That tackle was just late. It wasn’t ugly, it wasn’t a leg-breaker, can’t be compared at all.
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That tackle was just late. It wasn’t ugly, it wasn’t a leg-breaker, can’t be compared at all.
My children look like Leroy Sane, and if Bristol City fans said anything racist to him, then I would back him and his celebration up all day long. But am yet to read anything yet that says there was any racist element. Only about his mother "having what women have."
Do you seriously think that they would have singled out his mother for comment if she was not married to a black man?
The comments were actually racially motivated rather than racist, that's my bad.
By the way do you know many women who have a "cock and two bollocks"?
Haven't heard the effin song. Anyway, off to lunch to see my African wife.
These clubs are doing nothing Madrid hasn't done before. Harsh to blame them for all the price inflation when previously the same club was responsible for the majority of the most expensive transfers ever. The more money clubs have, the more gets spent, that's why we spend so much cause we have it. In fact the biggest reason why we spend so much is because of what we've seen on the pitch post Sir Alex. Pre the Neymar deal you can't say that the Sugah daddy clubs had been setting the bar really high in terms of how much a single player can cost.
Ay least there are journalists outside Pep's arse
No I mean Bony (£28m), Navas (£18m), Jovetic(£18m), Demichilis (£3.5m), Fernando(£12m), Mangala(£32m), Zucilin(£2.5m) - Thats £116m on very average footballers, 2 of whom actually contributed anything (Navas and MDM who cost less than 1/5th combined).
But according to some they are divers and roll around. Those tackles are all in the last 6 weeks. Pep is right to be furious.
What a fecking tackle on Sane ffs
. Didn't hear anything about it, is he ok?
Looks like August to me also
That Bournemouth one isn't from December, ffs!
Wanna bet? Look at the supporters, main stand all City, its the Etihad.
https://www.mancity.com/citytv/match highlights/2017/december/man city v bournemouth highlights short - Heres City v B'Mouth from mid December match highlights.
What a fecking tactle on Sane ffs
Pep said 2 weeks to a month,given his tendency to over exaggerate I'd say 1-2 weeks.
this is a trivial point to discuss i concede, but the sides of the pitch, the colours of the stands, the sunshine and the fact that jesus didn't play in december seem to suggest you're wrong.
in fact its so blatantly not from december i can't believe you're arguing it. well until i see you're a city fan.
Indeed, turns out you are correct, I'm only going off what I found on the original forum I lifted it from. Man I love little arguments but given a quick google I think you've won this one.
In that case he's probably back training already. KDB lost the majority of his leg and was back playing the next match. Outstanding medical achievements going on over at the Etihad.
but it added more weight to the victim complex argument you city fans are nurturing so well.
i don't think anybody had. in fact ronaldo in 2009, bale and pogba nearly a decade later were the only outliers. Reals galactic policy was a one off, but I will absolutely argue that the volume of money spent that turned clubs from also rans or nobodies to title winners and champions league winners contributed massively to extra spending by all, and now we're in the early days of seeing the effect of what they can do to individual transfer fees also.
There is no victim complex at all, I also included my opinion on Yeovil trying to hurt Sanchez once I remembered it. It's not a City thing, as I said. It's just we've been on the receiving end of one every game because teams are trying to show us what it like to play in England (while playing in Wales). If you can't beat them kick them, if you can't see that then I give up. Forget about that one and show me another team on the receiving end of 5 of them in the last month.
Anyone who watched the game yesterday knew what was going to happen to Sane before it happened, my ten year old son beside me even said "he's going to break his leg if Sane doesn't run too fast for him".
What you said is all true but it's ironic that fans who cheered players like De Jong, Barry talks about tackles now because they changed their style of play.
Can't speak for everyone but I left a city forum over the amount of shite I got for calling De Jong a disgrace to football (which I believe anyone who "intentioally" hurts anyone is) I also called Aguero's many tackles on Luiz a disgrace and Luiz many on Aguero. Can't say I've ever seen anyone praise the Barry tackle either unless it was some of the muppets on BM which I don't check very often.
You're late we've already established that.
Fair enough but I'm sure De Jong and Barry were popular players when they played for city.
You claimed 20 minutes ago it was the Etihad so....
So you were still late my friend as Ser already showed me where I was wrong.
I loved Barry, I won't lie, but that doesn't mean some of his tackles were defendable.
I never like De Jong even though he was decent at what he did. I also think most City fans didn't take to De Jong bar a little crew who love cnuts because he openly stated he saw City as a stepping stone to bigger things (delighted he ended up in the MLS and too slow to actually be able to kick anyone).
Other than Mangala, the rest were short-term plugs for a specific problem.
Pep's got his own list with Nolito (£18m), Claudio Bravo (£18m), Danilo (£30m) soon to be Stones (£50m) etc.
Honestly at least back up those specific problems.
Say what, Bony was a short term plug for what, because he sold Dzeko (one of the best goalscorers in Europe to get him instead.)
Jovetic was 4th choice striker so what hole did he plug and what specific problem did he solve?
Zucilini solved a hole in what our reserves bench?
Fernando, what hole did he fill?
MDM was rushed in and played a lot as I said, a poor player who was rushed in and did an acceptable job given his ability.
Navas did what? He plugged a hole alright (for the opposition),by constantly kicking the ball off the legs of the first man when in good positions. He was a hard worker (and I like Navas) but benched a far more talented player who happened to be a lazy cnut (Nasri).
Except Danilo will play alot, Stones is not a problem and was in the CL team of the group stage (unlike better world class CB's like Bailly), Bravo has looked ok this season (and while I still have him in the flop category) plus he made £12m back on Nolito (a total flop).
If you are really trying to argue that Pelligrini's transfer record at City is even comparable to Pep's I give up. Pelligrini took a team who were top 2 was it 4 seasons in a row and turned them into a team struggling for 4th, thats a fact.
Pep has rebuilt a 4th place one into champions elect.
Pellegrini won the PL, he's responsible for half your titles so you should be a lil more grateful.
Dzeko wanted to leave (can't blame him), and Aguero got injured so you were on the market for a striker - and got rinsed as a result
Jovetic was a decent striker, he got paid too much money, lost his hunger. I thought he was scouted by Mancini but whatevs
Who's Zucilini? I'm not bringing up nothing players for Pep either (Marlos Moreno, Rulli etc)
Fernanrdo was back up to Yaya
MDM was a specific plug in defense - slow as feck - but Kompany is a crock so he played a lot
Navas couldn't fit into the PL. Reminded me of Jose Antonio Reyes - tricky Spanish winger that looks good in Andalucia and for the national team, but can't fit into the PL
Then he bought Fernandinho, Sterling, KDB and Otamendi who are mainstays in the current team.
Anyways, I particularly care about either. I just find the narrative that Pep took a midtable team and fixed - ludicrous.
In the dutch news right now that they just bought Laporte for 65 mill euros?
Madrid has been pushing the boundaries of the prices of individual players for a long time. We ourselves aren't all that innocent given how many time's we broke the national record. All of that contributed to the inflation that we see. The Neymar deal has pushed things to the next level, but honestly Madrid broke the record twice in one window in 09 which is absurd. A grand total of one CL has gone to the Sugar Daddies and that by extreme luck too. PSG haven't been better than the real big boys and neither have City and they're a few years in now.
Trying to build in this era of access money is difficult without the budget to do so, it's actually borderline impossible. The clubs have lots of money and maybe its a good thing that players are more expensive as this means that a club wouldn't be able to go out and get 7 world class players in a window and can only get 2. You say Spurs, Pool and Arsenal would've been competing with us but honestly how? Any time Spurs have a world class player Madrid rubs their hands, every time Arsenal has a world class player, Barca rubs their hands ditto with Pool. Those are traditional super powers that regularly take apart up coming competition. Bayern took it upon themselves to do away with Dortmund. With how much money there is in the game today at the very top level, doing things right is becoming a more difficult option by the season.
We're Man United, we'll always be at the top of the football chain. Whether there are Sugah Daddies or not it's irrelevant cause as we've seen in recent years we can pretty much match anyone. I personally don't see the point of us complaining about money when we've led the money league as many times as we have.
Why are they signing Laporte? Don’t really get it. He’s surely going to start so where does that leave Otamendi and Stones? They going back to a back 3?
I think he will get eased in this season as in the summer there is a WC so the team won't train too much together, then from next season if these 3 will play the 2/3 of the games (as Kompany is hardly guaranteed to be fit), then it's still ~40 games, so quite enough.
£56m? I thought they were broke?
Their center backs aren't great so it's a good signing for them tbh. Otamendi is having a good season, while Stones is inconsistent, but I don't think it's an ideal Pep center back partnership so he's improving on them with Laporte. Plus considering they have basically no decent depth there, this helps them.
Found some spare change down the back of the sofa and decided to pay Laporte's release clause with it.
I don't think that's a fair reflection on what happened. Pelligrini won the league, came second and may well have won the league again if the players didn't stop playing for him after he was told in December he was fired. He would have surely done better than 4th otherwise.
Saying Pep 'rebuild a 4th place team' when you consider those circumstances is very misleading.
We only have one truly reliable CB in Otamendi. Kompany is injury prone, Stones is inconsistent, Mangala is simply not good enough. We also have problems at LB. Laporte gives us the option to go to a back three as you suggest, can fill in at LB but that's unlikely, but most importantly he should be good enough to come straight into the side and improve our defence. Takes the pressure off Stones as well who's got to pretty much play every game when he's fit.
Well, their current backline is enough to win the league, but they want more quality like Laporte and Hazard (?) to win the Champions League and do it consistently I suppose. Can't fault their ambition.
Do you lot reckon Pep will stay longer than 3 years?
I do personally, only because I think he’ll see the squad still has potential to improve given the age of some of our squad. Ederson, Mendy, Stones, B.Silva, Sane, Sterling, Jesus all under 25. Plus still looking at adding Laporte and Fred who are also in that bracket too. I suspect he’ll stay another season on top. I certainly don’t see it being years and years though.