybe I'm just more conscious of it.
Was more aware of the political divide really. One or two here might remember me banging on for the best part of a decade about Europe splitting the Tory party, but I admit I saw that as affecting them more than seeing it split the country as it has.

Maybe I should have thought about Labour a bit more as well. I'm sure Corbyn and his 'wing' are as anti-Europe as they ever were, but they can't say that following the referendum result, and less so with the EU championing it's worker's rights during the British Left's years of exile.
It's been splitting the Tories since we joined, but yep, the sheer hatred and anger on the leave side is so strange. I guess we kind of know why, deep down.
 
Its all those Muslims from the EU's fault.

Nevermind that leaving the EU is actually likely to increase immigration from middle eastern and African countries.
 
I knew Brexit would happen as soon as the referendum was called(One of the only reasons I voted Labour during Ed Milbands time was because Labour were not offering the chance of referendum). Even though I'm a white guy I did immigrate to this country and yeah it's was pretty clear that it was happening.

As for the divide I don't there are that many Pro Brexit or Pro Remain people out there(Both have a very loud present on social media and in national newspapers). Most people 1)don't really care and 2)are too busy to care. Where there is a divide is that I don't think people(Upper middle class to the very rich)know the sheer scale of both poverty and suffering in this country. There's all sorts of examples to show the scale(Although a walk around London or a visit to the local hospital will be more than enough)but there are two things that really stick out

The first is this -


The second is Grenfell Tower. A tragedy(Although personally I would call it murder)that you expect to have seen in a Victorian history book.

This country is in a very deep crisis .
That's certainly possible. I think people who haven't lived among the poor and disadvantaged are baffled as to how people can be that desperate, living in a G7 country. It's a difficult one- I've had spells on the dole after both my degrees and the money really was a pittance. Despite that, I knew some long-term unemployed back home in Hull/E. Yorks who just did feck all, smoking weed and playing Playstation all day with no intention of finding work. The media obviously extrapolates that to all benefits claimants, when the thought that raising kids on dole etc...is a doss is laughable.
 
Didn't know that. Weird.

Only those with indefinite leave to remain, so essentially those who have emigrated here and intend to stay. People from those commonwealth countries who share our cultural values and history so why would the Brexiteers object to them voting?

The rule was brought in back in the Windrush era to ensure those who arrived to make a new life in Britain and help us rebuild post war felt a part of the nation. I'm sure the Mail will list all the potential Angolans, Nigerians, Kenyans and Virgin Islanders who can vote but the simple fact is that we don't dish out indefinite leave to remain to Commonwealth citizens any more unless the person ticks multiple boxes in terms of qualifications, wealth etc.

It's BS and they know it but it can always be spun as yet another reason how the liberally biased system does down the poor, hard pressed British man.
 
Only those with indefinite leave to remain, so essentially those who have emigrated here and intend to stay. People from those commonwealth countries who share our cultural values and history so why would the Brexiteers object to them voting?

The rule was brought in back in the Windrush era to ensure those who arrived to make a new life in Britain and help us rebuild post war felt a part of the nation. I'm sure the Mail will list all the potential Angolans, Nigerians, Kenyans and Virgin Islanders who can vote but the simple fact is that we don't dish out indefinite leave to remain to Commonwealth citizens any more unless the person ticks multiple boxes in terms of qualifications, wealth etc.

It's BS and they know it but it can always be spun as yet another reason how the liberally biased system does down the poor, hard pressed British man.
No. They can start voting right after the land in the country.

If I'm not mistaken, they are not foreign citizens.
No, I am not talking about British subjects. Anyone with a commonwealth passport is allowed to vote.
 
No. They can start voting right after the land in the country.

No, I am not talking about British subjects. Anyone with a commonwealth passport is allowed to vote.
Seems only fair given the efforts the crown made to forcefully subjugate them under British rule.
 
No. They can start voting right after the land in the country.

No, I am not talking about British subjects. Anyone with a commonwealth passport is allowed to vote.

From what I understand the people that you guys are talking about have the right of abode which means that they are commonwealth citizens which means that they are not foreign citizens. Which give them the right to vote.
 
According to the Public Accounts Committee, the Telegraph writes, there could lorries full of rotting food at ill-prepared customs points in Britain. Surely that wouldn't happen. Which sellers would accept cash on delivery knowing there's a high risk of not being paid and which buyers would pay in advance ? But what would happen if the customs are not ready ? Doubtless HMRC has everything under control ?
 
No. They can start voting right after the land in the country.

No, I am not talking about British subjects. Anyone with a commonwealth passport is allowed to vote.

Only if they have indefinite leave to remain or unlimited right of entry which extremely few of the Commonwealth citizens have these days. Ask the Hong Kong Chinese who tried fleeing to the UK when we handed Hong Kong back to China but ended up taking their cash and entrepreneurial skills to Canada, America and Australia instead as the UK had pulled the rug from all bar a few percent of them years earlier unseen.

To get ILR or URE status takes up to 2 years if you are already married to a British citizen, 5 years if not and is becoming less and less likely to be granted unless you are a high net worth individual or fall into one of the desirable skill categories. Essentially that much vaunted Australian points based immigration system you all think we should adopt once we've stopped the EU interfering.
 
Only if they have indefinite leave to remain or unlimited right of entry which extremely few of the Commonwealth citizens have these days. Ask the Hong Kong Chinese who tried fleeing to the UK when we handed Hong Kong back to China but ended up taking their cash and entrepreneurial skills to Canada, America and Australia instead as the UK had pulled the rug from all bar a few percent of them years earlier unseen.

To get ILR or URE status takes up to 2 years if you are already married to a British citizen, 5 years if not and is becoming less and less likely to be granted unless you are a high net worth individual or fall into one of the desirable skill categories. Essentially that much vaunted Australian points based immigration system you all think we should adopt once we've stopped the EU interfering.

Its hardly scientific but ILR I found to be one of the more straight forward processes - now getting the temporary leave to remain for 2 years fist was a fecking pain but the ILR was essentially a tick box process at the end of that 2 years
 
Its all those Muslims from the EU's fault.

Nevermind that leaving the EU is actually likely to increase immigration from middle eastern and African countries.

The scary thing is that this is how some of them think.

I've made one mistake in my assessment of Brexit, I over-estimated the intelligence of Brexiters
 
Globalisation, overpopulation, new crime waves in the UK from people from foreign places.
Muslim gangs in prison targeting other criminals.
We should only be letting the right ones in and that is when we have sufficient housing.
What's wrong with globalisation?
 
What's wrong with globalisation?

It encourages competition and raises the baseline, which ironically the most capitalistic of parties have now come to hate because it exposes their own inadequacies in skill level and goes against their high opinion of themselves.
 
Good news for all Brexiteers...

March 29th 2019 will be hence forth known as 'St. Theresa of the Brexit' day and will be declared a national holiday.

100 years from now the ancient order of the 'Brexiteer Day' will be celebrated with street parties held up and down Britain to honour this glorious day, when with one bound and one glorious Act of the UK Parliament, Britain once again became a free and independent nation, in Europe, but not of the EU and once more there were blue-birds seen over the White Cliffs of Dover (at least those cliffs that hadn't fallen into the sea!) ;)
or
if you come from 'remainer stock', you may be (secretly) building bonfires and burning effigies of the 'Maybot' and plotting an 85th running of the referendum, still hoping for a different result :annoyed:
 
What's wrong with globalisation?

It kills smaller businesses as everything concentrates up to the bigger boys, less accountants, less tech people, less legal people etc.

Less likely to pay their share of tax as they will register in a low tax regime or tax haven.

Less training of the workforce as skilled employees are sent in from other countries around the world, normally poorer and work for less.
 
Good news for all Brexiteers...

March 29th 2019 will be hence forth known as 'St. Theresa of the Brexit' day and will be declared a national holiday.

100 years from now the ancient order of the 'Brexiteer Day' will be celebrated with street parties held up and down Britain to honour this glorious day, when with one bound and one glorious Act of the UK Parliament, Britain once again became a free and independent nation, in Europe, but not of the EU and once more there were blue-birds seen over the White Cliffs of Dover (at least those cliffs that hadn't fallen into the sea!) ;)
or
if you come from 'remainer stock', you may be (secretly) building bonfires and burning effigies of the 'Maybot' and plotting an 85th running of the referendum, still hoping for a different result :annoyed:

100 years from now Brexit will be a hilarious chapter in the history books, where future students will read in disbelief how their ancestors were manipulated by Russia and rich toffs into self-destructing the UK economy. "But how could they have been so completely gullible and stupid?!" they'll ask. "Surely it was obvious that only a small handful of very rich people would benefit?!" they'll ask their professors. "Why yes, it was obvious." the professors will reply "But then again, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the British public.".
 
Good news for all Brexiteers...

March 29th 2019 will be hence forth known as 'St. Theresa of the Brexit' day and will be declared a national holiday.

100 years from now the ancient order of the 'Brexiteer Day' will be celebrated with street parties held up and down Britain to honour this glorious day, when with one bound and one glorious Act of the UK Parliament, Britain once again became a free and independent nation, in Europe, but not of the EU and once more there were blue-birds seen over the White Cliffs of Dover (at least those cliffs that hadn't fallen into the sea!) ;)
or
if you come from 'remainer stock', you may be (secretly) building bonfires and burning effigies of the 'Maybot' and plotting an 85th running of the referendum, still hoping for a different result :annoyed:
So you're estimating it will be around 100 years before things are looking good again post Brexit, probably as per your original schedule though. i wouldn't bank too much on the blue birds over the white cliffs though unless it's an escaped budgie as the septics who wrote the song were unaware that bluebirds are not an indigenous British species.
 
100 years from now Brexit will be a hilarious chapter in the history books

And that will be the first time anyone found something funny in a history book!

In that sense we can look forward to Brexit and its legacy, already benefitting mankind ;)
 
Good news for all Brexiteers...

March 29th 2019 will be hence forth known as 'St. Theresa of the Brexit' day and will be declared a national holiday.

100 years from now the ancient order of the 'Brexiteer Day' will be celebrated with street parties held up and down Britain to honour this glorious day, when with one bound and one glorious Act of the UK Parliament, Britain once again became a free and independent nation, in Europe, but not of the EU and once more there were blue-birds seen over the White Cliffs of Dover (at least those cliffs that hadn't fallen into the sea!) ;)
or
if you come from 'remainer stock', you may be (secretly) building bonfires and burning effigies of the 'Maybot' and plotting an 85th running of the referendum, still hoping for a different result :annoyed:
The song for St Theresa's Day has already been written - I Believe.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows
"""""""" that somewhere in the darkest night, a candle glows
"""""""" for everyone who goes astray, someone will come to show the way
I believe, I believe :)
 
Globalisation, overpopulation, new crime waves in the UK from people from foreign places.
Muslim gangs in prison targeting other criminals.
We should only be letting the right ones in and that is when we have sufficient housing.
Let me guess, you read the Daily Express.
 
It already is a race to the bottom, has been for years.
I can't disagree with you there Stan but as a nation the Brits seem to have misinterpreted the conditions of said race and believe we should run it with our heads stuck up our arses. This whole thing is beyond a fecking farce and would be funny if it weren't likely to blight the lives of this and future generations unnecessarily.
 
The song for St Theresa's Day has already been written - I Believe.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows
"""""""" that somewhere in the darkest night, a candle glows
"""""""" for everyone who goes astray, someone will come to show the way
I believe, I believe :)

Very Good :lol:!

Hopefully St. Theresa's relatives will donate her 'kitten heels' to the nation, to be venerated in years to come as an ancient relic and displayed in Westminster Abbey!;)
 
I can't disagree with you there Stan but as a nation the Brits seem to have misinterpreted the conditions of said race and believe we should run it with our heads stuck up our arses. This whole thing is beyond a fecking farce and would be funny if it weren't likely to blight the lives of this and future generations unnecessarily.
Well the whole world is a farce, especially where neoliberalism is rife, Europe for example. It just hasn't worked for many and a different course needs to be found, carrying on the same way is complete madness. So long as we turn a blind eye to increasing poverty and homelessness in the whole of Europe we'll be fine. What did a trading block ever bring those people?
 
Cos your mates gave them the opportunity to vote on it

So they decided to vote for relegation from the Premier League to the Championship, they thought the grass was greener but it's a tough life down there and it could take many years to get that promotion that they thought would be so easy.