Neymar Jr | PSG | 2017/2018 performances

He’d score 30 in the prem.

Look at how many Sanchez scores. Neymar no doubt is the superior player.
Isn't Ronnie in 07/08 the only non striker to hit 30 goals? I highly doubt Neymar would be THAT good in the prem tbh.. 15-20 would be his average
 
Isn't Ronnie in 07/08 the only non striker to hit 30 goals? I highly doubt Neymar would be THAT good in the prem tbh.. 15-20 would be his average

Salah is on 18 already.

Premier league has changed since Ronnie left. Also Neymar on his day can be as good as Ronaldo.
 
Were PSG fans booing Neymar in the PK??:lol:

Fans wanted Cavani to take it as that goal would make Cavani number one goalscorer after Zlatan I think, but selfish Neymar had to take it, god forbid someone else takes the PK.

Neymar will always be diving selfish primadona in my eyes, all the skills in the world can't change that, Ronaldinho over him any day.
 
Were PSG fans booing Neymar in the PK??:lol:
Yes they were, Cavani had the chance to become the club's top goalscorer and Neymar already had a hattrick, so a bit selfish from him.
But then again I think Neymar had never scored 4 goals in a game, so a milestone for him. And of course, Cavani will still break the record in no time.
 
I think the penalty taker should take the penalties. Unless it is a very rare situation like the last game of the season and there is only one outfield player who hasn't scored.

Cavani will of course break that record. More than likely in the next match.
 
You think he would have trouble outscoring Salah?

Okay.

Neymar would destroy this league.
He's just scored 4 in one game to take him to 19, Salah is on 18. I do think Neymar is a better player but Salah is having the season of his life. Neymar would be high up in the scoring charts every season I'm sure but I don't think he'd outscore Kane either.
 
I bet his father will use that as an excuse/rationalization in the future:lol:.
Grabbing my popcorn to watch El Chiringuito.
 
Neymar would tear this league a new arsehole. The step up is hardly as big as many people make it out to be, some of the best players this league has ever seen have come from the French League. Mahrez, Kante, Hazard etc. didn't have many problems adapting to England.

He's the second best in the World behind Messi. Phenomenal player
 
Neymar didn't tear La Liga apart last year though.
We all knew Neymar would play like this in France for a reason, his true form is somewhere inbetween.
 
Minimum 30 goals if he played for a big side in 38 games. He would obviously take FKS and PKS too. He would be the main man
 
I was wiki his goal record for Barca (basically 1 in 2, theres no way he scores over 30 league goals with inferior players imo ) and came across this

In 2010, Santos rejected a £12 million bid for him from English Premier League team West Ham United,

The birth of a meme? Feck sake.
 
He's just scored 4 in one game to take him to 19, Salah is on 18. I do think Neymar is a better player but Salah is having the season of his life. Neymar would be high up in the scoring charts every season I'm sure but I don't think he'd outscore Kane either.
Neymar played 16 games: 19 goals/13 assists. Salah played 20 games: 18 goals/6 assists. But the EPL is tougher. The Champions League is a better parameter: Salah 5 goals/ 1 assist; Neymar 6 goals/3 assists. Very similar.

Neymar is not a 9 or wide striker. He is more a 10 that can operate in the left. Its the way he plays in the nt and PSG where he is in the middle majority of the games.

I dont think he would outscore the top CFs, he is a different player.
 
You think he would have trouble outscoring Salah?

Okay.

Neymar would destroy this league.

Didn’t say he wouldn’t destroy the league. I said he isn’t really a great goal scorer because finishing is one of the weaker aspects of his game. I can’t see him getting 30 league goals. 30+ in all competition definitely. In the EPL, He would certainly torment defenders, create a host of chances, and have good scoring and assist number.
 
15 goals + 11 assists in 15 Ligue 1 games

6 goals + 3 assists in 6 CL games

Only Kane has a better minutes per goal ratio than him (84 vs 86). He's pretty much scoring, assisting and creating chances at a better rate than anyone else in the world.
 
Didn’t say he wouldn’t destroy the league. I said he isn’t really a great goal scorer because finishing is one of the weaker aspects of his game. I can’t see him getting 30 league goals. 30+ in all competition definitely. In the EPL, He would certainly torment defenders, create a host of chances, and have good scoring and assist number.
In a team like City he'd rattle off some rather impressive stats. What City do in the prem is no less than what PSG do in league 1. It's this lack of competitiveness that creates scenarios where players dominate like this statistically. There's a reason none of them can do that sort of thing on the international stage as no team really dominates in the way the really top clubs in Europe do in their leagues or even the CL. It's the worst part of the post pep era imo. His finishing may be weak but that doesn't matter all that much if you get chance after chance.
 
whoscored says it's 15/11 in 15, including today's match - https://www.whoscored.com/Players/50835/MatchStatistics/Neymar

Ligue1 is pretty shitty. Depay has there 8 goals and Balotteli 12...
Yes, i saw the Whoscored before my post; but since DBS235 said he was in 19 goals i assumed Whoscored was not couting the last game yet, this why i said 16 games not 15. But as i said the best parameter is the CL, not the French league.

I understand your opinion about Ligue 1, i dont agree with you on that but i understand. Depay is scoring but is not really playing well. And i really believe some of the best players there could do well everywhere. Neymars stats in the league and in the CL have more to do with the role he is playing. Now he takes all the freekicks, he is the first option to receive an assist, he can play in the middle, in the right, things like that. Like he does in the nt. In Barcelona he was pretty much a Dutch winger.

Also a simple way to realize the real level of this player is this: find the games that the Brazil nt with Neymar played against Argentina, Uruguay, France, Spain and see who was the best player in the pitch 90% of time.
 
Neymar's low goal tally was because his finishing was horrific last season for some reason. His all-around play was excellent, but his finishing was atrocious.

Seems it's somewhat normalized this season.

It hasn’t normalised if you look at his goal scoring record in Spain, it is easily the best it has ever been.
 
Very difficult to properly compare players when they are playing in different leagues. Plus stats can only tell us so much. Like for instance, who knows how many goals Kane would get if he was the main man at PSG? Or if Neymar is playing for us during our transitional period? I'd argue that even Chicharito would bag an insane amount of goals in Ligue 1 with the quality of teammates he would have at PSG.
 
Neymar would tear this league a new arsehole. The step up is hardly as big as many people make it out to be, some of the best players this league has ever seen have come from the French League. Mahrez, Kante, Hazard etc. didn't have many problems adapting to England.

He's the second best in the World behind Messi. Phenomenal player

Hazard has never scored as many goals in the PL as he did in his last season in France. Neymar would be great in England but there is no way he would be averaging close to a goal and an assist per game here. There is no evidence to suggest that whatsoever.
 
I think the penalty taker should take the penalties. Unless it is a very rare situation like the last game of the season and there is only one outfield player who hasn't scored.

Cavani will of course break that record. More than likely in the next match.
This. Cavani fought to take penalties and proceeded to miss. Neymar is the penalty taker.
 
Neymar lowkey has been going out of his way to entertain the fans, I haven't seen this since Ronaldinho. Of course the level of Ligue 1 helps this. (Whilst maintaining crazy productivity)

PSG fans booing him are absolute morons. Protect Cavani all you want, Neymar is the only hope you guys have of advancing quarter final mediocrity.
 
He scored 13 goals last season for Barca. I don't even know how it's possible to score 13 goals alongside Messi, Iniesta and Suarez as a world class player.
His finishing was poor for some reason and he was more of a creator than scorer. Barca's main creative outlet in fact

Isn't Ronnie in 07/08 the only non striker to hit 30 goals? I highly doubt Neymar would be THAT good in the prem tbh.. 15-20 would be his average
Cris was very much a striker that season

Neymar on a top PL team would score around 20 goals a season in the league if he were either the primary or second goal-threat of the team. He's not and probably never will be a 50 goals a season player though. Might get to 40 in a good year on a team like City or Liverpool
 
His finishing isn't perfect this season but he scored already 3/4 penalties and 2/3 freekicks despite sharing with Cavani, Alves and Di Maria to make up for it.

The stats aren't all about L1. PSG also broke the record of goals scored in the CL group stages this season.
 
Celtic and Anderlecht aren't much better tbh.
Saying CL like its this set standard across the board is a bit misleading.
 
Celtic and Anderlecht don't usually get dispatched like they were against Paris this season and offered a good fight against Bayern.
 
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You don't see much of Celtic then!
Neymar et all are wonderful going forward, Im just weary of setting these 2 teams up as a higher standard than French football just to prove a point.
 
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You don't see much of Celtic then!
Neymar et all are wonderful going forward, Im just weary of setting these 2 teams up as a higher standard than French football just to prove a point.
I don't set them at a higher standard. Just saying there's been plenty of CL groups in history no stronger than this one yet noone ever scored as many goals as PSG this season.

The free scoring nature of PSG this season has little to do with the quality of L1.
 
2nd best player in thr World right now.
French league might be meh, but he clearly has the ability to show up against tough opponents.

See the Barca - PSG comeback game last year.
 
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But not many sides go in for the kill like PSG because they constantly have something to prove imo.
Its almost like they know what verybody thinks so sets out to destroy sides to prove a point when other sides would ease off. Bayern v Celtic is a case in point. Celtic were as bad that night as they were v you lot.
Hell Utd and City are examples of this, all of our big wins came at the start of the season when we both set out to make a statement. Now wins matter so you don't see those 90 minutes of constant pressure on downed opponents.
PSG do and all credit to them.
 
I don't set them at a higher standard. Just saying there's been plenty of CL groups in history no stronger than this one yet noone ever scored as many goals as PSG this season.

The free scoring nature of PSG this season has little to do with the quality of L1.

'Cos obviously smashing Celtic and Anderlecht proves that, right? Because they're two teams of enormous quality, obviously... :rolleyes:

I'm not denying PSG are a very good side, one of the best in Europe, however Ligue 1 is nowhere near the likes of the PL or La Liga in terms of overall quality and that much is blatantly obvious.

I get that sometimes you have the odd player who comes over and performs better in a different league, because they're in a better side or the style of football suits them more (Salah for example scoring more now than in Serie A), but the number of players that were bang average in the PL at best that are doing great in Ligue 1 really paints a picture (Balotelli, Thauvin, Depay, N'Jie, Gradel, Amavi etc).

Not a slight on PSG, as I said a top side who are doing what they need to do and you can only beat what's in front of you, but the league quality is piss poor.
 
Hazard has never scored as many goals in the PL as he did in his last season in France. Neymar would be great in England but there is no way he would be averaging close to a goal and an assist per game here. There is no evidence to suggest that whatsoever.

And yet Martial had no issues racking up 17 goals in his debut season in England, despite moving to left wing in the latter half of that season.
 
And yet Martial had no issues racking up 17 goals in his debut season in England, despite moving to left wing in the latter half of that season.

*11 goals. Why are you including non-league goals when we are talking about a league comparison? So he scored 2 more league goals...

1. He was a better player during 15/16 than he was during 14/15.
2. He was United's #1 attacking player and they tried to get the ball to him as much as possible.
3. He played 44% more minutes in the league in 15/16 than he did in 14/15.

Nice try though.
 
And yet Martial had no issues racking up 17 goals in his debut season in England, despite moving to left wing in the latter half of that season.

His goal scoring rate was similar in his first season in the PL to his last season in France. He was 18, 19 years old in those seasons so it is hard to compare as you expect the player to significantly develop each year at that age.

Hazard scored more goals in France as a youngster than he ever has in England in his prime years.
 
I don't set them at a higher standard. Just saying there's been plenty of CL groups in history no stronger than this one yet noone ever scored as many goals as PSG this season.

The free scoring nature of PSG this season has little to do with the quality of L1.

PSG are a great of a team right now, but saying they performances has little t do with the quality of the league makes little to no sense at all.