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It's not about 3D printed guns, it's about 3D printed guns being sold to the public. Quite a few issues may arise out of that.

The whole point of them is that anyone can make one, no? If not, what they hell is the point?
 
The whole point of them is that anyone can make one, no? If not, what they hell is the point?

The NRA are far less excited about everyone's right to bear arms when they're not profiting from the gun sales.
 
The whole point of them is that anyone can make one, no? If not, what they hell is the point?

There may be requirements around the sale of them, that's the thing that Trump is talking about.

Aside from the gun show loophole, the sale of firearms is pretty regulated in the US. This is a different issue from the availability of the blueprints.
 
Isn't firing a 3D printed gun a bit of a gamble anyway? Might not work as intended...
 
There may be requirements around the sale of them, that's the thing that Trump is talking about.

Aside from the gun show loophole, the sale of firearms is pretty regulated in the US. This is a different issue from the availability of the blueprints.

But anyone with a 3D printer can now print a gun with zero regulation.

The only aspect they seem arsed about is the fact that the gun industry aren't profiting from it.
 
But anyone with a 3D printer can now print a gun with zero regulation.

The only aspect they seem arsed about is the fact that the gun industry aren't profiting from it.

That's your own projection, methinks. The gun industry wouldn't want to be anywhere near a product that could blow up in your hand after a few rounds.
 
That's your own projection, methinks. The gun industry wouldn't want to be anywhere near a product that could blow up in your hand after a few rounds.

What's the rationale behind Trump's flip from supporting the idea to now being against them being sold?

I'm not ruling out me failing to understand something here.
 
What's the rationale behind Trump's flip from supporting the idea to now being against them being sold?

I'm not ruling out me failing to understand something here.

There's a whole lot of legal liability there and, rather ironically, a huge public safety concern (:lol:).

He can still support individual access to them but be against unregulated sale and distribution of them.

Also, poor people can't afford 3D printers.
 
That's your own projection, methinks. The gun industry wouldn't want to be anywhere near a product that could blow up in your hand after a few rounds.

They'd want nothing to do with it but not because of any safety concerns. These feckers want to arm teachers and children in schools so safety is far from the top of their priority tree.

3D printing will continue to improve with regards quality and spec. Their issue is more with the idea that people buying their own materials and printing their own products removes them and their members as the middle men along with the premiums they currently charge on their products.

It won't only be the gun crowd, this is going to be widespread as this tech develops further and Johnny Public starts printing his own products at home. Expect way more government regulation, investigation and scaremongering (actual scaremongering, not the Brexit red herring) about things like food, tech equipment and clothing as lobbyists start to see their profits drop and start bullying their pet politicians to remember where their bread is buttered.
 
They'd want nothing to do with it but not because of any safety concerns. These feckers want to arm teachers and children in schools so safety is far from the top of their priority tree.

3D printing will continue to improve with regards quality and spec. Their issue is more with the idea that people buying their own materials and printing their own products removes them and their members as the middle men along with the premiums they currently charge on their products.

It won't only be the gun crowd, this is going to be widespread as this tech develops further and Johnny Public starts printing his own products at home. Expect way more government regulation, investigation and scaremongering (actual scaremongering, not the Brexit red herring) about things like food, tech equipment and clothing as lobbyists start to see their profits drop and start bullying their pet politicians to remember where their bread is buttered.

You misinterpret my point. They don't want the legal liability of being involved with a limited use product. I have a S&W revolver that was made in 1982. It's considered rather young by some standards.

To take on your and Nick's point, they still aren't going to be concerned. For now, these things are a novelty and the ability and saturation of capable 3D printers is next to nil. American gun nuts like their guns made of steel or aluminum (mostly...we won't talk about Glock).

Reliability is the biggest obstacle for 3D guns as everyone in the US owns them for self defense. You are not going to trust you life to a piece of plastic that could blow up in your hand.
 
There may be requirements around the sale of them, that's the thing that Trump is talking about.

Aside from the gun show loophole, the sale of firearms is pretty regulated in the US. This is a different issue from the availability of the blueprints.

The "gun show loophole" is really a private seller loophole between any two citizens (that only sometimes take place at gun shows). Its impossible to track how common this is but there are many networks in place already that turn legally bought guns and sell them down the chain. I could drive right now and buy a gun off the streets with no background check that probably went through a dozen owners from legally bought before finding its way to the street. This private seller loophole is massive (far more than just gun shows) and its how a lot of black market gun selling occurs.

Also the only really effective 3d printed guns are the ones that incorporate metal parts (and thus won't get past security checks). Good info here:
https://3dprint.com/139537/3d-printed-guns/
 
The "gun show loophole" is really a private seller loophole between any two citizens (that only sometimes take place at gun shows). Its impossible to track how common this is but there are many networks in place already that turn legally bought guns and sell them down the chain. I could drive right now and buy a gun off the streets with no background check that probably went through a dozen owners from legally bought before finding its way to the street. This private seller loophole is massive (far more than just gun shows) and its how a lot of black market gun selling occurs.

Also the only really effective 3d printed guns are the ones that incorporate metal parts (and thus won't get past security checks). Good info here:
https://3dprint.com/139537/3d-printed-guns/

Yes. I didn't put quotes around gun show loophole but consider it as the all encompassing colloquialism.

People won't trust any gun that they can't prove to be reliable over 1000s of rounds. The big manufacturers aren't sweating about this yet (they have larger concerns at the moment).
 
Yes. I didn't put quotes around gun show loophole but consider it as the all encompassing colloquialism.

People won't trust any gun that they can't prove to be reliable over 1000s of rounds. The big manufacturers aren't sweating about this yet (they have larger concerns at the moment).

Yeah I think its mostly a scare thing. Sadly I do expect to hear some story soon about some clueless dumbass who shots his hand off trying to be cool.
 


I really can’t wrap my head around these rallies. This is hundreds of thousands of people from all over a very developed country actually buying(!) tickets to get to see the President speak. And a President so insecure he can’t help himself but to do it again and again so he can hear the masses boo when he tells them to and to hear them all laugh at his jokes. Imagine Macron, May or Merkel do something similar. Yeah, I can’t either. It’s absurd.
 
I really can’t wrap my head around these rallies. This is hundreds of thousands of people from all over a very developed country actually buying(!) tickets to get to see the President speak. And a President so insecure he can’t help himself but to do it again and again so he can hear the masses boo when he tells them to and to hear them all laugh at his jokes. Imagine Macron, May or Merkel do something similar. Yeah, I can’t either. It’s absurd.
It's not like he has anything better to do... like, let's say, running the country for example... :wenger:
 
People at the rally holding Qanon/Seth rich signs and wearing Qanon clothing :rolleyes:

Quite bizarre and alarming to see the craze regarding this anonymous 4chan user grow in recent months.
 
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