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The state of Guardiola | Regrets Redmond incident
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And yet the effect will be that Redmond will have more confidence because of what Pep said. You want to stop something good from happening because it's not 'proper'. Such a bad, bad way to look at things.
Pep has always been one for excentric praise in his comments, but this was bizarre. I think he's just a bid weird rather than this actually being an issue though.
Redmond is just playing down the comments like a professional. That, or he hopes to play under Guardiola one day. We'll never know what was said exactly. Pep's still a cnut though.
Bizarre just means that he has more intelligence than you.
Will it? You can predict Redmond's future and are 100% sure said improvement will be down to Peps 10 second 'chat'?
Good for you. Such a good, good way to look at things.
Will it do harm? And it is something that has a high chance to help the kid. How would you feel if you had a teacher at school who believed in you? It could have a huge effect. But Pep shouldn't do what he did because people are supposed to stay in their own lane? You are completely. We need more people who care in this world, not less.
Much ado about nothing!
This rivalry thing needs to chill out!
This rivalry thing needs to chill out!
Still a baldy cnut.
Kid? He's nearly 24.
I did have a teacher that believed in me and helped me go from school football to county football. If another teacher or coach had tried to give me advice, my teacher would have chinned him.
Such a huge insult to Pellegrino that Pep knows better. Dick.
Fair play. Bonus points for taking his opportunity to shit on The S*n.
To be fair it's hard to remember a bad thing written about pep
He seems like a genuine guy
He seems like a genuine guy
This is actually blatantly false. Zlatan and Eto'o have both done extensive interviews on how much of a coward he is. They both said he is a fantastic coach, but a coward. Manipulative, disrespectful, not things that put him in a positive light.
Any age can be a kid. All the other managers were kids to Alex Ferguson. And if he had said certain things to them, it would have meant a whole lot and helped them greatly.
The message that Pep gave was that he thinks Redmond is a good attacking player. That is all. If you think Pep wants to challenge Pellegrino's authority, you are wrong.
Still not banned yet? What does he need to do, play cock or no cock on twitter?
No it doesn't. What a silly sentence.
Not sure this does anything other than confirm initial thoughts that the guy ran onto the pitch, was aggressive and telling an opposition player how to play. The even had to point out that he was playing how his manager told him to play, and now has had to do so publicly. Again if I were Southampton boss it would all piss me off and guardiola has no right to do that, especially on the pitch in such a way.
There was a minority here suggested it had been anything more
There was a minority here suggested it had been anything more
I genuinely laughed at this statement
People need to realise the discussion in the thread wasn't so much about what he said, it was about how he said it. It's fecking odd that someone praising another individual does so by throwing their hands up in disappointment, screaming in their face and constantly walking off - only to turn back around several times. It's fecking weird. The expression on his face wasn't one of praise either, it was of frustration.
Also Pep has no fecking business trying to tell other players how they should be playing. That's undermining other managers and a fecking pathetic move tbh. Redmond will play how his manager wants him to play, the game isn't built around Pep and his goonies.
Great manager but a fecking weirdo.
Quite funny too as the same people in this thread sticking up for him would be mocking Jose had the tables been turned.
Also Pep has no fecking business trying to tell other players how they should be playing. That's undermining other managers and a fecking pathetic move tbh. Redmond will play how his manager wants him to play, the game isn't built around Pep and his goonies.
Great manager but a fecking weirdo.
Quite funny too as the same people in this thread sticking up for him would be mocking Jose had the tables been turned.
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They aren’t really the most objective examples though are they? Considering they were both jettisoned by Pep during his time there. For those two accounts there are many more that are positive.
You can’t be a professional football coach at the absolute highest level and be a coward. That he had the balls to dispense with both would suggest quite the opposite. As much as I like Zlatan he clearly couldn’t accept how that great Barcelona team functioned and that it was ultimately a low point in his career.
Redmond looking for a move to City
What a bizarre overreaction. We're a shower of mentallers in here these days. He's passionate, he was up to 90 after that finish, he went over the top. We'd be canonising him if he was pulling this shit with us and had us where he has city. The dislike of him is irrational. He's a shit loser. Which of the good ones isn't? I fecking hate Jose when we're losing.
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Which is completely understandable - but people on here berate the shite out of Jose when he's a weird cnut, in fact they berate the shit out of him when he isn't as well. The second anyone mentions anything negative about Pep though and you're crossing the line.
Managers are humans and just like as in any other walk of life if you're a cnut you're completely open to criticism. What he did was fecking odd and as a result was discussed.
You know the photo of Pep you have over your bed? Is it lifesize?
I like Pep.
Pepsi? Or Cola?
notcool
Mystery solved. Should still get a one match ban to please United's fans and make everyone whole again.
Yes, because Zlatan and Eto'o are some holy gospel when it comes to Pep. The reality is they were sold by Pep there hardly going to have anything positive to say. Why not ask the 40+ other players who were coached by him?
Redmond has come out and defended Guardiola because he’s obviously honest and wants to put the truth out there. He’s a big boy and obviously bright as he’s taken the positive out of the admittedly over-elaborate reaction from a big name coach.
It’s Guardiola’s style, he’s got an ego and narcissistic traits like a lot of great football men. I for one like to see moments such as this, I like passionate and often heated exchanges between people. Football makes you this way. At least he cares about what he sees in front of him.
The key point in all this is that Redmond isn’t bothered, he’s actually taken positives and defended Guardiola...and Pellegrino obviously isn’t bothered either, since he hasn’t made a fuss in the slightest. So really, its nothing to get worked up about. In fact it might even prove to be beneficial to Pellegrino in that Redmond may even up his game as a reaction to the intervention.
It’s Guardiola’s style, he’s got an ego and narcissistic traits like a lot of great football men. I for one like to see moments such as this, I like passionate and often heated exchanges between people. Football makes you this way. At least he cares about what he sees in front of him.
The key point in all this is that Redmond isn’t bothered, he’s actually taken positives and defended Guardiola...and Pellegrino obviously isn’t bothered either, since he hasn’t made a fuss in the slightest. So really, its nothing to get worked up about. In fact it might even prove to be beneficial to Pellegrino in that Redmond may even up his game as a reaction to the intervention.
You can't say what you've said by watching Eto and Zlatan's interviews. They are both extremely genuine in what they say, especially Eto'o who gives clear examples and explains the situation in a logical way. One example was in a game between Inter and Barca, Guardiola would not let anyone shake Eto's hand in the tunnel, but Guardiola made sure to shake his hand in front of the cameras. All of these Barca players had spent several years with Eto'o but gave him the could shoulder because of Pep.
Having the 'balls' to dispense of Eto and Zlatan says nothing about the character of Guardiola. He's the manager of the club and was allowed to mould the club into his vision, he couldnt even get rid of Eto'o straight away because he was too popular at the club, but he disrespected him several times and Eto'o still became top scorer for him. He bought Zlatan and got rid of him a year after; so much balls when you're at a club that can spend huge amounts on a striker and replace him within a year.
Eto'o and Zlatan are consummate professionals, they do not hold grudges and would not speak badly of someone out of spite.
Quite ironic that the object of our ire in here is Pep's hysterical overreaction to an opposition player. You would think we would be nodding our heads in silent approval. He'd fit right in here.
This is turning into a city forum
Pep and Eto'o and Pep and Zlatan were difficult relationships. There was plenty of disrespecting being done by all sides. As I said previously, some people just don't fit in terms of personality, and when they are also stubborn as hell, it can lead to nothing but conflict. Which is what happened.
Eto'o said to Guardiola that he was only a good player, not a very good one. Zlatan told him he had no balls and other insults even worse than that. So, neither Eto'o nor Zlatan can really play the victim card with a straight face when talking about Guardiola.
Not really! People enjoy his little digs at other managers. When he called Conte bald, it was largely considered funny and good old José being José. He gets berated by some when he throws our own players under the bus by questioning their fitness and commitment. Never for acting in a weird way that doesn't affect the club.
Not mention Eto'o also said he called Pep a nobody in training.
So what are you saying? That The Sun was telling the truth and Redmond is lying to pull Guardiola out of the shit?
Let’s face it - and I could be wrong - you made this thread in the wake of City scoring a last minute winner last night and your blood was boiling so much (and don’t get me wrong, I can understand the anger in the heat of the moment) that you thought you’d try and deflect from all that and try to throw some shit at City’s manager but now the player himself has clarified that said manager wasn’t being quite the twat you perceived him to be, he’s still a twat anyway despite the player himself claiming otherwise.
This is a good forum in the main - I wouldn’t be on here otherwise - but I swear if an equivalent thread to this appeared on a certain City forum we wouldn’t hear the last of it.
The issue is that it’s condescending and undermines the opposition manager. Pep has no right to talk about how others play with the value of squad he has at his disposal compared to most.
TBF though that was just a response from Jose. It wasn't really him going out of his way to downplay another professional. Invading a player's personal space to tell them that the way his manager is getting him to play isn't correct is wrong. I'd say the same if Jose did so too, or any other manager too.
I appreciate the funny side to the game, but nothing Pep did was humorous or in jest. It was just odd and unnecessary. When you have a team built of superstars and one of the most, if not the most expensively assembled squad in the PL's history, you're in no position to tell other managers how to play. I dislike when Jose talks about other teams parking the bus and I dislike when Pep does it too. To go out of your way to say it directly to the player makes things even worse.
Teams are allowed to play however they want, it's not their job to cater to the big team's desires.