4bars
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Buddy the world ain't a fair place. Anybody born in privilege will never willingly surrender it and anyone born outside of it will strive to get there and then fight to protect it. The same way I hold absolutely nothing against the people who migrate to better their lives, I also hold nothing against the people who want to protect the privilege they are born in. It's the way of life.
There is solid evidence that migration (at least in the UK's case) is good for the economy, but equally there's evidence that it creates pressure on the incomes of the lowest skilled people. The "lazy or unprepared" as you decided to call them, as if that's a fair description on anyone caught at the bottom. And those people have every right to request the protection from their Government because that Government is there to work for the betterment of the lives of its people. Not all the people of the world. Its mission is not world fairness.
We don't live in some sort of meritocratic utopia up in the clouds where the Angels sing and the Cherubs play. Humans neither act rationally, nor care for fairness a lot of the times. If that makes you angry, be prepared to be angry for the rest of your life.
Well, that is were you differ. You laugh at the none priviledged once, I laugh at the priviledge ones that thinks that are the big boys and then they whine when the none priviledge ones "steals their jobs" .
I have neither anything against protecting your interests, but going against the immigration the way is done, is completely wrong and it goes against the interests of the ones that whines. The immigration is used as a weapon to blame all of the problems of the economy when is the economy. The rich wants that kind of immigration and they don't have any interest in stopping it. But is the perfect target because they can't defend themselves.
If you want to tackle immigration what you do? pursue an uncontrolable source like desperate people, that you can deport but someone will come? or you should pursue the companies that hires them? companies that can't go anywhere (because they are not multinationals), you know where to find them and easy to control?
If you control the companies, they don't hire, immigrants wont come at that much numbers illegally. But no, the economy needs these people and they will never go against they own companies.
Then you say that immigration put stress in the economy, no doubt, like any big phenomena that affects the economy, puts stress in the economy, but there are pros and cons, and if you want some benefits, you need to invest and have some costs. But as you said, immigration is beneficial for any economy overall, then we can go at any particular case and some would be fecked and others been benefited big time.
The lazy or unprepared that they are caught in the bottom are fairly way better than the ones that they leave their homes because they are caught in wars or they are starving and they risk their lives, some of them 2/3 years, to cross half a continent in the worse conditions, dealing with mafias ans basically risking their life and the few money they have to try a better life. So yeah, locals can cry me a river of how unfair life is and how caught int the bottom they are. They have every right to ask for protection from the government, but they are requesting the wrong protection with immigration and basically they are requesting help to the ones that fecked them over and over and make them believe that immigration is the problem.
Last sentence is pedantic, patronizing and basically say a lot about you. And yes, I will be always angry the way things work in this world and I am more than consistent that mostly will never change. Now is up to you if you want (probably you find it great the way things work) to change it or not despite how you think things are, because if we don't fight for it, things would be even worse