Premier League Gameweek 26 (3rd - 5th February 2018)

Re Lamela being "offside". Looks like his arm is past the last defender, you can't score with your arm so he's not offside.

But that is Anfield so yeah, probably should have been given.
 
Summit said:
If Arsenal beat Spurs and we do the business next weekend it'll be 10 points above that horrible 5th place.
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Wow.

Is Arsenal hosting Spurs or the other way round?

I hope Miki plays the best game of his entire career that day. :)
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Alright buddy. It’s quite clear that fans don’t know how to interpret the rules when you hear the pros talking about it. I tend to prefer the opinion of a professional than some arrogant bloke on the internet.
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Oh the hypocrisy.

But at least point me to some written source that says when a defender touches the ball, a new phase of play begins. The actual laws of the game do not say that so you must have access to some other stuff.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
So he’s saying the same thing as the officials today and Gallagher?
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Yes, and he's full of shit. Because the laws of the game, as they are written, say that a player can be offside from a ball that's deliberately saved by an opponent.

My point is that the "An ex-ref said so so he's right" argument is bollocks, and the proof is the hundreds of wrong calls that we see every season.
 
To think Poch could hardly speak a word of English when he arrived in England, fair play to him!
 
They say about all these offsides for spurs but ignore the fact Salah was for Liverpool's second?
 
Anustart89 said:
Yes, and he's full of shit. Because the laws of the game, as they are written, say that a player can be offside from a ball that's deliberately saved by an opponent.

My point is that the "An ex-ref said so so he's right" argument is bollocks, and the proof is the hundreds of wrong calls that we see every season.
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So the officials today, Gallagher and your mate there, all professional refs, or ex professional, at the top level of the game, don’t know how to interpret the rules but you and that arrogant bloke off the internet do?
 
Grylte said:
All 3 very good on their own, but maybe a bit selfish all of them?
I'm sure they would make it work somehow, if they can afford it.



Kane was in offside when Alli passed the ball, if it touched a Liverpool player on the way, doesn't matter.
So it should honestly have been offside. I always want decisions to go against pool, so i'm happy anyway :lol:
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I completely agree. I just find it really strange that the pen was still given, because the linesman clearly hasn't missed what happened, but instead gave the wrong call because he's misinterpreting the rules which is questionable for a supposed top level official. Unless its us that are misinterpreting the rules, which is certainly possible. :lol:
 
Hope the assistant ref gets a police escort out of Liverpool. Bet he's not very popular there right now.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
So the officials today, Gallagher and your mate there, all professional refs, or ex professional, at the top level of the game, don’t know how to interpret the rules but you and that arrogant bloke off the internet do?
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Do you think Nani should have been sent off against Real Madrid?
 
RedPed said:
To think Poch could hardly speak a word of English when he arrived in England, fair play to him!
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He's been here more than 5 years. Also, he could speak English (I know someone who worked and still works at Southampton), he pretended it was much worse than it actually was to avoid answering questions! Genius move!
 
that 2nd penalty was interesting. there´s one angle where you would say clear penalty and then the opposite angle where it looks like van Dijk didn´t even touch him.
 
There is noway it was offised. Dunno where that pic has been pulled from above, but I have found the real one.
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The first pen/offisde thing.

I am not sure what the laws are, so I cant say if the refs got it wrong or not, but I dont think the defender would have rushed to try and clear it if there was no Spurs player around him. The keeper might have given him a call, he might have taken a touch.. who knows.

The player was aware of Kane's presence and tried to clear it, sliced it and Kane got in. I think if Kane was offisde at that point, he was involved enough to stop the play.

But they have changed the rules from being offside, to being involved to how involved a player is in different phases. I have no idea how the refs have been asked to interpret it.
 
GM K said:
Wow.

Is Arsenal hosting Spurs or the other way round?

I hope Miki plays the best game of his entire career that day. :)
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If arsenal beat spurs.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
So the officials today, Gallagher and your mate there, all professional refs, or ex professional, at the top level of the game, don’t know how to interpret the rules but you and that arrogant bloke off the internet do?
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Yeah, I bet you agree with all of the ex-players opinions too and shut your gob given you were not one yourself.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
So the officials today, Gallagher and your mate there, all professional refs, or ex professional, at the top level of the game, don’t know how to interpret the rules but you and that arrogant bloke off the internet do?
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Correct.

This is from FIFA's official rule book.
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Tell me how this situation does not compare to the one today?
 
Don't the Liverpool fans run a very good moaning twitter-fest most of the time..

Hope they make a big scene about the Kane dive and try to get him banned rightfully..
 
Rafateria said:
And you are clearly WRONG.

Just in case you are unsure. Should have been a FK to VvD for Lamela running into him !
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We've had run ins on here, but you're 100% right. Ridiculous that some on here are using a still image after Lamela jumped into him as some sort of proof of contact.
 
Kostur said:
Yeah, I bet you agree with all of the ex-players opinions too and shut your gob given you were not one yourself.
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Yeah, it's a bit weird. Suddenly the referees, who are routinely dismissed as terrible and having no clue, are unquestionable and infallible. If a referee says so, it must be so! Odd. We rarely see this attitude regarding them...
 
Rafateria said:
Just in case you are unsure. Should have been a FK to VvD for Lamela running into him !
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But wait, shouldn't it have been offside? How could it have been a free kick to vvd, if it was offside first? I'm confused...
 
In that offside picture a Liverpool defender is actually fouling the 'offside' Tottenham player by holding his arms around his ribs/chest :lol:
 
@Anustart89
Kane is standing still, he doesn't move towards the ball or make a ruh before the ball is played.
Problem solved.
 
Dave89 said:
We've had run ins on here, but you're 100% right. Ridiculous that some on here are using a still image after Lamela jumped into him as some sort of proof of contact.
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Because VVD kicked him, probably. Just a guess.
 
As Brian Clough said ''If any one of my players isn’t interfering with play, they’re not getting paid."

The offside rule is an ass quite simply Kane is offside and if he is not stood offside then Lovern does not need to play at the ball.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
How some of you don't see that van dijk kicked lamela ?
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Oh come on. VVD had his eyes firmly on the ball, wanted to kick it, Lamela jumped right in front of him, VVD tried to pull back his kick, Lamla goes down like he has been hit with a sledge hammer. How was that a penalty? I have watched it again a few times.
 
Nick7 said:
Because VVD kicked him, probably. Just a guess.
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He contorted his foot to avoid the player jumping into his foot (and making no attempt to get the ball). Don't get me wrong, I think it's bloody hilarious and I'm glad the scouse dropped points, but let's call it as it is.
 
cyberman said:
@Anustart89
Kane is standing still, he doesn't move towards the ball or make a ruh before the ball is played.
Problem solved.
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He's standing about a foot behind him. You seriously don't think Kane being there had an influence on Lovren's decision to play the ball in the way he did?
 
GM K said:
Oh come on. VVD had his eyes firmly on the ball, wanted to kick it, Lamela jumped right in front of him, VVD tried to pull back his kick, Lamla goes down like he has been hit with a sledge hammer. How was that a penalty? I have watched it again a few times.
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VVD doesnt have the ball under control. Lamela gets in between and was goal side (away from it, but facing the goal). If Lamela controls it, he can either have a shot or cross it across. VVD kicks him. Lino gives a penalty.

What is the problem? No one is saying VVD intentionally kicked Lamela in the calf with his boot. If anyone was suggesting that, they'd be asking for VVD to be sent off as well. The ball was loose, and VVD fouled Lamela. Simple.
 
cyberman said:
@Anustart89
Kane is standing still, he doesn't move towards the ball or make a ruh before the ball is played.
Problem solved.
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His position and movement towards the goal could be construed as 'any gesture or movement which deceives or distracts player (B)' (emphasis mine). His offside position clearly forces the sliced clearance from Lovren..

But even if that's not enough, explain how this doesn't apply. From the next section on gaining an advantage

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